I was just watching Spider Man on DVD again, and as I am prone to do when news paper articles are on screen, I pause and zoom in and pan back and forth and read the newspaper article. When Norman Osborn is holding up the news paper with the "is this the end of Norman Osborn" headline, in one of the paragraphs it talks about "So what happens to Norman Osborn if OsCorp loses its defense contract for the 'Super Soldier?" And the article goes on to talk about Osborn's involvement in the Super Soldier project, which we all know was responsible for creating Captain America.

Also, accoring to the article, Norman was only married once, and to a woman named Caroline Mekker (or Medder...the slight pixelation of the letters makes it kind of hard to read). Is that a name from the comics?

I don't remember a Mekker or Medder from the comics nor do I remember Norman's wife. Could just be my bad memory though.

No, Osborn did not create Captain America... As I recall that Captain America was created by Government and designed for WWII against Germany's "super-solider." I could be wrong, but Osborn is not responsible for that.

Right. Capt America was created by the US govt to fight the Nazi's in WWII. He's already an old man in the time of Spiderman. The 'Super Soldier' research they are talking about in the paper is what makes Osborn the Green Goblin.

In the comics, Captain America was put in hibernation a la Austin Powers, which is why he's not a geezer in the later books. Either way, Osborne had nothing to do with his creation.

And in the comics Spider Man had to create webshooters, they weren't organic from his body. And your point would be...? See, all I was doing was pointing out something in the MOVIE, not stating comic book trivia.

But you make reference to comic book trivia by assuming Oscorp created the super soldier serum for Capt. America?

Does anybody read the first post of a thread before they reply? I was talking about a newspaper article that appears in the movie. I paused the DVD and read the article. For more details, read the first post this time.

I think as others have mentioned, the "super soldier" program mentioned in the article in the movie appears to be the one he was working on that caused his transformation to the Goblin, so I don't think there's a link to Captain America there.

for someone getting defensive and really adding 1 and 1 to make 15, you really are acting up. the "Super Solider" project Oscorps was working on is not the same one that caused the creation of Capt. America. You are really making a big assumption with this theory. Even calling it Captain america's "cameo" seems like an awfully big stretch unless you provide some screen caps with the name Steve rogers in the article then you really shouldn't claim it is any sort of Capt. cameo.

Speaking of Cap, what studio has grabbed up the rights to the character (with the recent success of Marvel movies, I'm assuming someone has). And lets just forget about the previous CA film.

I've always thought Spielberg could make a really awesome Captain America flick. The ultimate nazi killing movie!

Well the trivia track of the Spider-Man reveals that the use of the term "super soldier" was a contious reference to Captain America.

So calhoun07 isn't really all that off base as far as the film is concerned. It's not like the comic's continuity is cannon for the film's continuity.

So, since "The Untouchables" does not historically fit with the Czarist massacre at Odessa the baby carriage-staircase scene was in no way an homage to "Battleship Potemkin"'s Odessa steps scene?

Or since "THX-1138" took place on Earth in the future, the droids and ships with these letters or numbers in the Star Wars movies are not hidden references to that other Lucas creation?

I agree, it may have been a passing reference/homage to another comic hero, they borrowed the name of the project from another comic...

I wasn't defensive. I just saw four replies to my post, and none of them even bothered to reply to my post. That's a pet peeve, not being defensive.

I thought I would just post a bit of trivia, which I thought would be for fun. And why would you assume from the thread title that there is an actual cameo in the movie? That's why I put the word cameo in quotes. It's not to be taken literally. I just figured the movie makers decided to put that in there as a homage to Captain America. I doubt it will even tie into Captain America. If they do a Captain America movie and it turns out he is created in the 21st century by OsCorp scientists, then too many fans will be severely disappointed. It's just a sly little refrence in a great movie that I thought was kind of amusing.

So, speaking of a Captain America movie, it would be awesome if Steven Spielberg would direct a feature film. Start him out in WW2 with some kick ass footage then bring him into todays world to fight terrorism. It could work! But I would only be completely satisfied if we got to see ALL the Avengers who originally discovered his body, and would that even be possible? Or do the different characters belong to different studios?

then change Cameo to "Reference", "homage", "mentioned", "tribute" or "hint". All describe what you were trying to convey, but "Cameo" is to strong of a word to describe this. In really implies nothing less then Captain America's pressence being there in the film in one shape or form. if the paper said his name then it would be decent, but there is nothing even remotely close to showing proof that this is a reference to Capt. America. It's like looking at a skull and cross bones in Pirates and saying "Oh, that's disney's homage to the upcoming Punisher film". the just don't go together and have no proof of going together at all. It really doesn't even look like a far off chance tip of the hat.

as for rights. the character rights are all over the place. It will be very tough to make cross overs and other crap like that. lets see how they handle it.

Wow - I'm wondering if its necessary for anyone to get confrontational in this thread. Calhoun07 said he paused a scene and read a possible reference to Captain America in a newspaper, people. He didn't say he paused it and saw a naked picture of your mother.

Anyways, maybe it IS a homage. Maybe in the "movie world" of Spider-Man (an alternate universe to the "comic book world" of Spider-Man), the super soldier project has been continuing since World War II. Norman Osborn may not be old enough to have been directly involved back then, but maybe he is involved in it now.

The important question that others have raised is, when do we get to see a genuine fan-faithful Captain America movie?

As one of the 4 posters I'd have to say you are incorrect. I believe all of us read the original post and were replying to what it asserted. We just happened to disagree with it.

So, if you're writing an email to your boss and you put in there: Hey Bob, you are an "incompetent retard." You assume that he really won't think you're calling him an incompetent retard? Homage, tribute, etc. would have made much more sense in this case.

The use of the words "super soldier" are an homage at most, but I even doubt that. I'm betting that whoever wrote the copy on that newspaper prop had no idea that Captain America, another Marvel character, was a "super soldier." It is most definitely not suggesting that OsCorp had anything to do with creating Captain America.

They already made a Captian America movie in the last 10-15 years.

since you guys seem to know your captain america...

i was watching x-men:evolution last night, and it was all about how wolverine worked with captain america back in world war 2... is this something from the comics?

Artisan had Captain America's film rights, last I heard. His was the biggest name in a film deal that included rights to a lot of smaller characters like Iron Fist and Werewolf by Night.

I am not a comic fan, have read a few but that is about it, but I know that at one point

I don't know, Artisan also has Ghost Rider, I believe. I'd consider that a bigger property in terms of quality of movie that can be made.

Sorry if I offended any of the first four people to respond, but the threads I read were correcting what I wrote according to what is in the comic books. I wasn't making a comment about Captain America in the comics, just an apparent reference to him in Spider Man. Nobody responded to that. I know his origin in the comics.

See? That's just not called for. You're just being difficult. As somebody else said, why are people trying to be confrontational in this thread? You and Jackskeleton get your puppies run over or something? Chill.


I am willing to bet that Marvel has a trademark on that terminology and that it wasn't a coincidence. Not to mention that somebody already confirmed that the trivia track on the DVD confirms this is a reference to Captain America.



And it sucked. I think it's time for a new Captain America movie. All the Captain America movies in the past have been horribly bad. I don't think anybody has done this character justice on screen.