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Variable697 07-25-03 11:48 AM

Ugh! Ebert and Boobs Again!
 
Ok, so Ebert gives the new Tomb Raider movie 3 stars, but gives A Woman Is A Woman (a new restored 35mm print of Godard's second film is touring around the art houses) 2 stars. Gee, forget the fact that A Woman Is A Woman is hilarious and beautifully shot. Forget that it was directed by a master director, perhaps the most important filmmaker of the modern era. It gets a thumbs down! Go see Angelina's boobs instead!

Iron Chef 07-25-03 11:51 AM

( o Y o )

Mopower 07-25-03 11:53 AM

They both sound like borefests.

Trigger 07-25-03 11:59 AM

Maybe Tomb Raider is decent and the other one is pompous and boring... have you seen either film?

William Fuld 07-25-03 12:04 PM

And he's fat! Did I mention he's fat? And crazy! Fat and crazy!

Zzzzz....

freudguy 07-25-03 01:48 PM

Tomb Raider - 3 stars?

Further proof that Roger Ebert is slowly losing his mind.

Face/Off 07-25-03 01:49 PM

Does anyone like you?

Dr. DVD 07-25-03 01:55 PM

Interesting how every week on DVDtalk you can count on two things:

1) A thread about the weeks new blockbusters.

and

2) One devoted to illustrating that Roger Ebert has lost it for the umpteenth time.

wendersfan 07-25-03 02:02 PM


Originally posted by Trigger
Maybe Tomb Raider is decent and the other one is pompous and boring... have you seen either film?
The last thing to describe A Woman Is a Woman would be pompous and boring.

marty888 07-25-03 02:39 PM


Originally posted by freudguy


Further proof that Roger Ebert is slowly losing his mind.


Deja vu all over again .....

audrey 07-25-03 03:07 PM

2 stars is a thumbs down? That’s an average rating. Ebert has praised much of Godard’s body of work—the fact that he feels A Woman Is A Woman doesn’t deliver does not imply he’s lost it---it simply means he doesn’t feel this flick is exceptional in any way—a point he elaborates on in the body of his review.

As to Laura Croft, I haven’t seen it—but it does look like fun (even though I hated the first installment) and that’s pretty much what he says about it.

Corvin 07-25-03 03:12 PM


Originally posted by Dr. DVD
2) One devoted to illustrating that Roger Ebert has lost it for the umpteenth time.
Amen. Enough is enough.

FuzzyBallz 07-25-03 03:34 PM

If you don't like the guy's reviews, don't read it. What's wrong w/ people having to dislike something, but continue to rant about it week after week? Maybe the problem's not Ebert, but you.

funkyryno 07-25-03 03:48 PM

I doubt any of the Ebert-haters have anywhere near the movie knowledge that Ebert has. Plus, I doubt that any of them can write as well as he can.

freudguy 07-25-03 04:11 PM


If you don't like the guy's reviews, don't read it. What's wrong w/ people having to dislike something, but continue to rant about it week after week? Maybe the problem's not Ebert, but you.

Originally posted by funkyryno
I doubt any of the Ebert-haters have anywhere near the movie knowledge that Ebert has. Plus, I doub that any of them can write as well as he can.


Yeah, I'm an elitist snob.

Trigger 07-25-03 04:32 PM


Originally posted by freudguy
Yeah, I'm an elitist snob.
At least you can admit that.

Troy Stiffler 07-25-03 05:17 PM

I give a *guff* to this thread.

<b>*guff*</b>

Do you guys actually <i>READ</i> his reviews?





I guess I wasn't very clear. I'm pro-Ebert.

Dr. DVD 07-25-03 06:22 PM

Why don't we just petition for a new sub-forum entitled "Roger Ebert has Lost It" to go in the movie section? Lord knows it would get updated every week or so.

B.A. 07-25-03 06:34 PM


Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Why don't we just petition for a new sub-forum entitled "Roger Ebert has Lost It" to go in the movie section? Lord knows it would get updated every week or so.
why not just ask for a "Critic-bashing" Forum? ;)

TCG 07-25-03 06:54 PM


Originally posted by bahist17
why not just ask for a "Critic-bashing" Forum? ;)
I second that.

RyoHazuki 07-25-03 07:14 PM

Why do so many people say Ebert has lost it. Just look at the guy sitting next to him. I was flipping through one of Roepers books and that guy is so bad its unbearable.

William Fuld 07-25-03 07:26 PM

Richard Roeper is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

cultshock 07-25-03 07:45 PM


Originally posted by William Fuld
Richard Roeper is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.
And of course, all the above are the most important criteria to be a film critic. :D

joeydaninja 07-25-03 08:49 PM

I was wondering about that when I saw his high rating for Tomb Raider 2. I think subconsciously, Ebert is influenced by big ones. :D But Joe Morgenstern of the Wall Street Journal also gave Tomb Raider 2, a good review, and I find him also to be quite reliable. Let's see how the other critics judge it.

jaeufraser 07-25-03 09:00 PM

You can't compare one review to the next. His expectations for a movie like Tomb Raider are different than that of Godard's movie. he expects a fun little action romp with fun visuals from tomb raider, and with that, I suppose he got it so he gave it a thumbs up. Hell, he liked the first Tomb Raider and gave it three stars. Nonetheless, considering that no one here has actually seen the movie, not to mention Roger Ebert is a movie critic, not a person who gives tells us what our opinion will be on the movie, these threads are pointless. What if I watch Tomb Raider and I like it? Does that mean I've lost my mind also? OMG!!! I even enjoyed Congo, the first Tomb Raider, Last Action Hero, I must be INSANE!!!

tsohg 07-25-03 09:12 PM


Originally posted by Iron Chef
( o Y o )
:drool:MMM ASCII Jigglies
*right click saves*

Face/Off 07-25-03 10:24 PM

I guess we have a genre snob here.

The Antipodean 07-25-03 10:36 PM


Originally posted by jaeufraser
You can't compare one review to the next. His expectations for a movie like Tomb Raider are different than that of Godard's movie.
And you know, we can repeat this until we're blue in the face, but 90% of the people out there will still misinterpret the "stars" in his reviews. It's all relative, but nobody cares. He gave "Tomb Raider" *** ? How dare he!

Revoltor 07-26-03 12:13 AM

IYO

tha_dvd_man 07-26-03 03:00 AM

Tomb Raider 2 was a boring, unexciting over-the-top Hollywood crapfest action movie. It sucked, just like the first one did. Just because a movie is an escapist 'popcorn-flick' doesn't mean I go into the theater with lower standards than I do when going to see movies of other genres. Apparantly Hollywood thinks I should. Lord knows Ebert does, and I lose respect for him every time a review of his reflects that.

I pretty much ignore Ebert's reviews of popcorn-flicks as of late.

FuzzyBallz 07-26-03 03:39 AM


Originally posted by tsohg
:drool:MMM ASCII Jigglies
*right click saves*

Muhahahaha. Man, you're so damn funny.

Due do popular demand, I think the admins should create a Ranting and Dissing Movies/Critics Forum.

matrixrok9 07-26-03 04:06 AM

Well he did give Original Sin a thumbs up. Anything with Jolie being in a major role in a movie = thumbs up. So Michael Bay, hire Jolie as the main female character and you will get a good review from Ebert.

eXcentris 07-26-03 11:29 AM


Originally posted by tha_dvd_man
Just because a movie is an escapist 'popcorn-flick' doesn't mean I go into the theater with lower standards than I do when going to see movies of other genres. Apparantly Hollywood thinks I should.

:thumbsup:

Face/Off 07-26-03 11:34 AM


Originally posted by matrixrok9
Well he did give Original Sin a thumbs up. Anything with Jolie being in a major role in a movie = thumbs up.
Like the thumbs down for Girl Inturrupted, Gone in 60 Seconds, Playing By Heart, Life or Something Like It, and The Bone Collector?

jekbrown 07-26-03 11:37 AM

well, its all relative... maybe tomb raider is a 3-star summer flick and what-ever-its-called is only a 2-star film considering whatever genre its supposed to be.

AFA "the most important filmmaker of the modern era", thats completely irrelevant... even great film makers can make a turd and a movie should receive no more or less praise based on who directed the film. It may be worth discussing elsewhere, but in a review of a film, it has no real importance.

j

RolloTomasi 07-26-03 11:51 AM

It's not like Ebert hates Godard - you noticed that he just wrote about Breathless in The Great Movies, right? And A Woman is a Woman is nowhere near as good as Breathless, so on Ebert's method of review, two stars sounds about right. He's holding Godard to a higher standard because that is expected.

Tomb Raider, on the other hand, is not held to such a standard. It's pretty obvious that it is a mindless popcorn action flick, so Ebert assumes (correctly, in my case, and I am guessing many others') that the question is whether it is a good mindless popcorn action flick. If it is, then three stars sounds about right. Of course, Angelina Jolie might just have given the movie a bonus star - considering how reviled Godard's last film was, maybe he should recruit her if he really wants to get a favorable review from Ebert :)


And anyway, it's been said many times before that the star rating is not really important, it's the review. I wish that Ebert would just switch to a thumbs up / thumbs down rating or just drop the score entirely, so there wouldn't be all this petty quibbling about stars.

Buford T Pusser 08-02-03 12:28 AM

You should be nice to Ebert. He helped Russ Meyer bring us "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls".

SunMonkey 08-02-03 12:49 AM


Originally posted by audrey
2 stars is a thumbs down? That’s an average rating.
I think when you compare his Sun-Times reviews to his TV reviews, his :up: corresponds to his *** or higher write-ups.

Pants 08-02-03 03:30 PM


Originally posted by jekbrown

AFA "the most important filmmaker of the modern era", thats completely irrelevant... even great film makers can make a turd and a movie should receive no more or less praise based on who directed the film. It may be worth discussing elsewhere, but in a review of a film, it has no real importance.

j

As for Tomb Raider 2 I don't care what ebert gave it, or anyone else, but...

...If you were familiar with film and had seen the work of Godard (or at least could remember his name) I might listen to this arguement, but considering you have no frame of reference I really think this statement is rediculous. See the movie...then comment.

Rypro 525 08-02-03 03:34 PM


Originally posted by Buford T Pusser
You should be nice to Ebert. He helped Russ Meyer bring us "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls".
thanks for the sig


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