moocher

1 BAD BOYS II $17,500,000 $17,500,000
2 PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN $10,443,000 $109,416,000
3 THE LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN $3,382,000 35,756,000
4 JOHNNY ENGLISH $3,110,000 $3,110,000
5 TERMINATOR 3: RISE OF THE MACHINES $2,859,000$121,425,000
6 HOW TO DEAL $2,750,000 $2,750,000
7 FINDING NEMO $2,395,000 $298,915,000
8 LEGALLY BLONDE 2: RED, WHITE AND BLONDE $2,173,000$71,505,000
9 CHARLIE'S ANGELS: FULL THROTTLE $1,221,000 $86,644,000
10 28 DAYS LATER $776,000 $31,633,000

Well it looks like we can officially call T3 a disappointment. Pirates may end up rivaling the big boys of summer and Nemo will pass 300 mil today.

Dr. DVD

Looks like T3 won't even pass my prediction of $150 million. Wonder what is keeping people away? It's getting decent reviews.

Good for POTC!!! In all honesty, I hope it sticks around for a good, long, time and outdoes BB2, which I'm sure it will. Studios need to learn to stop sinking so much money into something just on star power and blow-up action.

The Antipodean

T3 is only a 'disappointment' if you only consider a movie a success based solely upon its box office numbers. Artistically, it was pretty decent IMHO. Just too much else at the box office right now going after the same audience I guess... Charlie's Angels, on the other hand, there's no way to avoid calling that a bomb if it doesn't make $100 million I think....

jaeufraser

While the T3 figures are kind of soft and definately weak, I think we should wait for international figures to come in. I imagine T3 will do incredible overseas, perhaps triple the domestic take if not more. I'm hoping so but I wouldn't call it a disapointment. I quite enjoyed the movie and so I can't complain.

Ranger

Hey, I did my part. Saw T3 twice.

Daytripper

I wonder if "The Italian Job" will reach 100 million. This weekend should put it around the 92 million mark. Same with "Charlies Angels". It should hit 87-90 million this weekend. I'm doing my part to make "POTC" a huge hit. I saw it twice already in one week. Want to go back again. Although analysts are saying this summer's movies aren't making as much as last summer (or the year before), I've certainly enjoyed more movies this summer than I have in recent memory.

mwj

Anybody know offhand how much Bad Boys II cost to make and promote?

fumanstan

IMDB says the budget was 75 million. That figure seems low after watching the movie but oh well. Nice to see it doing well though. Same with Pirates (still gotta see it!!!). T3 is probably hurting from its R rating. I think if it were PG-13, it would be a nice chunk of change higher. LXG is dead this week. I really hope to see Italian Job cross 100 mil.

Deftones

http://us.imdb.com/Business?0172156

ipkevin

You're not wrong. It went way over budget (I believe I heard $120 million+), but in its defence, every dollar shows up on screen, doesn't it?

moocher

My comment about T3 being considered a "disappointment" has nothing to do with how good the movie is or whether it is an "artistic success". I loved the movie and wish it would do better box office. It deserves to.

This is a thread about domestic box office take. Movies are like the stock market. It's all about the expectations. If a movie has a 170 mil budget, is expected to do 200 mil domestic box office, and only makes 150 mil, it's considered a box office disappointment. 28 Days Later on the other hand was expected to make squat and may end up clearing 40 mil so it's considered a box office success. I don't make the rules.

Sierra Disc, Why do you apply different standards to CA:FT than T3? Just curious...

PacMan2006

Is Bad Boys 2 making $17 million at the box office pretty good? Is it also pretty good for a R rated movie?

fumanstan

I think its pretty good and about what was expected at the box office. Not as many people have heard of the original, and i think Joe Six Pack wouldn't know who Michael Bay was until they mention that he directed The Rock, Armageddon, and Pearl Harbor. Throw in the R rating, a take of probably just over 40 million for the weekend isn't too shabby. Considering the expectations for the other big budget summer movies like T3, Charlie's Angels, and Hulk, i think this one is a wait and see for the upcoming weeks and see how it drops off.

GmoneyOwnsYou

Is T3 a dissapointment as in money making? Yes.

Is T3 a dissapointment as in being a good movie? No.

T3 was absolutly without a shadow of a doubt the best summer movie this year. Just because a movie doesnt make 30000000000BILLION DOLLARS!!!!! Doesnt mean it isnt good.

PJsig08

Let's not forget DVD sales and rentals. Some of these movies make a cool $30-40 million alone. Studios spend massive amounts of time now on these DVDs...and look at the effect it has had.

So if T3 barely makes back its budget, it'll easily surpass it when the DVDs arrive. Also, there are plenty of tie-ins, whether food, cars, or sunglasses for these movies. And those ain't free.

moocher

Since we're digging into the details...

Yes, T3 will make money. The relationship between box office gross and overall budget is really moot. People assume that if the movie grosses more than it's budget in the U.S. then it made a profit. Not true. The studio only gets a fraction of this (65% I believe) and they also spend a lot of money promoting it so there there is no direct relationship without doing more math.

However, when you figure in international gross (which will be huge for T3), and all the other things PJsig08 mentions, T3 will make plenty of profit (just think of how much Nemo will make!!!!). It's just that the general perception about a movie's success or failure is based on the expectations of domestic gross vs its actual performance. I don't know why that is so but it is so.

SteveyP93

Yeah...Charlie's Angels and T3 will make their money back, no problem whatsoever. If CA were to get to 105 million in theaters, it would only be in the hole approx. 20 million. 8 Mile, when released on video, sold 60-70 million worth of DVDs in the first week alone. And as much as some people hate CA, it is THE kind of movie that people who don't go to the theaters will rent and blind buy upon its release.

Same with Terminator. And for the person who said that its struggling cause its R rated. Well, a PG-13 Terminator is not a Terminator at all.

Trigger

The R rating on a movie being bad for box office is a myth... As for BB2 opening... looks like it's on track to being in the top 10 (possibly top 5) openings for an R movie of all time.

El-Kabong

Yeah, as a rule a movie has to make about 3 times what it cost - production and advertising - for it to start counting as making a profit. At least that was the guideline cited me when I was in film school.

DonnachaOne

Very doubtful. "R Rating hurts box office!" is what a studio says when their film underperforms. People are divided over the film, that's all.

Warner did expect this film to do better, I'd say - after all, they won't make a penny from international. Also, while it's nice to have a DVD outdo the theater run, as often happens nowadays, the studios like to get the money in quick.

Columbia has the foreign rights, and I'm sure they're looking forward to a massive haul.

Groucho

I think T3 would get better box office if James Cameron's name was attached...even if it were the exact same film. He's one of the few directors that the public actually knows. Having Linda Hamilton on board wouldn't have hurt either.

And an "R" rating can hurt a film's box office...but not every film. I think anything less would have hurt T3 or Bad Boys 2.

Dr. DVD

If a movie has to make three times what it cost to turn a profit, I wonder if any movie out there ever turns one. If that rule, which I first heard when Waterworld was coming out, is true, why keep investing hughe amounts of money into blockbusters? Why not make some lower budget films that would turn a profit with a little more ease?

One thing I've noticed is that while audiences have always gone to the movies a lot in the summer, the amount of them going in mass seems like it's becoming more a holiday/mid= thru the end of Christmas deal. In summer people go to movies, but with outdoor activities galore to partake in, they want to budget their time wisely. In winter, however, there is no real thing to do but stay inside, so audiences are more likely to spend it watching a movie, hence the release of longer films during the winter months. Also, major hits have arisen during the past two holidays, thanks to Harry Potter and LOTR.

BassDude

Saw Pirates this weekend. At my "out of the way" theater, the showing I wanted to see was sold out. The one an hour later that I finally made it to looked like it was as well. (Couples/groups walking up and down the aisles doing the "is that seat taken" shuffle with their hands full of snackbar munchies then walking out.) Some folks even clapped after the film was over.

Pirates is getting great word of mouth. It'll be interesting to see how the final weekend numbers look against Bad Boys II...

PJsig08

TOTALS FOR THE WEEKEND:

1 - Bad Boys II SONY $46,700,000 $46,700,000 1 3186
2 1 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl BV $33,300,000 $132,200,000 2 3359
3 2 The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen FOX $10,100,000 $42,474,097 2 3002
4 - Johnny English UNIV $9,300,000 $9,300,000 1 2236
5 3 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines WB $9,195,000 $127,761,000 3 3404
6 5 Finding Nemo DISNEY/PIXAR $7,300,000 $303,800,000 8 2480
7 4 Legally Blonde 2: Red, White & Blonde MGM $6,100,000 $75,432,000 3 3205
8 - How to Deal NL $5,800,000 $5,800,000 1 2319
9 6 Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle SONY $3,700,000 $89,123,000 4 2261
10 8 28 Days Later FOX SEARCH $2,550,000 $33,406,534 4 1310
11 7 Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas D'WORKS $1,800,000 $23,200,000 3 2017
12 10 The Italian Job PARA $1,755,000 $92,111,000 8 953


Bad Boys II with a big weekend, anything over $40 million is good for an R rated film. Looks like Pirates did great, and Nemo crosses $300 million easy.

RichC2

Pirates had less than a 30% drop - it's been a while since a 'big' movie has dropped that little in its second weekend.