Box Office #s for Full Thottle, etc.
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Originally posted by matome
Not sure Nemo will agree with that, but in defense of MR there will be a very large gap between the second and third place finishers this summer.
Not sure Nemo will agree with that, but in defense of MR there will be a very large gap between the second and third place finishers this summer.
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Well, just got back from Charlies Angels 2...was a decent flick. Lots of action and hot butts. Let's face it, it's not going to win any awards, but its a fun summer movie, and guess what....it's summer time! You guys need to lighten up with all the CA2 bashing. If every movie was meaningful, long, and well thought out...there wouldnt be any fun, stupid action movies to go see. Just my 2 cents...have not seen the Hulk yet, but friend said it was the best comic book movie ever...I will have to check it out for myself. Reveiws and word of mouth are usually opposite of my movie tastes anyways
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Matthew Chmiel, what franchise do you think I was speaking of?
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KAY, you're right! And 80's fever is going around. 80's nostalgia, once a few more of Sony's big budget films bomb. They will go searching in the back and see what old franchises they can revive. And with all the nostalgia, Ghostbusters will eventually sooner or later be takin off the backburner. Trust me, it happened to Terminator. And its happening with Indiana Jones. Just a matter of time before Ghostbusters get the big 3. And the way things are going for Sony, they will do it without all the original crew. Reitman, Ramis, and Akroyd would all return still. Sony wont care about all the original crew, they are gonna want to make money.
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Correct me if I'm wrong or if someone already mentioned this,
but 28 DAYS only cost $14 million to make (including marketing) and it's already made $10 million in a weekend.
It's gonna be one of the most profitable films of the year.
That's the way movies should be made.......lower budgets, less stars and better storytelling.
Amen to that.
but 28 DAYS only cost $14 million to make (including marketing) and it's already made $10 million in a weekend.
It's gonna be one of the most profitable films of the year.
That's the way movies should be made.......lower budgets, less stars and better storytelling.
Amen to that.
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Originally posted by jarofclay73
Still, it may not beat T2's overall domestic take of $204m.
Still, it may not beat T2's overall domestic take of $204m.
But Universal's new adveritising campaign to get people in the theaters to see Hulk is very interesting by mentioning "people are arguing about it, now see it for yourself."
Question: why don't people take into account the advertising costs as well. Like the Hulk cost $130 million or so, plus $40 million in advertising (according to boxofficemojo). So, don't they have to at least turn $170 million to make a profit?
I'm sure all the tie-ins (fast-food promotions, toys, games) makes the marketing for the movie break even, but still, I can't see how some of these summer movies are making a dollar for their studios. Maybe foreign ticket sales, and the DVD sales help bring the total gross for a movie way back up?
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but 28 DAYS only cost $14 million to make (including marketing) and it's already made $10 million in a weekend.
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Originally posted by matome
Well it looks like two franchises are coming to an end.
Well it looks like two franchises are coming to an end.
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Originally posted by fumanstan
I think a lot of people, if not most, felt it would do better. Go look for the Summer Box Office predictions thread. The first movie was well recieved as a fun film and the second was hyped as more of the same. In fact, i thought just the opposite... i thought just about everyone expected Full Throttle to do better.
I think a lot of people, if not most, felt it would do better. Go look for the Summer Box Office predictions thread. The first movie was well recieved as a fun film and the second was hyped as more of the same. In fact, i thought just the opposite... i thought just about everyone expected Full Throttle to do better.
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Where is that thread? Because the one I saw (several weeks back), most of the people were predicting, and or hoping, it would flop.
Where is that thread? Because the one I saw (several weeks back), most of the people were predicting, and or hoping, it would flop.
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=299986
Quite a few of the predictions were in the 50-60 range, although that thread didn't have a whole lot of replies. Oh well... next up, T3!
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Originally posted by jasonbird
The Hulk looks like it may end up breaking even domestically
(it cost $137 to make) and end up with 175/200 million worldwide.
The Hulk looks like it may end up breaking even domestically
(it cost $137 to make) and end up with 175/200 million worldwide.
Originally posted by PJsig08
Question: why don't people take into account the advertising costs as well. Like the Hulk cost $130 million or so, plus $40 million in advertising (according to boxofficemojo). So, don't they have to at least turn $170 million to make a profit?
Question: why don't people take into account the advertising costs as well. Like the Hulk cost $130 million or so, plus $40 million in advertising (according to boxofficemojo). So, don't they have to at least turn $170 million to make a profit?
As a general rule of thumb movies need to make back 2.5 - 3 times their production costs before they make a profit. If/when Hulk gets into the $420-450M range it will start to register in the black. Until that time it’s losing money.
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I am not surprised about CA:FT totals judging from the audience at a Sat. showing (re: very small)
And I know I might lose some street cred for this but I actually enjoyed it (although this may be due to the fact that it was my first date with a really cool girl)
And I know I might lose some street cred for this but I actually enjoyed it (although this may be due to the fact that it was my first date with a really cool girl)
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I thought that the ratio was 2 x cost to account for total cost. Also, with the rising direct cost of films, I don't think that the ratio applies anymore. For example, if Hulk's direct production cost were $140M, your telling me it cost another $140M to advertise and distribute? I doubt it. The new ratio is probably 150% of direct cost if a dircect cost > $100M. I don't know for sure, I'm just speculating.
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Originally posted by Xndman
I thought that the ratio was 2 x cost to account for total cost. Also, with the rising direct cost of films, I don't think that the ratio applies anymore. For example, if Hulk's direct production cost were $140M, your telling me it cost another $140M to advertise and distribute?
I thought that the ratio was 2 x cost to account for total cost. Also, with the rising direct cost of films, I don't think that the ratio applies anymore. For example, if Hulk's direct production cost were $140M, your telling me it cost another $140M to advertise and distribute?
You have to factor in the percentage the exhibiting cinemas take, the tax the studio will pay on those earnings & any percentage points the director or stars may have along with cost of prints, transportation etc. All eat into the revenue the studio gets back which is why each movie has to generate so many times back it’s costs before it’s in the black. AFAIK, Hulk’s marketing costs currently stand around $40-$50M.
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Originally posted by jonathan.e
You have to factor in the percentage the exhibiting cinemas take, the tax the studio will pay on those earnings & any percentage points the director or stars may have along with cost of prints, transportation etc. All eat into the revenue the studio gets back which is why each movie has to generate so many times back it’s costs before it’s in the black. AFAIK, Hulk’s marketing costs currently stand around $40-$50M.
You have to factor in the percentage the exhibiting cinemas take, the tax the studio will pay on those earnings & any percentage points the director or stars may have along with cost of prints, transportation etc. All eat into the revenue the studio gets back which is why each movie has to generate so many times back it’s costs before it’s in the black. AFAIK, Hulk’s marketing costs currently stand around $40-$50M.
account licensing and merchandise domestically and world wide.
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Originally posted by jasonbird
If your going to get that nitpicky, then you have to take into
account licensing and merchandise domestically and world wide.
Jason
If your going to get that nitpicky, then you have to take into
account licensing and merchandise domestically and world wide.
Jason
DVD market is another set of figures: Seperate production and advertising costs to the theatrical release.
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That's the thing, the Hulk movie doesn't have to do incredible
(pardon the pun) to sell toys and whatnot. Fans of the comic
and TV show are also buying up the stuff. Plus, sure there are
costs in making a DVD, but a lot of the stuff for it is included in
the movie production (when their movies this big). They film
a lot of the content while the movie is being made. Plus the
returns still go to the studio, and it all gets credited towards the
movie. The added advertising and production costs to a dvd
compared to a theatrical release are nil (again depending on the
case).
Jason
(pardon the pun) to sell toys and whatnot. Fans of the comic
and TV show are also buying up the stuff. Plus, sure there are
costs in making a DVD, but a lot of the stuff for it is included in
the movie production (when their movies this big). They film
a lot of the content while the movie is being made. Plus the
returns still go to the studio, and it all gets credited towards the
movie. The added advertising and production costs to a dvd
compared to a theatrical release are nil (again depending on the
case).
Jason
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Originally posted by jasonbird
That's the thing, the Hulk movie doesn't have to do incredible
(pardon the pun) to sell toys and whatnot. Fans of the comic
and TV show are also buying up the stuff.
That's the thing, the Hulk movie doesn't have to do incredible
(pardon the pun) to sell toys and whatnot. Fans of the comic
and TV show are also buying up the stuff.
Originally posted by jasonbird
The added advertising and production costs to a dvd
compared to a theatrical release are nil (again depending on the
case).
The added advertising and production costs to a dvd
compared to a theatrical release are nil (again depending on the
case).
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wow.
first Fastlane bombs..
now Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle..
McG's having a McTerrible year...
does this mean next year he'll be doing McMusic videos again..?
nah...of course not. if his next flick does good, it'll be his "McComeback"...
first Fastlane bombs..
now Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle..
McG's having a McTerrible year...
does this mean next year he'll be doing McMusic videos again..?
nah...of course not. if his next flick does good, it'll be his "McComeback"...
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Hulk figures - seen them at Target and Toys-R-Us.
I still get a kick out of those Hulk hands you can buy. You put them over your own hands, and when you move them around, or hit them on something, you get some Hulk growling noises coming from the Hulk hands.
I still get a kick out of those Hulk hands you can buy. You put them over your own hands, and when you move them around, or hit them on something, you get some Hulk growling noises coming from the Hulk hands.