Hulk sequel in the works
#29
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Asgard
bana wants more money and i say pay him. connelly could be replaced though. i liked the first one, problably the best cgi i've seen up to return of the king. hope it gets done. it did very good overseas and on dvd so it did make it's money back and alot more.
#31
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 2,361
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Studio, actors backing out of "Hulk 2"
Originally posted by Sierra Disc
The budget of the first film was near $137 million and the marketing costs were nearly a quarter of that. The end result? apparently somewhere near the $132 million region. In otherwords, a loss. Many involved blame it on the other films on release that week, whilst other said it was merely due to the wrong tactics being used in marketing it (it was more a psychological drama not a superhero film, blah, blah).
The budget of the first film was near $137 million and the marketing costs were nearly a quarter of that. The end result? apparently somewhere near the $132 million region. In otherwords, a loss. Many involved blame it on the other films on release that week, whilst other said it was merely due to the wrong tactics being used in marketing it (it was more a psychological drama not a superhero film, blah, blah).
As far as blame, "other films on release that week". Bah!! It did great the first week. Word of mouth is what killed it.
...and yeah, let's not market Hulk as a superhero movie but rather as a "psychological drama". Who would want to go see that???
Me? I thought the movie sucked and while I would like to see another one made, I want a superhero movie - not a psychological drama...
#32
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
The sequel is already set up and there is no need for 45 minutes of deep psychological character development. The smart thing to do is to make this into a super hero action film that starts off in yo' face. I liked the Hulk up until the stupid ending with his father. Hulk was a box office dissapointment but by no means did it tank. International box office almost doubled the North American take and DVD sales were strong.
#33
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 4,551
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
To blame the failure of The Hulk on anything but word of mouth is ridiculous. Marketing? Other releases? Hello, 60 million dollar opening.
And as said before, the movie was profitable. If they say otherwise, they're probably lying. 240 international barely makes them their money back (they take maybe 50-60% of that) but with ancillary markets you see green.
But, I can understand balking at a sequel. Making a sequel to a movie that no one cared for in general ain't that grand of an idea. Tomb Raider 2 should be a great example.
And as said before, the movie was profitable. If they say otherwise, they're probably lying. 240 international barely makes them their money back (they take maybe 50-60% of that) but with ancillary markets you see green.
But, I can understand balking at a sequel. Making a sequel to a movie that no one cared for in general ain't that grand of an idea. Tomb Raider 2 should be a great example.
#34
Originally posted by jaeufraser
To blame the failure of The Hulk on anything but word of mouth is ridiculous. Marketing? Other releases? Hello, 60 million dollar opening.
To blame the failure of The Hulk on anything but word of mouth is ridiculous. Marketing? Other releases? Hello, 60 million dollar opening.
However, if they cast Buscemi or Duchovny, I would see the sequel because I love them. Buscemi as The Hulk? I love this movie already.
#35
DVD Talk Legend
Word of mouth is what ended up killing the movie.
I saw the midnight showing the Friday of it's release. Once the film went to black and the credits began rolling, a majority of the theater was pissed off they stayed up past 2am to see that piece of crap. I heard many, many negative remarks against the film when I was walking out, and the theater was sold out.
I never saw an entire theater pissed off at a single movie ever since I saw Solaris (which I loved and 80% of the theater walked out on before the final 30 minutes) and Scream 3 (which I hated unlike the first two films). Just because it took $60 million it's opening weekend means nothing. Word spread quickly after that opening weekend. Remember, Hulk has one of the biggest second weekend drops for a big mainstream blockbuster film.
If they do a sequel, first thing Universal needs to do is fire Ang Lee and Jim Schamus. Don't even let those two near the film. Hire a good writer and director and do an all-out big budget action movie (I agree with cruzness on this). We had a 130 minute character and plot development movie (X-Men was handled much better than Hulk, so let's just go all-out and have Hulk just going crazy and Hulk smashing things for a solid two-hours. Get ILM and make them produce the best visual effects known to man. Make it one of the best action films of all time. Do that, and the film will make money and hopefully take the bad taste of the first film out of people's mouths.
But Universal probably won't do this, and if the sequel is released, it'll tank.
I saw the midnight showing the Friday of it's release. Once the film went to black and the credits began rolling, a majority of the theater was pissed off they stayed up past 2am to see that piece of crap. I heard many, many negative remarks against the film when I was walking out, and the theater was sold out.
I never saw an entire theater pissed off at a single movie ever since I saw Solaris (which I loved and 80% of the theater walked out on before the final 30 minutes) and Scream 3 (which I hated unlike the first two films). Just because it took $60 million it's opening weekend means nothing. Word spread quickly after that opening weekend. Remember, Hulk has one of the biggest second weekend drops for a big mainstream blockbuster film.
If they do a sequel, first thing Universal needs to do is fire Ang Lee and Jim Schamus. Don't even let those two near the film. Hire a good writer and director and do an all-out big budget action movie (I agree with cruzness on this). We had a 130 minute character and plot development movie (X-Men was handled much better than Hulk, so let's just go all-out and have Hulk just going crazy and Hulk smashing things for a solid two-hours. Get ILM and make them produce the best visual effects known to man. Make it one of the best action films of all time. Do that, and the film will make money and hopefully take the bad taste of the first film out of people's mouths.
But Universal probably won't do this, and if the sequel is released, it'll tank.
#37
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 2,444
Likes: 0
Received 33 Likes
on
16 Posts
From: A secret rebel stronghold in the Republic of San Marcos
...but a sequel would likely be a dumbed down smash-a-thon.
Not "Merchant Ivory's A Gamma-Irradiated Room With A View."
#38
DVD Talk Special Edition
Joined: Jan 1999
Posts: 1,974
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Arizona
So what are Universal pouring them money into at the moment - blockbuster wise? There's a couple of things. First, there's a new "Mummy" movie which Brendan Fraser's probably going to come back and do, and then there's a fourth "Indiana Jones" and "Jurassic Park"".
must have the inside info!

Jason
#40
DVD Talk Legend
It's all sequels - sheesh - hulk, xmen, spiderman, indiana jones, jurassic park...
soon every movie will have a "2" in it.
what happened to "original enjoyable movies"?
soon every movie will have a "2" in it.
what happened to "original enjoyable movies"?
#41
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,278
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Bonney Lake, WA
Originally posted by Seeker
It's all sequels - sheesh - hulk, xmen, spiderman, indiana jones, jurassic park...
soon every movie will have a "2" in it.
what happened to "original enjoyable movies"?
It's all sequels - sheesh - hulk, xmen, spiderman, indiana jones, jurassic park...
soon every movie will have a "2" in it.
what happened to "original enjoyable movies"?
I demand originality!
#43
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Hulk and Daredevil weren't as good as Spiderman or X-Men. Can't say I'm surprised with this bit of news.
Marvel would be well advised to not try and push sequels when the public isn't clamoring for them.
Marvel would be well advised to not try and push sequels when the public isn't clamoring for them.
#45
Banned
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 6,154
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
From: "Sitting on a beach, earning 20%"
Shame there won't be a sequal, but from the sounds of things I wouldn't want to see the sequal that they plan to make. I loved the Hulk. It's an intelligent movie for an interested audience. Not a special effects jerk off for ADD infected sheep.
#46
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Originally posted by Pants
Shame there won't be a sequal, but from the sounds of things I wouldn't want to see the sequal that they plan to make. I loved the Hulk. It's an intelligent movie for an interested audience. Not a special effects jerk off for ADD infected sheep.
Shame there won't be a sequal, but from the sounds of things I wouldn't want to see the sequal that they plan to make. I loved the Hulk. It's an intelligent movie for an interested audience. Not a special effects jerk off for ADD infected sheep.
I loved this movie. It had a great story.
#47
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
If you liked Hulk, you enjoyed pretensiousness and boring babbling and art where it doesnt belong.
If you didnt like Hulk, you are a stupid teenager who has ADD and watches Micheal Bay movies.
If you didnt like Hulk, you are a stupid teenager who has ADD and watches Micheal Bay movies.
#48
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Hulk was a challenging film, and it looks like most of the audience wasn't up to the challenge.
small loss, i loved it and am happy i have one great film rather than several mediocre ones.
Ang and crew have nothing to be ashamed of-except underestimating the need of modern audiences to have bright and shiny things waved in front of their faces for 2 hrs to hold their attention.
small loss, i loved it and am happy i have one great film rather than several mediocre ones.
Ang and crew have nothing to be ashamed of-except underestimating the need of modern audiences to have bright and shiny things waved in front of their faces for 2 hrs to hold their attention.
Last edited by ckolchak; 12-28-03 at 01:39 PM.
#49
Moderator
Originally posted by RyoHazuki7
If you liked Hulk, you enjoyed pretensiousness and boring babbling and art where it doesnt belong.
If you didnt like Hulk, you are a stupid teenager who has ADD and watches Micheal Bay movies.
If you liked Hulk, you enjoyed pretensiousness and boring babbling and art where it doesnt belong.
If you didnt like Hulk, you are a stupid teenager who has ADD and watches Micheal Bay movies.

Seriously, people. Is it possible to discuss the film and not insult those who disagree with your opinion?



