How bad will Dumb and Dumberer tank?
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92% rotten - that's a lot of tomatoes!
But..... it gave rise to this wonderful review line:
"There is no audience for this film, because retarded monkeys don't have money."
-- Walter Chaw, FILM FREAK CENTRAL
But..... it gave rise to this wonderful review line:
"There is no audience for this film, because retarded monkeys don't have money."
-- Walter Chaw, FILM FREAK CENTRAL
#52
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People are morons. That's the reason this movie can do okay coupled with a smallish budget (for a summer film). I'd guess a fairly decent opening $25-$30 million, followed by an ultra quick fall-off.
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The movie studios don't release films that don't have good acting and writing!!!
The movie studios don't release films that don't have good acting and writing!!!
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#55
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Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd is without doubt the worst movie I’ve seen in a long time! It hardly warrants the pity star I have to give it because we don’t give anything lower! In fact, this movie is so bad that I should, in retrospect, give a half star bump-up to all of the previous films that I’ve given one star to because they just don't belong in the same company as this film.
Dumberer is the prequel to the hugely successful comedy Dumber and Dumber from 1994 starring Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels as two social misfits on a road trip looking for love in their canine car. This time around, we see just how the pair met, and became friends. After being home schooled for years, Harry (Eric Christian Olsen) and Lloyd (Derek Richardson) are finally ready for public high school (either that or their parents got sick of their childishness). As fate would have it, on their first day of school, Harry and Lloyd literally run into each other. Attracted to the other one’s stupidity, they not only become inseparable, they also become the first students of the school’s new special needs class.
The class is just a fraud set up by principal Collins (Eugene Levy) and his lunch-lady love Ms. Heller (Cheri Oteri) to milk the school district out of $100,000 for offering the class. Harry and Lloyd are tasked with recruiting other special needs kids for the class, but all they can find is a group of slackers pretending to fit in with them. Perky student reporter Jessica (model Rachel Nichols) soon gets word of the scam, and sets out to expose it with the “help” of Harry and Lloyd.
The laughs Dumberer tries (and fails) to elicit come predictably at the expense of Harry and Lloyd’s stupidity as they play repeated games of tag, and become punching bags for the school’s bullies. The infantile humor never works; in fact, it gets fouler as the film goes along. Director Troy Miller has no use for a film with a plot and is so satisfied with the crude material that he abandons any chance to extend the film’s one joke further. Dumberer misses some great comedic opportunities that exist with the principal/lunch-lady affair – most of the Levy/Oteri material is shamefully just a throwaway.
Dumberer has no purpose other than to capitalize on the success of the original film; however, the original film stands well enough on its own without this installment. Who really remembers Dumb and Dumber from nine years ago enough to make or want to see another film anyhow? Dumber’s target audience is now older, hopefully more mature and looking for more intelligent movie choices. The talented lead actors from Dumber have grown into better roles, and Dumber’s directors, the Farrelly brothers, have moved on to perfect their gross-out filmmaking with the superbly crafted There’s Something About Mary.
I will admit Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd did get one chuckle out of me when Jessica’s father, played by Funniest Home Videos’ Bob Saget, goes on a four letter verbal rampage describing the melted chocolate on his bathroom walls as something else – yummy! It can’t get much dumber than that, or should I say dumberer?
Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd is without doubt the worst movie I’ve seen in a long time! It hardly warrants the pity star I have to give it because we don’t give anything lower! In fact, this movie is so bad that I should, in retrospect, give a half star bump-up to all of the previous films that I’ve given one star to because they just don't belong in the same company as this film.
Dumberer is the prequel to the hugely successful comedy Dumber and Dumber from 1994 starring Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels as two social misfits on a road trip looking for love in their canine car. This time around, we see just how the pair met, and became friends. After being home schooled for years, Harry (Eric Christian Olsen) and Lloyd (Derek Richardson) are finally ready for public high school (either that or their parents got sick of their childishness). As fate would have it, on their first day of school, Harry and Lloyd literally run into each other. Attracted to the other one’s stupidity, they not only become inseparable, they also become the first students of the school’s new special needs class.
The class is just a fraud set up by principal Collins (Eugene Levy) and his lunch-lady love Ms. Heller (Cheri Oteri) to milk the school district out of $100,000 for offering the class. Harry and Lloyd are tasked with recruiting other special needs kids for the class, but all they can find is a group of slackers pretending to fit in with them. Perky student reporter Jessica (model Rachel Nichols) soon gets word of the scam, and sets out to expose it with the “help” of Harry and Lloyd.
The laughs Dumberer tries (and fails) to elicit come predictably at the expense of Harry and Lloyd’s stupidity as they play repeated games of tag, and become punching bags for the school’s bullies. The infantile humor never works; in fact, it gets fouler as the film goes along. Director Troy Miller has no use for a film with a plot and is so satisfied with the crude material that he abandons any chance to extend the film’s one joke further. Dumberer misses some great comedic opportunities that exist with the principal/lunch-lady affair – most of the Levy/Oteri material is shamefully just a throwaway.
Dumberer has no purpose other than to capitalize on the success of the original film; however, the original film stands well enough on its own without this installment. Who really remembers Dumb and Dumber from nine years ago enough to make or want to see another film anyhow? Dumber’s target audience is now older, hopefully more mature and looking for more intelligent movie choices. The talented lead actors from Dumber have grown into better roles, and Dumber’s directors, the Farrelly brothers, have moved on to perfect their gross-out filmmaking with the superbly crafted There’s Something About Mary.
I will admit Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd did get one chuckle out of me when Jessica’s father, played by Funniest Home Videos’ Bob Saget, goes on a four letter verbal rampage describing the melted chocolate on his bathroom walls as something else – yummy! It can’t get much dumber than that, or should I say dumberer?
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Originally posted by DVDProfessor
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Dungeons & Dragons
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Someone missed the point.
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Originally posted by DVDProfessor
Dungeons & Dragons
Freddy Got Fingered
Agent Cody Banks
Barney's Big Adventure
Elmo in Grouchland
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Dungeons & Dragons
Freddy Got Fingered
Agent Cody Banks
Barney's Big Adventure
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should I continue?
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The Friday numbers are in, and it looks like D&D will take fourth or fifth place with about $13 Million, the big shocker is Hollywood Homicide in 6th with only about $12 Million.
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Originally posted by Mittman
The Friday numbers are in, and it looks like D&D will take fourth or fifth place with about $13 Million, the big shocker is Hollywood Homicide in 6th with only about $12 Million.
The Friday numbers are in, and it looks like D&D will take fourth or fifth place with about $13 Million, the big shocker is Hollywood Homicide in 6th with only about $12 Million.
The reviews I'm reading of Dumb and Dumberer are hilarious. Let's hope to God this one makes under $10mill this weekend.
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Here's the Friday estimates from BoxOfficeMojo: link
Dumb and Dumberer opened with about 4.6 million so that should end up around 18-20 by Sunday night. Hollywood Homicide did even worse, with only around 3.8 million for the day. Hopefully Hollywood will take a clue now that no one cares about rehashed sequels, or Josh Hartnett for that matter.
Dumb and Dumberer opened with about 4.6 million so that should end up around 18-20 by Sunday night. Hollywood Homicide did even worse, with only around 3.8 million for the day. Hopefully Hollywood will take a clue now that no one cares about rehashed sequels, or Josh Hartnett for that matter.
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I payed 3 bucks to see it tonight, and I have to admit, it was the worst movie I have personally ever seen on the big screen, worse than not another teen movie, wow..... I am still in shock at how bad this movie was ....although
I feel bad for the guy that played Lloyd, I thought he did a fairly good job impersonating Carrey, movies like this make me hate Hollywood so much
As far as the point of this thread, I think it will bomb, but I think it will still be really profitable (damn you Hollywood!!!!!) I would predict it will make around $40 mill by the end of it's run
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I feel bad for the guy that played Lloyd, I thought he did a fairly good job impersonating Carrey, movies like this make me hate Hollywood so much
As far as the point of this thread, I think it will bomb, but I think it will still be really profitable (damn you Hollywood!!!!!) I would predict it will make around $40 mill by the end of it's run
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Originally posted by ArchibaldTuttle
I payed 3 bucks to see it tonight, and I have to admit, it was the worst movie I have personally ever seen on the big screen, worse than not another teen movie, wow..... I am still in shock at how bad this movie was ....although
I feel bad for the guy that played Lloyd, I thought he did a fairly good job impersonating Carrey, movies like this make me hate Hollywood so much
As far as the point of this thread, I think it will bomb, but I think it will still be really profitable (damn you Hollywood!!!!!) I would predict it will make around $40 mill by the end of it's run
I payed 3 bucks to see it tonight, and I have to admit, it was the worst movie I have personally ever seen on the big screen, worse than not another teen movie, wow..... I am still in shock at how bad this movie was ....although
Spoiler:
I feel bad for the guy that played Lloyd, I thought he did a fairly good job impersonating Carrey, movies like this make me hate Hollywood so much
As far as the point of this thread, I think it will bomb, but I think it will still be really profitable (damn you Hollywood!!!!!) I would predict it will make around $40 mill by the end of it's run
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I'm actually more surprised about Dumb and Dumberer doing 3rd place than I am about Hollywood Homicide coming in 6th place. I had a feeling HH would flop... I don't know whether it's good or not, but it seemed like Harrison's version of DeNiro and Eddie Murphy's Showtime with the style and class of Metro. I was way off on the Dumb numbers... guess Americans aren't quite as stupid as I thought they were.
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Originally posted by Groucho
OMG! Shut up! If you haven't seen the film, don't diss it! The movie studios don't release films that don't have good acting and writing!!!
OMG! Shut up! If you haven't seen the film, don't diss it! The movie studios don't release films that don't have good acting and writing!!!
OMG LOL you are so funny.
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Did Freda Felcher make an appearance?
Did Freda Felcher make an appearance?
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It's in, $11 million for the first weekend.
I guess 6th place can be considered "tanking"...I hope
Thank God this did horrible. Nice call, people on the $120 million take
I guess 6th place can be considered "tanking"...I hope

Thank God this did horrible. Nice call, people on the $120 million take
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Originally posted by Trigger
It'll make about 35-40M opening weekend if not more. It'll probably clear about 120M by the end of it's theatrical run if not more.
It'll make about 35-40M opening weekend if not more. It'll probably clear about 120M by the end of it's theatrical run if not more.
I doubt I'll ever bother watching this one as I don't want to be thinking about it when I watch the first one again.
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Originally posted by Sierra Disc
I predict $12 million opening and around $50 million total. Good but not great.
I predict $12 million opening and around $50 million total. Good but not great.






