This was brought up in another thread by someone else, but it didn't get much attention.

In the Architect/Neo conversation, the Architect tells Neo, "Your 5 predecessors were, BY DESIGN, based on a similar predication a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species facilitating the function of the One."


By design? Who's the designer? The architect?



Discuss amongst yourselves.

Yes. Neo has been constructed to be the One. There was no choice.

Amongst ourselves? Why not in the community.


My take.. this does not throw any proof in the Matrix In a Matrix theory. that is still pretty silly and I would feel as if it was a huge let down.

The way he talks, you have to assume one of the key players is Don King. The establification of the proclamation is a testimation to affirmation. Only in America!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jackskeleton
[B]Amongst ourselves? Why not in the community. [QUOTE]


I apologize for my poor Mike Meyers impersonation.

So basically the Architect said "The other Neos were designed to choose to save the human race not some fine piece of ass"

Yeah! the 'someone else' was me!

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...5&pagenumber=3

i've been thinking that maybe 'by design' means that it's simply part of human nature.

I think this line needs to be viewed from the perspective of psychology (nature v. nurture) and the nature of the Matrix.

When a person is "born" into the Matrix the machines can assign each newborn into a family and life. The machines have been demonstrating and explaining they can control every aspect of the Matrix, so they could seemingly dictate the vast majority of a persons life experiences if they desired. Therefore, they could nurture (design) a human if they desired. (In most cases I think they limit their nurturing, but when the time comes for "The One" to help reload the source...)

But what if man is more strongly influenced by nature (genetics) and now their nurturing effect has been limited in Neo?

I took the Architecht's explanation of The One as an anomaly that grows out of any one in the Matrix. The One isn't really chosen; it just happens.... therefore I think the anomaly grows out of people who are more compassionate towards humanity than others. I don't think "by design" meant literally designed or manufactured that way by the Matrix, but the very nature of who the anomaly grows out of in the Matrix.

I dunno if that made any sense... but that's my take on it.

I agree with you Crack 6k. The One is an anomaly, something not designed but an unfortunate side effect of the "perfect" Matrix they tried to create. The control measures of Zion and such were designed to control this anomaly, but I don't think the One is in fact a designed program rather than a nuisance the Matrix has to deal with.

I took it to mean that the anomaly were those human inhabitants that formed the society living in Zion and that the One was created to learn from (in an attempt to avoid the anomaly's reappearance) and then do away with this anomaly. This would be to eventually be done with Zion once and for all and never have to upgrade the Matrix again.

Exactly, How could it be an "anomoly" if the machines designed it?? The control they placed on the ONE is through the Prophecy. Knowing that the One would be discovered and eventually compelled to follow the Prophecy.... Leading him to the source.

Isn't the Architect God the Father?

And I wouldn't be surprised if in the end we find out that it was the machines who built the humans, and not the other way around.

-- Jough

That can't be true. Watch the The Second Rennassaince from the Animatrix.

The Animatrix isn't considered Matrix "Canon" is it? It'll be interesting to see if anything is contradicted from the Animatrix when the third film is released.

-- Jough

Since the Wachowskis wrote a good bit of it and oversaw the production I'd better hope it IS canon.

And by the way, I thought it was far superior to Reloaded. I just watched it tonight and I think it was good enough to deserve a theatrical release. Most all the shorts were good or very good with far more interesting stories than the feature, plus very nicely done animation.