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Old 05-08-03 | 02:32 PM
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Jennifer Lopez has to pay license fee to imitate Flashdance

From IMDb:
Jennifer Lopez has acknowledged that her dance number in her new video "I'm Glad" uses the same routine that appeared in the "What a Feeling" sequence in the 1983 movie Flashdance, starring Jennifer Beals. Responding to a legal notice sent by Paramount Pictures to Sony, whose Epic Records company produced the video, a spokeswoman for Lopez said Wednesday that the dance was intended to pay tribute to the movie. A Paramount spokeswoman told reporters Wednesday that Sony has agreed to pay a licensing fee for use of the routine.
What is up with this? If she'd made a parody she wouldn't have this hassle. The Simpsons, Saturday Night Live and dozens of other shows and movies imitate, parody, and saterize famous scenes from movies, they don't have to pay a license fee.
Old 05-08-03 | 02:50 PM
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Paramount and their money-grubbing.
Old 05-08-03 | 02:55 PM
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Parodies are protected under free speach, plagarizing is not (or at least not for civil lawsuits) I tend to agree its stupid, but whenever artists start pullling out "well it was a tribute" you know they are in trouble legally.
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Lopez Lawsuit Paves Way for Movie Role


Jennifer Lopez is in talks to appear in a remake of 1983 movie Flashdance - after movie bosses spotted her copying dance routines from the original in her "I'm Glad" video. Bosses at Paramount, who made the original flick, were stunned by the promo - which copies Jennifer Beals' "What A Feeling" routine almost entirely - and demanded damages from J.LO's record company Sony. A source tells gossip site Pagesix, "The scenes were, frame by frame, the same. Paramount sent a legal letter to Sony claiming copyright infringement. There was nothing Sony could do - it is the same - so they are settling." But they were so impressed with Lopez' moves, Paramount are now keen to remake the movie - with her in the lead role.
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Lopez Lawsuit Paves Way for Movie Role


Jennifer Lopez is in talks to appear in a remake of 1983 movie Flashdance - after movie bosses spotted her copying dance routines from the original in her "I'm Glad" video. Bosses at Paramount, who made the original flick, were stunned by the promo - which copies Jennifer Beals' "What A Feeling" routine almost entirely - and demanded damages from J.LO's record company Sony. A source tells gossip site Pagesix, "The scenes were, frame by frame, the same. Paramount sent a legal letter to Sony claiming copyright infringement. There was nothing Sony could do - it is the same - so they are settling." But they were so impressed with Lopez' moves, Paramount are now keen to remake the movie - with her in the lead role.
That's awful, just awful.
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In that case, Universal has grounds for a great lawsuit against Universal...

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Parodies are protected under free speach, plagarizing is not (or at least not for civil lawsuits) I tend to agree its stupid, but whenever artists start pullling out "well it was a tribute" you know they are in trouble legally.
The arguement could be made that it WAS a parody. I was laughing the whole time.

I also wanted to add that (contrary to the folks at Paramount who clearly know nothing about their own films) the music video was not "frame for frame" identical. For one thing J-Lo didn't do the breakdancing moves that the original Flashdance audition scene had (hell, she didn't even wear the same costume!)

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Old 05-08-03 | 04:34 PM
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I watched both side by side and many of the scenes are exactly the same, right down to the framing.
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I stay away from anything with JLo in it.
Old 05-08-03 | 06:47 PM
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Didn't Geri halliwell do Flashdance in a video recently?
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I stay away from anything with JLo in it.
Same.
Old 05-09-03 | 07:29 AM
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I'm tired of JLo. She and her bad "music", perfume, bad romantic comedies and boyfriend need to simply go away.
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In that case, Universal has grounds for a great lawsuit against Universal...
Probably not - they're completely different - the first one was great, the second one sucked.

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I stay away from anything with JLo in it.
i love anything bad that happens to her career!
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(hell, she didn't even wear the same costume!)
From the Not That It Matters Dept:

According to Good Day Live she did ask Jennifer Beals to borrow the outfit that was used in the movie. Apparently they had to expand some parts to accomodate Jennifer's assets..
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I can appreciate that you guys don't like Jennifer Lopez, I'm not much of a fan myself. but the point of this thread is that I can't believe the record co. had to pay a royalty on a parody. I think it's BS.
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Didn't Geri halliwell do Flashdance in a video recently?
Yes. That and Fame.

In a little black two-piece...

(Donnacha goes off to his room to watch his Now That's What I Call Music 2001: The Videos)
Old 05-09-03 | 11:45 AM
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From the Not That It Matters Dept:

According to Good Day Live she did ask Jennifer Beals to borrow the outfit that was used in the movie. Apparently they had to expand some parts to accomodate Jennifer's assets..
I would sware that in Flashdane it was a one piece.
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I would sware that in Flashdane it was a one piece
Was that the one that was directed by Lars Von Trier
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Was that the one that was directed by Lars Von Trier
Classic!

Now THAT I would like to see
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Doesn't have anything to do with Jenny or licensing fees...but i'm surprised that Em has that much control over Weird Al's parodies..
Eminem Won't Allow Weird Al Video

NEW YORK (AP) - Eminem may poke fun at himself in videos, but he doesn't want "Weird Al'' Yankovic doing it.

Eminem won't give Yankovic permission to shoot a video for his new song, "Couch Potato,'' a parody of Eminem's Oscar-winning tune "Lose Yourself,'' Yankovic said.

"The only reason I could glean was that making a Weird Al music video would detract from his legacy as a serious hip-hop artist,'' Yankovic said Thursday. "It's very disappointing. This could have been my best video ever.''

A representative for Eminem did not immediately return a call Friday.

Eminem parodies himself and other celebrities in some of his most famous videos, including "Without Me,'' where he depicts himself as a fat Elvis Presley.

Artists who have allowed Yankovic to parody their songs and videos over the years include Michael Jackson - whose hits "Beat It'' and "Bad,'' became "Eat It'' and "Fat'' - and Madonna, whose "Like a Virgin'' became "Like A Surgeon.''

Yankovic said the rapper allowed Yankovic to redo the theme song from the hit movie "8 Mile,'' but said he would need to hear the final mix before granting the video rights. After receiving the final version of the parody - which pokes fun at television addicts - the rapper's representatives said he would not allow a video.

"We started preproduction on (the video) already, because we just assumed that there wouldn't a problem,'' Yankovic said.

Yankovic said Eminem also refused to allow him to release the song as a commercial single. It's the first cut on his 11th album, "Poodle Hat,'' which also parodies songs by Avril Lavigne and rapper Nelly. It's due out May 20 on Way Moby/Volcano Records.

Although Yankovic says he's grateful to Eminem for allowing him to parody his song, he's still lamenting what would have been his "most ambitious'' video ever - heady words, coming from a man who dressed up like Jackson in a fat suit for the video "Fat.''

"You'll just have to listen to the song and close your eyes and imagine what might have been,'' chuckled Yankovic.
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J-lo in a flashdance remake? This is terrific news.
Old 05-09-03 | 11:49 PM
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I stay away from anything with JLo in it.

I have heard ENOUGH of this stupid nonsense already.
Old 05-10-03 | 04:42 AM
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Doesn't have anything to do with Jenny or licensing fees...but i'm surprised that Em has that much control over Weird Al's parodies..
The artists themselves have quite a bit of control over whether their song can be parodied or not. And if it is parodied then they get a cut in sales.

In the Eminem situation, he allowed Weird Al to do the song but not the video.

In the past, Weird Al has been accused of parodying a song without permission, as in the case with Coolio's "Gangsta's Paradise." (Personally, Coolio may not have agreed to the parody, but apparently his management did--probably with dollar signs in their eyes.)

I don't think Weird Al wants to be in that position again.
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I can appreciate that you guys don't like Jennifer Lopez, I'm not much of a fan myself. but the point of this thread is that I can't believe the record co. had to pay a royalty on a parody. I think it's BS.
That argument would hold if you decide to forget that it wasn't a parody at all. J-Lo doesn't satirize or spoof the Flashdance bits. She redoes them. In that case, it is pretty evident that the laws protecting parodies don't apply. Otherwise, any unimaginative director could just redo other films shot for shot without paying credit to their original creators.

I mean, come on! Do you really want to live in a world where Stephen Sommers could simply reshoot The Good, the bad and the ugly with Brendan Fraser as Clint Eastwood, Mark Whalberg as Eli Wallach and Stephen Baldwin as Lee Van Cleef?


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