Why didn't I like Minority Report?
02-24-03, 07:18 PM
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Why didn't I like Minority Report?
I can't quite put my finger on it.
It was a gorgeous film (lighting and cinematography), it was well cast and populated with interesting characters, I enjoyed the technology in it, it was plot twisty (I like twisty), but I ended up with a blah feeling towards it.
The only things that come to mind are the jarring elements: plot holes/devices and truly out of place hokey dialog the ejected me from the film. I've just started reading the debate on whether or not the ending was
and while that may or may not help the film overall, it doesn't remove the blah from my experience.
Anyone else have a similar experience with it?
It was a gorgeous film (lighting and cinematography), it was well cast and populated with interesting characters, I enjoyed the technology in it, it was plot twisty (I like twisty), but I ended up with a blah feeling towards it.
The only things that come to mind are the jarring elements: plot holes/devices and truly out of place hokey dialog the ejected me from the film. I've just started reading the debate on whether or not the ending was
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Anyone else have a similar experience with it?
) could either shoot Anderton and be arrested while pre-crime continues, or he could NOT shoot him and not be arrested but Pre-Crime would be shut down. And he chooses to shoot himself, killing himself and the future of Pre-Crime. He has two win-lose choices and chooses the lose-lose. Hmmmmmm.........)
02-24-03, 07:39 PM
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It was hard to watch the movie from the very beginning, everything that was going on with the pre-crime, would never be allowed to happen. And spielburg has got to lay off the melodrama.
It is a watchable movie, but the majority of it was unnecessary.
It is a watchable movie, but the majority of it was unnecessary.
02-24-03, 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by PaperStreetSoapCo
You didn't like it 'cuz it sucks.
You didn't like it 'cuz it sucks.
The stuff in your spoiler box bugged me but not hugely. I guess it comes down to the large number of plot holes/devices that added up to an ultimately unsatisfactory experience.
Kind of a bummer, because it was a neat looking film with an interesting story.
02-24-03, 07:52 PM
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I found that the more I watch it the more I make connections and fill in plot holes that may or may not be there.
Anyway, the more I watch it, the more it makes sense, and the more I like it. I can't really explain why that is. Maybe I'm trying too hard to like it. I don't know.
Anyway, the more I watch it, the more it makes sense, and the more I like it. I can't really explain why that is. Maybe I'm trying too hard to like it. I don't know.
02-24-03, 11:35 PM
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If you are going into a film looking for plot holes, then you will definitely not like the movie.
I enjoyed "Minority Report" for what it is worth.
I enjoyed "Minority Report" for what it is worth.
02-25-03, 01:07 AM
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Hmmmm….I thought Minority Report was easily Spielberg’s best movie in ages…the set design and cinematography brought to life a believable and compelling universe, rich in detail and texture. The characters were well developed, almost multi-dimensional. And the story held my interest. Like Saving Private Ryan, I sat enthralled for the first 20 minutes or so as Spielberg established the premise and set the tempo. I was hooked. But by the end, I felt cold, unsatisfied; wishing someone else directed the feature.
Beyond the plot holes a number of things bothered me.
Believe me; I want to like this movie. I’ve seen it 3 times; sadly, I can’t and doubt I ever will.
Beyond the plot holes a number of things bothered me.
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Believe me; I want to like this movie. I’ve seen it 3 times; sadly, I can’t and doubt I ever will.
02-25-03, 07:49 AM
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I liked it. One of the best movies from 2002. Been watching the DVD over and over recently.
Movies bound to have some plot holes, you just gotta live with it somehow. I just liked the art design and how it was prsented in the movie...so immersive. And the track that plays whenever Anderton thinks about his son is great, its cold and melancolic.
Movies bound to have some plot holes, you just gotta live with it somehow. I just liked the art design and how it was prsented in the movie...so immersive. And the track that plays whenever Anderton thinks about his son is great, its cold and melancolic.
02-25-03, 07:54 AM
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One thing I've noticed about this forum: if somebody doesn't like a film, they'll nitpick the plot holes to death. But if they enjoyed it, they're more than willing to overlook them. And sometimes folks WANT to hate movie because of who's involved, so they go in with a checklist and try to pull out as many holes as possible to pick at.
02-25-03, 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
One thing I've noticed about this forum: if somebody doesn't like a film, they'll nitpick the plot holes to death. But if they enjoyed it, they're more than willing to overlook them. And sometimes folks WANT to hate movie because of who's involved, so they go in with a checklist and try to pull out as many holes as possible to pick at.
One thing I've noticed about this forum: if somebody doesn't like a film, they'll nitpick the plot holes to death. But if they enjoyed it, they're more than willing to overlook them. And sometimes folks WANT to hate movie because of who's involved, so they go in with a checklist and try to pull out as many holes as possible to pick at.
02-25-03, 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
One thing I've noticed about this forum: if somebody doesn't like a film, they'll nitpick the plot holes to death. But if they enjoyed it, they're more than willing to overlook them. And sometimes folks WANT to hate movie because of who's involved, so they go in with a checklist and try to pull out as many holes as possible to pick at.
One thing I've noticed about this forum: if somebody doesn't like a film, they'll nitpick the plot holes to death. But if they enjoyed it, they're more than willing to overlook them. And sometimes folks WANT to hate movie because of who's involved, so they go in with a checklist and try to pull out as many holes as possible to pick at.
02-25-03, 11:57 AM
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I didn't go in with an axe to grind against SS or TC, I don't care much about the plot holes, and I really enjoyed it for a long time. But the ending RUINED this movie for me. If you're a believer in the
, I think you're projecting the ending you wanted onto the pedestrian ending we get. I repeat, it RUINED this movie for me.
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02-25-03, 12:07 PM
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Groucho, I agree 100%.
The thing is, there's nothing wrong with being really critical, I'm really critical and there's a lot of films I object to, but I would never use a checklist of plot holes as my explanation of why I didn't like the film. Yet people do this all the time. If you're not going to like the film you need better reasons as to why you didn't like it than it defyed some law of physics. Over in a thread about Starship Troopers some guy said he hated the movie because he objected to the millitary strategy, that the ships would never align themselves w/ the planet with their hulls exposed or some stupid s**t. And THATS why he didn't like the film. Now that's just silly. It might indeed be a bad film, but that's not why it's bad.
The thing is, there's nothing wrong with being really critical, I'm really critical and there's a lot of films I object to, but I would never use a checklist of plot holes as my explanation of why I didn't like the film. Yet people do this all the time. If you're not going to like the film you need better reasons as to why you didn't like it than it defyed some law of physics. Over in a thread about Starship Troopers some guy said he hated the movie because he objected to the millitary strategy, that the ships would never align themselves w/ the planet with their hulls exposed or some stupid s**t. And THATS why he didn't like the film. Now that's just silly. It might indeed be a bad film, but that's not why it's bad.
02-25-03, 12:30 PM
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Re: Why didn't I like Minority Report?
Originally posted by CheapBastid
The only things that come to mind are the jarring elements: plot holes/devices and truly out of place hokey dialog the ejected me from the film. I've just started reading the debate on whether or not the ending was
and while that may or may not help the film overall, it doesn't remove the blah from my experience.
The only things that come to mind are the jarring elements: plot holes/devices and truly out of place hokey dialog the ejected me from the film. I've just started reading the debate on whether or not the ending was
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02-25-03, 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Groucho
One thing I've noticed about this forum: if somebody doesn't like a film, they'll nitpick the plot holes to death. But if they enjoyed it, they're more than willing to overlook them. And sometimes folks WANT to hate movie because of who's involved, so they go in with a checklist and try to pull out as many holes as possible to pick at.
One thing I've noticed about this forum: if somebody doesn't like a film, they'll nitpick the plot holes to death. But if they enjoyed it, they're more than willing to overlook them. And sometimes folks WANT to hate movie because of who's involved, so they go in with a checklist and try to pull out as many holes as possible to pick at.
I also realize that movies have but a few short minutes to capture one’s attention. Mood, attitude, and other factors can play a role in one’s experience. That is why, if a movie has any redeeming qualities at all, I will usually watch it again to see if another day will different yield result.
02-25-03, 09:41 PM
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I liked it, but I could have lived without the square-up reel at the end. Not every story deserves to have a standard hollywood ending.
I saw nothing whatsoever to suggest that
I saw nothing whatsoever to suggest that
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02-25-03, 11:20 PM
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In my case it's not so much that I didnt like the movie - it was an ok rental at best. For me it more the fact that the last good rollercoaster movie that Spielberg has done was Jurassic Park. Winning the Schindlers List oscar and having kids has dulled his edge.
Stack his 90's work up against his 70's and 80's work. Jaws vs AI. Close Encounters vs Minority Report. Hell - even a dud like 1941 and/or Temple of Doom against his modern stuff stacks up hundreds of times better. It's like he goes with the 'safe' movies now, that he's lost the Eye of the Tiger.
It makes me wish that Duel would come out on disc that much sooner.
Stack his 90's work up against his 70's and 80's work. Jaws vs AI. Close Encounters vs Minority Report. Hell - even a dud like 1941 and/or Temple of Doom against his modern stuff stacks up hundreds of times better. It's like he goes with the 'safe' movies now, that he's lost the Eye of the Tiger.
It makes me wish that Duel would come out on disc that much sooner.
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02-26-03, 01:55 PM
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I went in expecting a fun, entertaining movie with a relatively interesting plot, not a "Spielberg masterpiece". I think that's why I enjoyed it a lot, and would have otherwise been disappointed.