First DareDevil Review
02-04-03 | 06:01 PM
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Having read another review at comingsoon.net, they have RUINED the DD and Elektra characters!
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02-04-03 | 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by Dr. DVD
[B]Having read another review at comingsoon.net, they have RUINED the DD and Elektra characters!
[B]Having read another review at comingsoon.net, they have RUINED the DD and Elektra characters!
Funny how literary adaptations don't get as hammered as mere comic book adaptations.
02-04-03 | 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by clemente
Now there's a comment we haven't heard on the heels of a comic book movie being released.
Funny how literary adaptations don't get as hammered as mere comic book adaptations.
Now there's a comment we haven't heard on the heels of a comic book movie being released.
Funny how literary adaptations don't get as hammered as mere comic book adaptations.
Comics are meant as light entertainment for the most part, so no need to change them to make them moreso. Books can be heavy and need a little more watering down for the average viewer.
02-04-03 | 06:48 PM
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Here is another positive review...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/...e=1&rid=838967
I'm still not not pumped about this one yet. The trailers don't get me excited at all. Maybe that is a good thing.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/...e=1&rid=838967
I'm still not not pumped about this one yet. The trailers don't get me excited at all. Maybe that is a good thing.
02-04-03 | 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Literature is more difficult to adapt. Comic books are light fantasy with an already existing visual medium to understand. Books require an approach from square one, while comics are already a few steps ahead. Basically, a comic book should be much easier to adapt directly than a book. (And less a hassle.)
Comics are meant as light entertainment for the most part, so no need to change them to make them moreso. Books can be heavy and need a little more watering down for the average viewer.
Literature is more difficult to adapt. Comic books are light fantasy with an already existing visual medium to understand. Books require an approach from square one, while comics are already a few steps ahead. Basically, a comic book should be much easier to adapt directly than a book. (And less a hassle.)
Comics are meant as light entertainment for the most part, so no need to change them to make them moreso. Books can be heavy and need a little more watering down for the average viewer.
Because comics are visual doesn't make them easier to adapt...what looks great in a comic pin-up looks utterly riduculous in a film...take every costume ever filmed.
Not so in the literary world...the writer tries to give the viewer a path to follow in creating the world in his/her own mind. When I first read Jurassic Park, I didn't picture Alan Grant as Sam Niell, but hey it worked. Steven Mark Johnson announces Ben Affleck as Daredevil and even Ben Affleck's mom doesn't like the choice because he doesn't look like what Frank Miller thought he looked like 20 years ago.
40 years of storyline, lore, and myth isn't an advantage, but a major disadvantage.
02-05-03 | 02:11 PM
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Literature is more difficult to adapt, my a$$. Yeah, you have a book...for instance, Of Mice and Men, where two nomadic guys are roaming the countryside looking for work. One has a brain defective and a knack for being a baby and accidentally snapping necks. Relatively easy movie to make, given the fact that there is no definitave mental image that rises from the page, and there are certain liberties you can take with scenes/characters because of this.
In comics, say X-Men, you have to do scenes where Magneto flies through the air carrying a boat, while Cyclops is firing lazers from his eyes and a 20 story-tall robot crashes through the forest. There are pictures in these stories, you must be true to the characters and you must make it look realistic. You are constrained to the mental image that most aficionados already have.
Something tells me that literature is at best as difficult, at worst far easier.
In comics, say X-Men, you have to do scenes where Magneto flies through the air carrying a boat, while Cyclops is firing lazers from his eyes and a 20 story-tall robot crashes through the forest. There are pictures in these stories, you must be true to the characters and you must make it look realistic. You are constrained to the mental image that most aficionados already have.
Something tells me that literature is at best as difficult, at worst far easier.
02-05-03 | 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by DVDjunkie78
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I'm still not not pumped about this one yet. The trailers don't get me excited at all. Maybe that is a good thing.
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I'm still not not pumped about this one yet. The trailers don't get me excited at all. Maybe that is a good thing.
however i do remember times i was highly skeptical of something, while like-minded people were giving it great prerelease-reviews. i went and it ended up being what i had expected all along.
to this day i'm confused about what it was others had seen in it in the first place that i couldn't find.
as far as costumes go- would it have been that much of a stretch to change Elektras leather costume to a deep red instead of the cliched and boring black standard? and would it have been that unrealistic to slap a bandana on her head? why this totally distinctive and unique element of asthetic charicterization was eliminated is beyond me.
if she had worn one, and the movie was as dramatically as sucsesful as all these reviews are saying, it might have started a new fashion trend.
02-05-03 | 03:24 PM
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I'm cautiously optimistic.
I'm going to have to wait to see what changes to Daredevil and Elektra's characters Mark Steven Johnson has made before I can say whether they are good or bad.
I'm going to have to wait to see what changes to Daredevil and Elektra's characters Mark Steven Johnson has made before I can say whether they are good or bad.
02-07-03 | 10:02 AM
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Saw this flick today and it rocked!!! I am a fan of Daredevil and was ready to rip into it if they dissed ’Ol Horn Head too badly but this can take it’s place alongside Batman Returns, Spider Man and X Men as one of the best comic to screen adaptations. Kudos to the director for pulling this off. I’ll do a fuller review later
02-07-03 | 11:23 AM
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The thing is that books, comics and movies are different medium.
Neither books or comics are necessarily hard to adapt, but rather hard to adapt to please fans of the original.
Changes have to be made. Peter Jackson made some changes that irked some fans of the LOTR book. But in the end who cares, the vastly larger number of people who never read the book (as well as likely a good majority of those who did) love the films.
The sames true with comics. Some fanboys will get on the net and bash X-men because woverine isn't in yellow spandex, but again why should the director care? Most people have never read an X-men comic, or could care less about the changes, as shown by the movie making a lot of money.
Basically neither books nor comics are hard to adapt as long as the directors say "screw what the small minority of fanboys of the original source material think" and just make the best possible film adaptation of the material.
Neither books or comics are necessarily hard to adapt, but rather hard to adapt to please fans of the original.
Changes have to be made. Peter Jackson made some changes that irked some fans of the LOTR book. But in the end who cares, the vastly larger number of people who never read the book (as well as likely a good majority of those who did) love the films.
The sames true with comics. Some fanboys will get on the net and bash X-men because woverine isn't in yellow spandex, but again why should the director care? Most people have never read an X-men comic, or could care less about the changes, as shown by the movie making a lot of money.
Basically neither books nor comics are hard to adapt as long as the directors say "screw what the small minority of fanboys of the original source material think" and just make the best possible film adaptation of the material.
02-09-03 | 11:57 PM
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Warning!! Major Spoiler!!
You can read the entire part 4 of the interview here...
Comics2film.com interview with Mark Steven Johnson
Spoiler:
You can read the entire part 4 of the interview here...
Comics2film.com interview with Mark Steven Johnson
02-10-03 | 12:30 PM
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Though I read a few comics growing up, I was never a Daredevil aficionado. It's not that I didn't like the storyline, but my allowance only went so far, therefore I concentrated on the X-Men universe. Needless to say, I think the film looks good from what I can tell and I am glad that my viewing experience won't be tainted by comparing it to the comic every five seconds. For all of you Daredevil fans out there that haven't seen it yet, keep an open mind, enjoy, and judge the film on its own merits.
