DVD Talk Forum

DVD Talk Forum (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/)
-   Movie Talk (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk-17/)
-   -   Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever.. (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/262515-just-watched-back-future-trilogy-first-time-ever.html)

PacMan2006 01-08-03 08:39 PM

Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 
I know this may belong somewhere else but I think is is okay here, too.

I gotta say, I was impressed. I really enjoyed it. I loved how it felt like one big movie adventure instead of just the original, then sequels totally separate like I expected.

I saw the first film about six months ago and liked it. Today I rented part 2 and 3. I was pretty blown away by 2. It was genius to me. I really liked the overlap of a new movie blended with the original. Great idea. Part 3...to me, definitely not the best but it was still enjoyable due to the original characters.

I just have one question about part 3...why did Marty feel the need in 1955 to go back to get the Doc from 1885 and bring him back to 1985? Since he had the "other" Doc from 1955 (who helped him travel back to the old west), why not just get into the Delorean together and travel back from 1955 to 1985?

Either way, I enjoyed the series and probably will buy it sometime in the future (no pun intended, truly).

Kal-El 01-08-03 08:50 PM

Well, the 1955 Doc Brown belonged in THAT time period. However, the Doc in 1855 is supposed to be the Doc in 1985. It's one of those time paradox thingies.

karnblack 01-08-03 08:58 PM

Huh huh...he said pair a Docs...huh huh...

Seantn 01-08-03 09:18 PM

He WAS going to leave doc in 1855, but then he discovered that only days after writing that letter to Marty, doc was murdered. Marty wanted to prevent docs murder, so that's why he went back in time again.

PacMan2006 01-08-03 10:39 PM

Hey guys, I don't remember the first film that well. So help me out a little here...

Isn't the 1955 Doc, who helped send Marty back to 1985 in the first movie, the SAME Doc who came back at the end of part 1 and whisked him away to the future and all the craziness that became part II? Therefore, when they eventually traveled back to 1955 (in part II, and both Doc's encountered each other but didn't see each other face to face), isn't the "1955 Doc" truly the 1985 Doc, only right before he traveled BACK to 1985 from 1955?

If so, then I dont understand why the 1955 Doc belonged in 1955. Because, if I remember correctly, the 1955 Doc was originally in 1985 when him and Marty went back in time in the first film.

jaeufraser 01-08-03 11:07 PM

The 1985 doc was the one at the end of BTTF1 who takes them off to the future. They go through their adventures, then both of them end back up in 1955. From there, 1985 doc gets zapped back to 1885 or something, and marty and 1955 doc are left. They send Marty back, story finishes off in part 3.

LBPound 01-08-03 11:35 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 

Originally posted by PacMan2006
I was pretty blown away by 2. It was genius to me. I really liked the overlap of a new movie blended with the original. Great idea. Part 3...to me, definitely not the best but it was still enjoyable due to the original characters.
I agree with your assessment entirely. BTTF II is probably the most inspired sequel I've ever seen. To me, it's nearly as good as the original, loses some points to being overly silly with the future stuff, but it's all in good fun. (It ticks me off to think Part II would have been EVEN better if they devoted full energies to editing it instead of editing as a secondary project to filming the inferior Part III).

Seems like they were so clever on the first sequel, that the third film was just a "Let's do a Back to the Future in the Wild Wild West." All the characters and situations will be the same...but it will be a western.

Very few moments of inspiration there, but still highly watchable because of Michael J. Fox (the one playing Marty McFly, anyway) and because the characters are familiar.

Ranger 01-09-03 01:50 AM

Oh, I'm so confused! :)

Great trilogy, indeed! :up:

UAIOE 01-09-03 03:16 AM

As i have always said Part 2 + 3 were supposed to be a single movie but had to split up for budget reasons.

So there is BTTF 1

BTTF 2

& BTTF 2 part 2 :D

If i remember correctly the orginal title for BTTF 2 was "Paradox: Back to the Future 2" and it was 2+3 combined.

GuessWho 01-09-03 07:06 AM

'85 Doc and '85 Marty are the only* time travelers.


'55 Doc never leaves.




*(not counting '85 Einstein, '85 Jennifer and 2015 Biff)

LBPound 01-09-03 03:29 PM


Originally posted by UAIOE
As i have always said Part 2 + 3 were supposed to be a single movie but had to split up for budget reasons.

So there is BTTF 1

BTTF 2

& BTTF 2 part 2 :D

If i remember correctly the orginal title for BTTF 2 was "Paradox: Back to the Future 2" and it was 2+3 combined.

Yeah, you can see in the Making-of Material, signs on the set for 2 say "Paradox", that was the working title.

And I think it's more like there's BTTF 1, BTTF 2, and BTTF 2 Crapified. :D

LBPound 01-09-03 03:31 PM


Originally posted by GuessWho
'85 Doc and '85 Marty are the only* time travelers.


'55 Doc never leaves.




*(not counting '85 Einstein, '85 Jennifer and 2015 Biff)

And don't forget Cole:

<img src="http://www.movieweb.com/movie/12monkeys/co5s.jpg">

Groucho 01-09-03 03:35 PM

My main complaint about the series is that they should have ended Part 2 with Marty stranded in 1955, before he gets the telegram. That would have been one hell of a cliffhanger.

Goat3001 01-09-03 03:50 PM


Originally posted by Groucho
My main complaint about the series is that they should have ended Part 2 with Marty stranded in 1955, before he gets the telegram. That would have been one hell of a cliffhanger.
I was just thinking that :up:

cooper2000 01-09-03 05:24 PM

Glad you liked the movie. Ive held off on getting the DVDs even though I really really want them due to the framing problem.
I hear in the Special features they finally tell why they replaced the first girl with Elizabeth Shu. Can anyone tell me why?

DarthMarino 01-10-03 01:51 AM


Originally posted by cooper2000
Glad you liked the movie. Ive held off on getting the DVDs even though I really really want them due to the framing problem.
I hear in the Special features they finally tell why they replaced the first girl with Elizabeth Shu. Can anyone tell me why?

I believe a member of her family died and she decided to quit acting for a while as she was in no mental shape to do so.

PacMan2006 01-10-03 03:02 AM

One more thing, anyone know when they plan to fix the framing problem and ship out new batches of DVD's?

UAIOE 01-10-03 04:04 AM


Originally posted by LBPound
And I think it's more like there's BTTF 1, BTTF 2, and BTTF 2 Crapified. :D
I always found Part 3 to be interesting because the time period they ended up in was one where if the time machine breaks down (or as in the movie, loses its gas) you're pretty much screwed.

Going back 30 years, you still have gasoline, cruder electronics or other cars to canibalize parts from. The only thing that was not avaible in Part 1 for the car was the 1.21 jigowatts.

Part 2 took care of the fission reactor with the Mr. Fusion...so powering the time circuits wasnt a problem....Part three addressed the issue of what happens when the car itself cannot perform its functions.

Its an issue i am glad was brought up in the 3rd movie. What happens when you time travel to a time where you cannot fix your broken machine? It also addressed the fatal flaw of the Delorean...that it was dependent on gasoline to run.

I like Part 3 because Marty trying to get home is a more difficult task to accomplish in the 3rd movie than it is in the 1st.

GuessWho 01-10-03 10:17 AM


Originally posted by PacMan2006
One more thing, anyone know when they plan to fix the framing problem and ship out new batches of DVD's?
Hotline says late-Feb is the expected replacement disc shipping time. No idea when new box sets will be in stores.

peejnyc007 01-10-03 05:50 PM

Catch phrases & concepts introduced into pop culture in 1985,
as a result of BTTF's popularity at the time:

"Hello.... Anybody home?? Think, McFly!!" :whofart:

"Butt-head" :whofart:

"Heavy...!" -confused-

Calvin Klein underwear :D

and of course,

Huey Lewis and The News. :cool:

peej

DVD DVD DVD 01-11-03 12:06 PM

Now at the end of Part 3, where did the Doc get the parts from to build his time travel train? He was stuck in 1885 after Marty left.

JimRochester 01-11-03 12:14 PM

I know allot of people were disappointed with 3. It wasn't as good as the first two but definately brought some more humor back into the mix.

GoldenJCJ 01-12-03 12:15 AM


Originally posted by DVD DVD DVD
Now at the end of Part 3, where did the Doc get the parts from to build his time travel train? He was stuck in 1885 after Marty left.
My question is why did Doc build the new time machine after he spent the last two movies bitching and moaning about how dangerous time travel was and how he wanted the delorean destroyed.

Jackskeleton 01-12-03 01:23 AM

I always questioned the title of the first..

Back to the future?

Huh? I must have missed something cause Marty didn't go to the future, he went to the past, and then when they sent him back to his time it was his "PRESENT" so I never saw how "Back to the future" could be the correct phrase. ;)

:p

Then the second, they never went to the future to begin with, so how could they go BACK to it? The third just justifies the theory some more. they went Back to the past.

Most misleading title EVER! i canceled my pre-order... ;)

UAIOE 01-12-03 01:25 AM


Originally posted by DVD DVD DVD
Now at the end of Part 3, where did the Doc get the parts from to build his time travel train? He was stuck in 1885 after Marty left.

I guess he built some crude time travel circuits with 1890's technology. Maybe he built the time traveling to be pure mechanical?

Yeah i said 1890's technology. Because it would have taken him that long to figure out how to make the damn thing and it also takes into consideration Jules & Verne.

UAIOE 01-12-03 01:27 AM


Originally posted by Jackskeleton
I always questioned the title of the first..

Back to the future?

Huh? I must have missed something cause Marty didn't go to the future, he went to the past, and then when they sent him back to his time it was his "PRESENT" so I never saw how "Back to the future" could be the correct phrase. ;)

:p

Then the second, they never went to the future to begin with, so how could they go BACK to it? The third just justifies the theory some more. they went Back to the past.

Most misleading title EVER! i canceled my pre-order... ;)


Worst post ever!!!!


;)

PacMan2006 01-12-03 01:30 AM

Jack, When he was in the past, he had to go back to the future to get to his present. If he's in the past, that means Marty's present it also technically in the future.

Another thing I want to point out, I thought the special effects and superimposing of two characters who were played by the same actor were implemented REALLY well for a movie that is...what....ten years old, right? I was really surprised that it held up so well.

PacMan2006 05-01-12 04:00 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 
I wanted to bump this thread to ask a specific question after rewatching these movies for the first time since I created this thread in 2003.

For those old enough to have seen the trilogy in the theaters in the 80s...what was the overall impression of how BTTF2 presented 2015? Did you watch it thinking it was over the top and silly? Did you think a lot of what was on-screen might be possible in the future? Or did you just enjoy the imagination of Zemeckis' 2015, but didn't have a definitive opinion either way?

Also, I've only seen these movies twice each now, but really, really enjoyed them. I was too young to have any memory of these whatsoever (born in 83), but I can tell that this is one trilogy I sort of wish I was old enough to have experienced in the theater. In fact, my nostalgia with BTTF is much more tied to the Universal Studios ride, which I *LOVED* for years without having seen a single frame of BTTF. So I'm sort of experiencing these films in a backwards order, but loving the creativity and energy they had regardless.

And I think the effects still hold up quite well, actually, especially in how the multiple Marty's interacted and with each other.

E Unit 05-01-12 04:07 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 

Originally Posted by PacMan2006 (Post 11214396)
I wanted to bump this thread to ask a specific question after rewatching these movies for the first time since I created this thread in 2003.

For those old enough to have seen the trilogy in the theaters in the 80s...what was the overall impression of how BTTF2 presented 2015? Did you watch it thinking it was over the top and silly? Did you think a lot of what was on-screen might be possible in the future? Or did you just enjoy the imagination of Zemeckis' 2015, but didn't have a definitive opinion either way?


Damn, now that is quite a thread bump.


As a child who grew up in the 80's, I distinctly remember for the most part a lot of what we saw on screen was so damn cool and were just excited that this was what would be coming to us in the future. Fuck you very much Zemeckis. I jest...a little. I was too young to appreciate that it was his vision of the future, from plausible to silly, but now when watching it with my kid (as I first showed her a few weekends ago), I have to really hand it to Speilberg and Zemeckis for giving us what is arguably one of the most iconic film (and sequels to an extent) in Hollywood history.

And your comment about being more tied to the ride than the movies just freaked me out. I totally forgot there was even a ride (never been on it), so for you to be tied to that more than the movies is pretty out there. Maybe in time, you'll be more inclined to be tied to the movies. Especially the first one.

iggystar 05-01-12 04:14 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 
I was in my late teens during BTTF2. I can't recall how plausible I felt 2015 was presented, but I knew we'd be getting a hoverboard by 2015!

We have three years yet!

Jules Winfield 05-01-12 05:18 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 
I was ten so the vision of 2015 seemed plausible to me but then I also didn't really give it any thought.

P.S.-I'm dissappointed we're not gonna make it to Jaws 19 by 2015.:(

kgrogers1979 05-01-12 05:35 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 
Some of the things the movie did get right. The scene where Marty plays the Hogan's Alley arcade game, and some kids laugh and call it a baby's toy because you have to use your hands... well there are video games now that are played without using your hands.

resinrats 05-01-12 05:55 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 
There are some companies purposly making stuff from BTTF2. The Power Laces have been made & Mattel is putting out a Hoverboard replica.

Crocker Jarmen 05-01-12 06:09 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 
I was really facsinated by the future stuff in part II. I would have been 10 or 11 back in '89, so 2015 seemed really far in the future. It was significanly further away than I had been alive, so I couldn't even imagine how far it was, it might as well have been 75 years.

I liked that things didn't seem too far out. I thought it was a realistic, reasonable projection :lol: Surely been then there would be hover cars and mechanical clothing and dehydrated food.

I also seem to recall the general feeling when the movie came out was people were disappointed. I remember the audience groaning at the "To Be Continued" at the end and going WTF when the trailer for Part 3 started playing before the end credits. I thought it was fantastic, and for the first time felt smarter then my father who didn't understand the timelines between 2015 and the alternate 1985.

I still love this movie. It really is a special sequel. As well as being funny, inventive and exciting, it is also a wonderful parody of movie serquel. Often a sequel to a popular movie tries to engender good will by winking back to the first one; repeating jokes, brining back characters... and in Part 2 they literally go back to those famous scenes from the first one. Wonderful stuff.

Infact, looking over this thread really makes me want to watch one of these movies again right now.

TheBang 05-01-12 06:44 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 
Reading this thread made me go back and watch the creepy kid from Part 3:


Greg MacGuffin 05-01-12 07:04 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 
The only thing that sort of bugs me is how old and decrepit Future Marty and Future Jennifer look. I haven't seen it in a few years, but the last time I watched it I remember thinking they really overdid the old-age makeup.

Michael Corvin 05-01-12 07:56 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 
^ Maybe but you're taking two 18 year olds and making them 48. I think they did okay.

My Other Self 05-01-12 08:11 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 

Originally Posted by Jeffy Pop (Post 11214675)
The only thing that sort of bugs me is how old and decrepit Future Marty and Future Jennifer look. I haven't seen it in a few years, but the last time I watched it I remember thinking they really overdid the old-age makeup.

They were both 47. They looked right for the age. I always liked the line in the alley after the cops found 1985-Jennifer:

"47?! That's a hell of a good face-lift!"

I didn't "get in to" the BTTF Trilogy until the mid-90s. I got on sort of a kick somehow, and the first thing I got was a BTTF Part II tape at a flea market. I don't remember being particularly wowed, but this was only say 6 or 7 years after BTTF2 was theatrically released. Needless to say I've been a pretty obsessive fan since, but since I wasn't born until 1986 I don't have any first hand memories.

I've always wanted to go to a "Back to Back to Back" screening that pops up from time to time. Last one was in 2006 in LA to benefit MJF's Parkinson's Foundation. That seems like it'd be fun. I did get to see the first one on the big screen twice -- once in a retro screening with an original 1985 print and again during the theatrical re-release in October 2010.

kgrogers1979 05-01-12 08:54 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 

Originally Posted by mcfly (Post 11214771)
They were both 47. They looked right for the age.

Its not even close. They look like they are in their late 60s in the movie, not their late 40s.

What they looked like in Back to the Future at age 47:

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/850...ureiisnap6.png


Michael J Fox in 2011 (age 50):

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3...eljfox2011.jpg


Elisabeth Shue in 2007 (age 44):

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1756/shue2007.jpg

My Other Self 05-01-12 09:03 PM

Re: Just Watched "Back to the Future" Trilogy for the First Time Ever..
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11214822)
Its not even close. They look like they are in their late 60s in the movie, not their late 40s.

Your attempt to correct me failed. That's Michael J. Fox (who looks like a hard-worked 47-year old) and Lea Thompson, not Elisabeth Shue. :lol:

The character of Marty was in a car accident in 1985 which in no doubt played in to effect on his future self. He wasn't able to continue a music career which, according to Bob Gale, had led the character in to a depression and a rough relationship for him and Jennifer. That, along with working a shitty job, two loser children, and being a wuss his whole life.. has him aged about right.

Look, I'm not going to explain all the ins and outs and all that annoying fanboy shit like you do but stop trying so damn hard to be fucking correct about everything.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:45 PM.


Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.