Kevin Smith and "Superman Lives"-great story behind a film that never was!
12-31-02, 08:58 AM
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Kevin Smith and "Superman Lives"-great story behind a film that never was!
I have read Kevin Smith's script for Superman Lives and thought it was good but that some stuff was rather forced.
Last night I saw the portion of the Evening with Kevin Smith DVD that dealt with that incident. IMO, it pretty much says everything that is wrong with the Hollywood system and how it approached major franchises and projects. If you haven't seen it, I recommend you at least rent the DVD to see it, and enjoy the rest of the talk because it is very funny.
Apparently producer Jon Peters thought that he and Smith were right for the job because they were "from the streets". Smith thought this awkward because he was from suburban N.J. and Peters was a hairdresser, but he wanted the job, so he stayed mum. I am sure the same thing has happened a lot of times in Hollywood.
Last night I saw the portion of the Evening with Kevin Smith DVD that dealt with that incident. IMO, it pretty much says everything that is wrong with the Hollywood system and how it approached major franchises and projects. If you haven't seen it, I recommend you at least rent the DVD to see it, and enjoy the rest of the talk because it is very funny.
Apparently producer Jon Peters thought that he and Smith were right for the job because they were "from the streets". Smith thought this awkward because he was from suburban N.J. and Peters was a hairdresser, but he wanted the job, so he stayed mum. I am sure the same thing has happened a lot of times in Hollywood.
12-31-02, 09:31 AM
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Re: Kevin Smith and "Superman Lives"-great story behind a film that never was!
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
I have read Kevin Smith's script for Superman Lives and thought it was good but that some stuff was rather forced.
I have read Kevin Smith's script for Superman Lives and thought it was good but that some stuff was rather forced.
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12-31-02, 09:37 AM
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Re: Re: Kevin Smith and "Superman Lives"-great story behind a film that never was!
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Where did you find a copy of this script? I'd love to read it.
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Where did you find a copy of this script? I'd love to read it.
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12-31-02, 01:28 PM
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I read that script and it just struck me as awful, assuming it was really KS's script and not a fake. Cheesy dialogue, fake attempts to seem "hip" that'll be dated in five years, a plot that was just all over the place... I dunno, Superman just calls for the kind of majesty (IMHO) that Smith hasn't yet proved he's capable of to me. What I like about 1978's Superman is how little it's dated, the obvious fashion faux pas aside.
I am eager to hear his 'uncensored' thoughts on his involvement in the Superman 5 plans on the "Evening" DVD, though, I'm hoping to rent that soon.
I am eager to hear his 'uncensored' thoughts on his involvement in the Superman 5 plans on the "Evening" DVD, though, I'm hoping to rent that soon.
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12-31-02, 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Sierra Disc
I read that script and it just struck me as awful, assuming it was really KS's script and not a fake. Cheesy dialogue, fake attempts to seem "hip" that'll be dated in five years, a plot that was just all over the place... I dunno, Superman just calls for the kind of majesty (IMHO) that Smith hasn't yet proved he's capable of to me. What I like about 1978's Superman is how little it's dated, the obvious fashion faux pas aside.
I am eager to hear his 'uncensored' thoughts on his involvement in the Superman 5 plans on the "Evening" DVD, though, I'm hoping to rent that soon.
I read that script and it just struck me as awful, assuming it was really KS's script and not a fake. Cheesy dialogue, fake attempts to seem "hip" that'll be dated in five years, a plot that was just all over the place... I dunno, Superman just calls for the kind of majesty (IMHO) that Smith hasn't yet proved he's capable of to me. What I like about 1978's Superman is how little it's dated, the obvious fashion faux pas aside.
I am eager to hear his 'uncensored' thoughts on his involvement in the Superman 5 plans on the "Evening" DVD, though, I'm hoping to rent that soon.
12-31-02, 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by Dr. DVD
The DVD will clear up a lot of the problems you had with his script. Most of the attempts to look hip were in there at the request of Jon Peters, and Smith put them in reluctantly because he wanted to keep the job. (a "gay" robot, Brainiac fighting Polar Bears, the giant spider creature, etc.)
The DVD will clear up a lot of the problems you had with his script. Most of the attempts to look hip were in there at the request of Jon Peters, and Smith put them in reluctantly because he wanted to keep the job. (a "gay" robot, Brainiac fighting Polar Bears, the giant spider creature, etc.)
Yeeesh, it figures the spider creature and polar bears stuff were Jon Peters' idea. It's so awful that it's been years since I read the treatment and I still shudder at the gay robot stuff. That was pretty putrid -- of course, coming from the man who produced "Wild Wild West," "Bonfire Of The Vanities" and "Caddyshack II," I should expect greatness? 
