Well, you are all are clearly nuts as far as I'm concerned. But I realize some people will complain regardless. Please, show me the videogame that looks like that. I'd love to play it.



Yeah, that looks terrible. Videogames look better.

I was not impressed.

Yep, anyone who was complaining about the Spider-Man CGI, better keep their mouths shut on this one if that commercial is any indication of the finished product. Was that a tank that he was doing the Olympic-discus spin at the end? My anticipation of the movie just went down a couple of notches.

Looked great to me.

Heh, it's the Hulk, what do you expect? He's going to smash and throw things. It's what he is and it's what he does. If you don't find that sort of thing entertaining then I doubt any format/presentation of the Hulk character would be interesting to you.

I think it looks like a solid comic book movie.

I thought I was the only one. Honestly, I don't know what people think a 10 foot tall, green and one thousand pound humanoid creature with superhuman abilities is supposed to look like.

Oh well, to each his own I guess.

Terrell, I'm watching the Superbowl in HD, and almost all of the movie trailers were broadcast in 16X9 HD, but the Hulk was not. I'm not sure what Universal is doing, it could have been really awesome, like the Matrix trailer (for those of us watching in HD).

This is Spider-Man all over again. I'm not going to pass judgment on a movie based on a 30-second teaser.

Like I said, to each his own. I really can't believe some people are complaining. But I realize people complain based on the movie and whether they like it or not. Look at that pic I posted. That is a hi-res shot from the end trailer. Are you honestly saying that looks bad? That blows away any CGI charcter I've ever seen in terms of realism. Really, the only part that looks a bit rough is the scene with the tank. But since the effects are probably unfinished, I think it looks great. It looks like the Hulk. What did you expect him to look like, the jolly green giant?

Honestly, what did you expect from a Hulk movie?

Hulk, not man...me looking forward see Hulk anyway...

Exactly!

I watched it in HDTV and it was awesome. the hulk looked great to me. they got it right on the money. that was bad a$$ seeing him throw that tank. looks like a true comic book to movie adaptation. looks to be the movie of the summer. of course the matrix trailer rocked with neo taking on around 20 agents.

I liked it, oh well.

Those familiar with CG effects will know that a CG picture that's largely in shadow, which is not even composited into anything real-world is no definition of whether it will actually look good in motion, when composited into a real atmosphere.

Wathcing the commercial, the hulk didn't really look photorealistic to me. In other words, I could tell it was CG. It might be really complex, cool CG, but if I can tell it's CG it's not 'perfect'. It's not crap either, though.

Seamless CG is a very rare occurence, but for examples, I look at Jurassic Park (surprising due to the fact that it was one of the first attempts at organic CG textures), some creatures in LOTR (some were not), and sebulba in Episode II.

It's really hard to make completely photorealistic CG of human faces, because it's something we're so familiar with. Our brains are even sensitive enough to sometimes differentiate between two identical twins - that might be why people are being hard on HULK.

All in all, from what I saw, it wasn't the best, but it wasn't the worst either. It wasn't anything groundbreaking, though...

it's better on a 55" widescreen shown in HD.

I think some people might have expectations based on the
television show as opposed to the actual comic book. The
television show was never a very close interpretation of the comic
and the movie is looking much closer to the comic book Hulk.

I think that if people are expecting the Lou Ferrigno/Bill Bixby
type of Hulk, they'll be SOL. This is much more the "Hulk Smash"
version and I'm stoked and can't wait to see more.

Jason

you're so right. my point exactly.

most of the time, TV trailers always shows the worst effect for CGI than the actual show in theater (or final product)

i hope i'm right...

if not, this HULK thing is nothing but a joke...

if Peter jackson can make elfs really look that small... then Ang Lee needs to do his homework more seriously rather than completely depending on CGI HULK

sorry, but doing a character like Hulk, who smashes everything on screen, and a elf are not even in the same ballpark. Peter jackson is no god when it comes to CGI. The Hulk is very difficult because all his shots are involving action. after the matrix movies peter jackson will be taking notes from the W. brothers.

Do you mean the Hobbits that kept changing sizes? I think the
Elves were normal "human" size. But to echo one of the points
brought up earlier, even the flaws in some of the effects of the
LOTR movies, the story was the driving force making the movie
incredible. I think many are saying Ang Lee should pull off the
same thing here.

Let's just remember, they've got 5 months to deliver the final
product.

Jason

Here's how I see it, on a little sliding scale, from bad to good.



GUMBY---OGRE/MONSTER in HARRY POTTER & TSS----BALROG SCENE IN TTT----THE HULK---CAVE TROLL IN FOTR---(SOMETHING EXCELLENT)

Hulk's skin didn't seem to be very realistic in the full model (i.e. it was green but didn't have any qualities you would expect skin to have, it had the gloss and definition of rubber, which is sort of ironic). The animation for it seemed a little bit too rough (not very fluid and a bit clunky). Now I don't think either side should render a judgment until the final movie comes out, because this could very well be:

1. The very best shots in the whole movie, everywhere else he looks worse.
2. Unfinished CGI and the finalized one will blow your pants off.

That said, Hulk seems unrealistic -- that is, he is not correctly animated (or even lit, in the one watertank scene) -- yes, I understand that he is GREEN and he is VERY TALL and he THROWS THINGS. The lack of realism is not in the character but in the execution of the CGI.

I don't think they were going for realism. The hulk is not real, the only way to portray him is with CGI. And I don't think he should look "real" because he doesn't exsist in the first place. Just like the balrog in LOTR and the treeants in TTT. I thought it looked pretty damn cool, especially when he was throwing the tank. Just my 2 cents.

CGI is not to the point where it is real. face it. it will look like a comic because.. it's from a comic! Many fail to see that. I think for what it is, it looks amazing. I'll be there

The Hulk is incredibly difficult to animate because he's green, freakishly massive with oversized hands and feet. He's also humanoid. Trying to make something that is so unreal and abnormal look photoreal is far more difficult than anything attempted in LOTR, Matrix, or Star Wars. Ang Lee and Muren admitted that this was a huge gamble because making a character like this believable is unlike anything ever attempted.

What you're looking at in some scenes is the Hulk sweating, for instance in the scene where the Nick Nolte looks up at the Hulk. Skin shines when it sweats. If you noticed he wasn't shiny in all the scenes. Look at the pic I posted. That's an actual shot of the CGI Hulk. Looks like real skin to me.

I thought the animation was very smooth. What they did was give the Hulk incredible speed, power, and swiftness. That's how the comic book character was. He was very fast. He could jump hundreds of feet into the air. The Hulk is not a slow, lumbering character by any means.

I think it is fair to say the effects are not even close to being finished. The film is still 4-5 months away. The shots in that trailer might be as much as a month or two old.

I was thinking the exact same thing. From some quotes, it seems like people were expecting the Hulk to look more like a bodybuilder and move more like a human being. Folks, that isn't even remotely the case.

yes, the hobbits... thank you

my point is that if PJ can at least try to find some creative (camera effect mixed with CGI) way to pull the string, then Ang Lee must at least do some other creative way too...

everybody knows that the expectation is high... but the director must know that from the beginning to. he needs to realize that the story alone won't be enough to make this movie... since the main character is a big giant green dude...

like i said, i'm hoping that the final result won't be as bad as the one i saw on TV tonight.....

i just don't want to see another "jar-jar-bing" in green



PS: yes hulk is not real.... but at least they could "try" make it more believable.... they did great in Jurassic Park (what? about 10 years ago?)