Sunday Morning

I enjoy the star trek films, I watched a few episodes of the next generation show, I just got back from Nemesis.

I am confused to why the character of wesley crusher played by will wheaton was not on display in the other films and this one.
He has a cameo in nemesis, but doesn't even say a word.

Was there bad blood between will and the producers of the show? What were the circumstances? And why isn't he in the other films?

Any answers are much appreciated, thanks!

LBPound

I don't know anything about Star Trek at all, but I believe he discusses his conflicts with the show producers on his website, WilWheaton.com i think.

Sunday Morning

Thanks LB.

I checked his site out.

It looks like his scene was cut from the film and that the producers of the show are, lets say, a little less than supporting of him. They didn't even invite him to the premiere. Not nice!

His site is actually pretty cool for a self run celebrity site.
I will be checking it out further.

Josh-da-man

Wil Wheaton seems like a pretty cool, down-to-Earth guy.

He's gotten a lot of flack from Trekkies over the years who HATED Wesley with a passion, which is really petty and unfair.

Jackskeleton

Wil Wheaton is a big tool.

and if you do a search you will see other threads about this lamer.

jarofclay73

I'm sure that Wil Wheaton's lines were cut out because of pacing and time. I doubt that the producers would cut him out of the movie on a grudge.

Actually, I don't think Wesley Crusher shouldn't have been in the movie at all. In the series, he left with The Traveler to become another being, or something like that. Perhaps the Traveler left his phone number with Beverly Crusher?

I think Wil Wheaton is taking it all too personally if he's complaining that he was left on the cutting room floor.

Heat

What does he look like now? I keep imagining him as a 14 or 15 year old.

Iron Chef

I heard that there was a whole subplot with him cut out of the movie.

bboisvert

I'm certain that his scenes were cut for pacing... we'll probably see them on the DVD.

Seriously, as much as I like the guy and never had too much of a problem with the Wesley character, the last thing that movie needed was to put on the breaks on for few minutes so we could "catch up" with the character. He isn't important to the rest of the story, so it wasn't important to know anything about him. Putting him in the scene makes sense... having him talk really doesn't. That's what the novelization is for.

Breakfast with Girls

And yeah, he wasn't invited to the cast premiere, only to the Paramount employee premiere, which is a pretty clear "**** you." Apparently he passed and just went with some friends.

cooper2000

They cut him out and reportedly cut out about 40 minutes of good character stuff so they could bring in the more Action crowd. In the process they pissed fans off and didnt get the action fans in. The movie made only 18 million. Nuff said.
Wheatons scene(s) couldnt have slowed the pacing down by much. I just dont believe that.

Numanoid

Director's cut DVD...Director's cut DVD...oh please, oh please!!!

sherm42

Actually in his posting about the call he received from Berman, Wil completely understood them cutting his scene and did not take it personally at all. It hurt, but he figured his scene would be the first to go when they started to trim the film.

What he did take personally was not even being invited to the premiere. Like they couldn't spare two feakin tickets.

necros

Well he still has the sequel to stand by me to look forward to...

mikehunt

plus he was in uniform
that made no sense since he left the academy to go with the traveler

young

ok, i hated his character on the show... followed by that psychic woman ("i sense anger..." do you think???)

isn't he hosting the G4TV Arena show? this thread reminded me of that guy... he looked familiar but i couldn't place him.

dhmac

Looking at his site, though, he has something that's total nonsense on it ( http://www.wilwheaton.net/faq.php#trek ), in which he says that he wasn't able to be in the movie Valmont because Roddenberry had died and whomever replaced him wouldn't let Wheaton miss a single episode to appear in the film.

Well, given that Milos Forman's Valmont was released in 1989 ( http://us.imdb.com/Details?0098575 ) and Roddenberry didn't die until two years later in 1991, his argument doesn't hold water. He either has a faulty memory on this subject or he doesn't want to make Roddenberry look bad for not allowing him to be in this movie (in which I'd imagine he would've had Henry "Elliott from E.T." Thomas' role). I have no trouble believing he was considered for this movie, though, because this would've been soon after his generally well-regarded performance in Stand By Me

sherm42

He may have been referring to the fact that after Roddenbery had become ill, he wasn't really controling the show even though he was alive and was still somewhat involved. There was a certian point when he was alive, but the operation of the show was being handled by Berman.

calhoun07

All will be rectified for the next Trek movie:

grunter

(A) Most likely he was back to witness the marriage of Deanna and Riker. You don't think he completely took leave of his corporeal existence and extended Enterprise family, do you?

(B) When ex-military people go out at a formal event in public, many times they do slip back into their military dress uniform for the occasion. Why couldn't Wesley have been doing that?

Why must every last second of the lives of every character in the Trek franchise be minutely detailed on screen? Can't the details be filled in using one's imagination?

Mr. Gore

Wesley is wearing a Starfleet Lieutenant's uniform in the film, and J.M. Dillard's novelization of John Logan's script places Lieutenant Crusher as serving in engineering on the Titan, Captain Riker's new command. No explanation of him leaving his studies with the Traveler is given, however.

redskull47

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Wesley is wearing a Starfleet Lieutenant's uniform in the film, and J.M. Dillard's novelization of John Logan's script places Lieutenant Crusher as serving in engineering on the Titan, Captain Riker's new command. No explanation of him leaving his studies with the Traveler is given, however.
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Which just goes to show how little the current creative regime knows about the show. It's one thing to forget a monor detail like the name of a planet some character mentioned 20 years ago, but to forget/ignore the details of a main character's farewell is pretty sloppy.

Wesley in uniform didn't bother, me, because as mentioned before, he WAS an ensign before he left with the Traveller. Why he was there at all was what bothered me. One measley line to explain that his journey with the Traveller had brought him back to known space or something like that would have taken 30 seconds at the most, not slowed the movie down appreciably and answered a lot of questions.

Fok

They shouldn't of bought him back. His character didn't serve any purpose in Star Trek in the first place, just some smart wonder boy. I'd rather have them focus on the main characters instead, that what's I'm interested in.