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Old 10-28-02 | 06:10 PM
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The Ring - questions [spoilers]

So, I just saw The Ring, and while it's all fresh in my mind I have a lot of unanswered questions

First, why didn't Rachel die? Was it because she made a copy of the tape (and so that's why she helps Aiden copy it)? Why would making a copy of it keep her alive? What is she gonna do with the copies?

What was the deal with the horses dying? I still don't get what that had to do with the rest of the story, other than it being a clue to help lead them to the truth. Did the girl somehow make the horses die?

I think Aiden said something like she didn't like the barn because the horses kept her awake.. but then they say she never sleeps.. so did the horses keep her awake really or was she awake anyway? Would that be why she killed them, if she did? How could horses keeping her awake make her never ever sleep again?

Was it me, or did the girl's father look just like Emeril, only older?

And last, when is the DVD coming out?

I thought it was a great movie overall but I really hope they don't end up turning the evil little girl into just another Freddy or Chuckie. I thought this movie was great but it just seemed to me at the end it was screaming to Hollywood to destroy it with lame sequels.
Old 10-28-02 | 06:39 PM
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I think the point of copying the tape was that it was going to be like a chain letter that really does kill you if you don't copy it and send it along to other people. I think that Samara wanted her story to be known or was just looking to spread her evil.

As for the horses, I think she just drove the horses mad and they all killed themselves.
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If you help spread the curse, then the curse skips you. Pay attention

The horses dying I would assume had to do with the death of Samara.

She is always awake because of the horses.

He kind of looked like Emeril. lol

It's based on the Japanese film, which has two sequels. Hopefully they just leave it at this because I'm sure they will screw them up. Besides, Ring 2 and Ring 0 weren't as good as the original anyway.
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I've seen the movie twice, and I think I can help you out.

First, why didn't Rachel die? Was it because she made a copy of the tape (and so that's why she helps Aiden copy it)? Why would making a copy of it keep her alive? What is she gonna do with the copies?

Rachel didn't die because she made the copy of the tape and showed it to someone else (Noah). Samara wants everyone to experience her pain, so the reward for passing on the tape is not being killed.

What was the deal with the horses dying? I still don't get what that had to do with the rest of the story, other than it being a clue to help lead them to the truth. Did the girl somehow make the horses die?

According to Samara's dad, horses can sense things before they happen. Samara said that her daddy always loved the horses more than her, so she freaked them out to the point that they ran so far away from her that they drowned in the ocean. On the boat, Rachel scared the horse (the horse can sense that you've been marked for death).

I think Aiden said something like she didn't like the barn because the horses kept her awake.. but then they say she never sleeps.. so did the horses keep her awake really or was she awake anyway? Would that be why she killed them, if she did? How could horses keeping her awake make her never ever sleep again?

Samara doesn't sleep, but its unclear if she ever attempted to sleep. She killed them to punish her mom and dad. Samara is pure evil.

And last, when is the DVD coming out?

Not soon enough. The extras on the disc could be amazing.

-je
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Jackepstein,

I have one for you.

Why did the boy freak out when the girl freed the dead body from the well? It was no big deal, she still kills if she was still in the well or not.

thanks necros for starting this thread
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Same thread?!

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=244525

Some of the question were answered.....
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Well I saw the other thread, but it said no spoilers, so I figured it'd be better to make a new one
Old 10-29-02 | 11:10 AM
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Jackepstein,

I have one for you.

Why did the boy freak out when the girl freed the dead body from the well? It was no big deal, she still kills if she was still in the well or not.

thanks necros for starting this thread
I wondered the exact same question! but I really don't want to read through pages and pages of "no spoiler" thread to get the answer or others ideas. So why not answer it here.... what changed by letting her out of the well??
Old 10-29-02 | 11:31 AM
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I think the answer to that unanswered question is now, it's easier for her to "spread" her story now that her "body" is out of the well. She doesn't have to rely on people renting Cabin 12 and watching a video in it which she can "record" her stuff on.
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Why did the boy freak out when the girl freed the dead body from the well? It was no big deal, she still kills if she was still in the well or not.

Kal Jedi has the right idea here. Samara is evil, and being prisoned within the well was the best way to contain her. Obviously, she can kill people while being stuck in the well, but now she is on the loose. Who knows how strong her powers can become now, and what she's capable of doing.

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My question: Just how was this tape started, anyway? I was trying to figure that would be explained rather than the "Candyman-esque" search by the (lovely) main character.
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My question: Just how was this tape started, anyway? I was trying to figure that would be explained rather than the "Candyman-esque" search by the (lovely) main character.
Remember the X-Rays Noah found in the hospital labs? How they were drawings instead of regular x-rays? I think Samarra is able to manifest images wherever she wants to and with Cabin 12 being located right on top of the well where she was "resting", she just manifests those images directly to whoever watched/recorded anything.
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Originally posted by Kal Jedi
Remember the X-Rays Noah found in the hospital labs? How they were drawings instead of regular x-rays? I think Samarra is able to manifest images wherever she wants to and with Cabin 12 being located right on top of the well where she was "resting", she just manifests those images directly to whoever watched/recorded anything.
I think you are right, at the start didn't they say something about putting in a movie to watch at the cabin and then that weird tape played?? Or something close to that...
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Who says "7 days" when the phone rings? I assume it's Samara but didn't it sound like a boy's voice?

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What a movie!!! I think Rachel didn't die 'cause she made a copy. The only part i jumped at(i don't jump very easily) was close to the end was when Samara(i think) walked throught the TV set, even though i saw it coming. Overall a great movie i'll be recommeding to everyone.
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Okay! I am scared of Samara - Miss Thang is a TRIP!!!!!
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I agree with most of what you guys are saying. I agree that Racheal didn't die because she made a copy and "spread" the tape/story of Samara/evil <whatever you want to call it>. That's why she made Aiden make a copy and he then responded "what about the people we show this to?".

In regards to the X-rays, they weren't technically X-rays, they were "thermographs" and I think that relates to some kind of "thermal" power that Samara must possess... the same reason for the burnings on the wall of her room in the barn and in the cabin. But remember, even when they are talking to her in the institution, she says she is evil and doesn't know why, but feels that she must share it with others.

And I was debating with other that saw it with me whether or not that the tape that started the movie was the first of such tapes and was and embodiment of Samara's evil (because they DID say they were trying to tape the football game but there is poor reception up there).. or is just a newer tape, thus explaining the urban legend of the school kids getting killed after watching the tape. ... no conclusion here...

You guys may want to check out some of the sites regarding the original Japanese version. I haven't seen that version but it sounds intriguing, and a bit different... supposedly the writer originally referred to the tape like a virus and the only way to continue to live was to "spread" the virus/tape to others...

Check the other thread for the sites...

Oh yeah.. and I think there was a double meaning to Samara getting out of the well.. I think it also referred to the fact that someone (aka Rachael) had figured out how to survive the tape... and that only means that the tape will keep spreading and spreading... <unless they just follow my idea and show it to someone else to save Aiden. Then let that person die, destroy the tape and they're set... unless by unleashing her from the well they're all doomed now!!)
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If you have any questions about The Ring or the Japanese films go to http://ringworld.somrux.com/ they have a great forum there.
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Remember the X-Rays Noah found in the hospital labs? How they were drawings instead of regular x-rays? I think Samarra is able to manifest images wherever she wants to and with Cabin 12 being located right on top of the well where she was "resting", she just manifests those images directly to whoever watched/recorded anything.
I don't think so because once Rachel took the tape out of the cabin, Samara was already free to spread her evil past the cabin. And I'm guessing the only way she can spread her evil is through the tape, so I don't think they kid freaked out because she can spread her evil because its all contained on the tape.
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i don't think samara being freed from the well meant much.
i just got the impression that it is a "shocking" revelation. and a good way to break away from convention. the ghost are always restless seeking revenge or what not, it always ends with the heroes exposing what happened and freeing the ghost to go onto to heaven or whatever. so everything seems to be happy, good ending and all, then it is revealed oh crap! we weren't supposed to do that.

why is samara evil and the deal with the horses?
the guy, i think found the health records and saw how many misscariges the mother had. she wasn't meant to have children. they forced nature to give them what they weren't supposed to have. i think samara knew this. she knew she wasn't meant to be alive, hated being alive, and wanted to bring pain to the living. her mother loved horses, i believe everything with the horses came from samara making the horses insane (not the horses just reacting to her being evil) to hurt what her mother loved most.
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I saw this film today at my local theater and must say that I was very happily surprised. I really enjoyed this movie
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why is samara evil and the deal with the horses?
the guy, i think found the health records and saw how many misscariges the mother had. she wasn't meant to have children. they forced nature to give them what they weren't supposed to have. i think samara knew this. she knew she wasn't meant to be alive, hated being alive, and wanted to bring pain to the living. her mother loved horses, i believe everything with the horses came from samara making the horses insane (not the horses just reacting to her being evil) to hurt what her mother loved most.
Okay, so I finally saw this movie last week over vacation. Afterwards, my main problem was not knowing what Samara's motivation for killing was (I realized she was evil, but that just seems too general and easy). Thanks for the explanation.

So, what would happen if you watched the tape and then moved out to Amish country?
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Man that movie frieked me out, so why did I trade it out to wait a while and trade for it. I just traded it out let some other trader get into The Ring.


P.S. The movie reminded me of "Arcade" where all the regulars of the game shop, got this new game to try out an if you screwed up you died. Equus with Richard Burton, the kid got seduced by actress Jenny Agutter. The horses *seen* the action and got blinded by the boy who threw acid into the horses eyes.
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Burtons character was that of a psychiatrist who went loony, trying to figure out why the kid blinded the horses.
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thank you for not giving up that spoiler.


what does Equss mean?


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Originally posted by Venom
i don't think samara being freed from the well meant much.
i just got the impression that it is a "shocking" revelation. and a good way to break away from convention. the ghost are always restless seeking revenge or what not, it always ends with the heroes exposing what happened and freeing the ghost to go onto to heaven or whatever. so everything seems to be happy, good ending and all, then it is revealed oh crap! we weren't supposed to do that.
My thoughts exactly:

Spoiler:
So many horror/supernatural thrillers follow the main characters on a journey as they unlock some sort of mystery - often times connecting the dots from point A to point B as if by magic. As audience members, we're so used to the "aha" revelation endings by now.

In The Ring, we were falsely led to believe (as the main characters also thought) that by finding the girl's body, everything was now OK and the curse was lifted (I know I, for one, fell for it). However, not everything in life can be solved simply and easily - and the movie reflects this. The characters were wrong - they didn't understand the curse correctly - and some of them paid for it as a result.


BTW - Equus is Latin for "horse." Hence, the term "Equestrian."

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