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The Great Alaskan Earthquake of 28 March 1964 generated a great tsunami which was extremely damaging, not only in Alaska, but along Vancouver Island and Northern California. The tsunami waves affected the entire California coastline but were particularly high from Crescent City to Monterey with heights ranging from 2.1 - 6.3 meters (7-21 feet). Eleven persons lost their lives in Crescent City and tsunami damage was estimated at $7,414,000(1964 dollars). The estimated losses elsewhere along California were between $1,500,000 and $2,375,000 (1964 dollars). Extensive damage occurred also in the Los Angeles and Long Beach Harbors.


Ok.. maybe only 11 people died.
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DC, is that the same one where someone caught a bay draining on film when the earth underneath it cracked? I know it was in Alaska and it was an old film. Anyway, the film show the water rushing out of the bay like a bathtub due to large cracks that formed under the water.
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I believe that the water from the bay was forced onshore and momentarially, a camera cought the exposed bottom of the bay
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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
I believe that the water from the bay was forced onshore and momentarially, a camera cought the exposed bottom of the bay

Ok, but I know I saw this video years ago. The images are stuck in my head.
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If they were just a couple of miles out they probably didn't feel anything, or at the very most, just a swell. Tsunamis don't start as a wave out in the ocean, they travel until the depth reaches a certain level (depending on the size of the wave) and then turn into a wave. The ocean was actually the safest place to be, provided you were not on top of the earthquake or too close to land.
Thanks kvrdave. You sure know a lot.

I now wonder what would happen to a submarine out in the ocean? Would it get carried away at 500 mph?
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Here's a couple of videos that i found:

Video 1

Video 2


(credit goes to brevity @ LWS)

Simply amazing.

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stupid and useless UN at it again


The Bush administration yesterday pledged $15 million to Asian nations hit by a tsunami that has killed more than 22,500 people, although the United Nations' humanitarian-aid chief called the donation "stingy."
"The United States, at the president's direction, will be a leading partner in one of the most significant relief, rescue and recovery challenges that the world has ever known," said White House deputy press secretary Trent Duffy.
But U.N. Undersecretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Jan Egeland suggested that the United States and other Western nations were being "stingy" with relief funds, saying there would be more available if taxes were raised.

It is beyond me why are we so stingy, really," the Norwegian-born U.N. official told reporters. "Christmastime should remind many Western countries at least, [of] how rich we have become."
"There are several donors who are less generous than before in a growing world economy," he said, adding that politicians in the United States and Europe "believe that they are really burdening the taxpayers too much, and the taxpayers want to give less. It's not true. They want to give more."
In response to Mr. Egeland's comments, Mr. Duffy pointed out that the United States is "the largest contributor to international relief and aid efforts, not only through the government, but through charitable organizations. The American people are very giving."
Offers of aid have poured in from around the world in the past two days, with the European Union's executive arm releasing $4 million in emergency aid and pledging an additional $27 million. Canada and several European nations including Spain, Germany, Ireland and Belgium each pledged about $1 million yesterday.
Secretary of State Colin L. Powell hinted that the $15 million U.S. offer was only the first installment of a larger aid package to those countries devastated by 30-foot waves triggered by a massive underwater earthquake.
"We also have to see this not just as a one-time thing," he said. "Some 20-plus thousand lives have been lost in a few moments, but the lingering effects will be there for years.
"The damage that was caused, the rebuilding of schools and other facilities will take time," he added. "So you need a quick infusion to stabilize the situation, take care of those who have been injured, get immediate relief supplies in, and then you begin planning for the longer haul."
If that planning calls for significant food aid, the United States might have to scramble.
"Even before the crisis in the Asia-Pacific region and the Indian Ocean, the demands for food aid were stretching capacity: demands in Sudan, demands in West Africa, demands in other areas hit by drought and fighting," State Department spokesman Adam Ereli said.
"So even though we're giving a lot, the demand is very high," he added. "We're going to have to look at, as we move forward, what we can do to meet that demand."
Money and food are not the only types of aid being sent by the Bush administration. The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) also is sending a 21-member disaster-relief team to the region.
Also, the Pentagon has dispatched military patrol planes from the Pacific Fleet. President Bush has written letters of condolence to seven of the affected nations Bangladesh, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, India, the Maldives and Malaysia.
Besides the United States, the largest single national donor was neighboring Australia, which offered $10 million and transportation aid.
"Australia will and should give more," Prime Minister John Howard said.
The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies made an initial appeal of $6.7 million, which the federation says it will probably increase.
Officials from relief agencies, including the Red Cross and other nongovernmental organizations, met yesterday in Geneva to coordinate their efforts. In New York, diplomats from six of the affected nations met with U.N. officials.
The United Nations and other aid organizations have deployed hundreds of disaster-recovery and humanitarian-response teams to the region, and officials warn that the cost of the disaster could quickly reach "many billions of dollars."
"We may only know the full effect of this emergency weeks from now," Mr. Egeland told reporters yesterday at the United Nations in New York. "The disaster affecting Southeast Asia is not the biggest in recorded history, but the effects could be the biggest because more people live in exposed areas than ever before."
The tsunami-ravaged nations are particularly susceptible to epidemics as authorities struggle with thousands of corpses in unsanitary conditions. International organizations and nations including France, Japan, Israel, Kuwait, Hungary and others are sending medical personnel to some or all of the affected countries.
"The principal danger is that of diseases transmitted through water, especially malaria and diarrhea, and infections caught through respiration," said Hakan Sandbladh, a Red Cross official in Geneva.
Groups such as Doctors Without Borders warned that catastrophes tend to help localized illnesses turn into full-blown epidemics.
The destruction of water and sewage pipes, the disruption of vaccination programs and the lack of attention to disease-carrying pests such as rats and mosquitoes exacerbated the risk, they said.
In this situation, the stagnant pools of water created by the tsunami could boost the numbers of mosquitoes and other insects that transmit tropical maladies such as malaria and dengue fever.
"The risk of epidemics is also linked to concentrations of people whose houses have been destroyed," said Pauline Horrill of Doctors Without Borders.
Meanwhile, Agence France-Presse reported that a tsunami alert system in Hawaii that warns Pacific countries about devastating tidal waves detected the earthquake that led to the destruction across Indian Ocean nations.
But the absence of an alert system in Asia meant the information could not be sent out fast enough.
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, established in 1949 after a huge wave killed more than 150 people in Hawaii, issued a bulletin at 3:14 p.m. local time or 8:14 a.m. in the affected area, when it detected an earthquake off Indonesia.
The NOAA's information bulletin said there was a possibility of a tsunami near the earthquake's epicenter, but that no destructive threat existed in the Pacific. The huge tidal waves instead swept across the Indian Ocean, killing people in 10 countries from Indonesia to Somalia.
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Jan Egeland can kiss my ass.
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Jan Egeland can kiss my ass.
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UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- The United Nations' emergency relief coordinator said Tuesday that the international response to the tsunami catastrophe in southern Asia has been "very generous" despite earlier comments in which he called some nations "stingy."

"The international assistance that has come and been pledged from the United States, from Europe and from countries in the region has also been very generous," Jan Egeland said in brief remarks at the world body's headquarters.

"I have been misinterpreted when I yesterday said that my belief that rich countries in general can be more generous. This has nothing to do with any particular country or the response to this emergency. We're in early days and the response has so far been overwhelmingly positive," he added.

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Egeland is a fucking moron. I wonder if he himself donated any money to the Red Cross and/or other aid foundations.
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For those who would like to contribute.

Just posted by the AP...

Agencies Planning Aid to Earthquake and Tidal Wave Victims in Asia
The following aid agencies are accepting contributions for assistance that they or their affiliates are providing for those affected by the earthquake and tidal waves in Asia. U.S. organizations are members of InterAction, a coalition of relief, development and refugee assistance agencies.
Action Against Hunger

247 West 37th St.

New York, NY 10018



ADRA International

Asia Quake Fund

12501 Old Columbia Pike

Silver Spring, MD 20904

800-424-ADRA (2372)


Air Serv International

6583 Merchant Place, Suite 100

Warrenton, VA 20187


American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee, Inc.

DC-South Asia Tsunami Relief

P.O. Box 321

847A Second Ave.

New York, New York 10017



American Jewish World Service

45 W. 36th St., 10th Fl.

New York, NY 10018




88 Hamilton Ave.

Stamford, CT 06902



Baptist World Aid

Asia Tidal Waves

405 North Washington St.

Falls Church, VA 22046

703 790 8980


B'nai B'rith International

B'nai B'rith Disaster Relief Fund

2020 K. St. NW

7th Floor

Washington, DC 20006



Brother's Brother Foundation

1200 Galveston Ave.

Pittsburgh, PA 15233




151 Ellis St. NE

Atlanta, GA 30303



Catholic Relief Services

209 West Fayette St.

Baltimore, MD 21201



Christian Children's Fund

Child Alert Fund

PO Box 26484

Richmond, Virginia - 23261-6484



Christian Reformed World Relief Committee (CRWRC)

South Asia Earthquake

2850 Kalamazoo Ave. SE

Grand Rapids, MI, 49560



Church World Service

PO Box 968

Elkhart, IN 46515



Direct Relief International

27 South La Patera Lane

Santa Barbara, CA 93117



Food for the Hungry, Inc.

Food for the Hungry

Asia Quake Relief

1224 E. Washington St.

Phoenix, AZ 85034



International Aid

17011 W. Hickory

Spring Lake, MI 49456



International Medical Corps

Tsunami Emergency Response

1919 Santa Monica Blvd., Suite 300

Santa Monica, CA 90404-1950



International Relief Teams

Asia Earthquake/Floods

3547 Camino Del Rio South, Suite C

San Diego, CA 92108



International Rescue Committee

PO Box 5058

Hagerstown, MD 21741-9874

877-REFUGEE or 733-8433


Latter-Day Saint Charities

Welfare Services Emergency Response

50 East North Temple Street, Room 701

Salt Lake City, Utah, 84150-6800



Lutheran World Relief

South Asia Tsunami

700 Light St.

Baltimore, MD 21230



MAP International

P.O. Box 215000

Brunswick, GA 31521



Mercy Corps

Southeast Asia Earthquake

Dept. W

PO Box 2669

Portland, OR 97208-2669



Operation USA

8320 Melrose Ave. 200

Los Angeles, CA 90069



Oxfam America

Asian Earthquake Fund

PO Box 1211

Albert Lea, MN 56007-1211



Plan USA

Asia Disaster

155 Plan Way

Warwick, RI 02886



Project Concern International

Asia Tsunamis Press List

5151 Murphy Canyon Road Suite 320

San Diego, CA 92123



Project HOPE

Asia Tsunami Response

255 Carter Hall Lane

Millwood, VA 22646



SAWSO (Salvation Army World Service Office)

South Asia Relief Fund

615 Slaters Lane

Alexandria, VA, 22313


Save the Children USA

54 Wilton Road

Westport, CT 06880



Stop Hunger Now

SE Asia crisis

2501 Clark Ave, Suite 200

Raleigh, NC 27607



US Fund for UNICEF

General Emergency Fund

333 E. 38th St.

New York, NY 10016



World Concern

Asia Earthquake and Tsunami

19303 Fremont Avenue North

Seattle, WA 98133



World Emergency Relief

2270-D Camino Vida Roble

Carlsbad, CA 92009



World Vision

P.O. Box 70288

Tacoma, WA 98481-0288


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just terrible stuff, over 52,000 dead now and rising
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more stupids on the rise...

Sri Lanka rejects Israel rescuers


Israel has cancelled plans to send a 150-person rescue mission to Sri Lanka after the devastated island objected to the military composition of the team.
The delegation - including 60 soldiers - had been due to set off on Tuesday to help after Sunday's tsunami disaster.

Instead, a smaller team will escort a convoy carrying emergency supplies, Israeli officials said.

Sri Lanka restored diplomatic ties with Israel in 2000, despite objections from the island's Muslim minority.

Neither side has officially explained the change of plan, although some reports say the objection came from Sri Lanka's military.

Sri Lanka Ambassador Diffa Digeratna is quoted by Jerusalem Post as saying that the change was due to the "the lack of accommodations in Colombo".

Israel's army had planned to send staff to set up field hospitals, including internal medicine and paediatric clinics, an Israeli army spokesman said.

A situation room has been set up to track down Israeli holidaymakers
Other Israeli agencies have sent emergency relief to Sri Lanka and other tsunami-hit countries.

Humanitarian organisation Latet sent a jumbo jet carrying 18 metric tons of supplies to Colombo, medical teams have been dispatched to Thailand and help offered to India, Haaretz reported.

A rescue-and-recovery team from the Jewish ultra-Orthodox organisation Zaka left for the region on Monday with equipment used for identifying bodies, as well as body bags.

Israel's foreign ministry has set up a situation room for relatives to track down hundreds of Israelis on holiday in the tsunami zone, who have not yet made contact.

No one from the country has yet been confirmed dead in the disaster.
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Originally Posted by spfanatic
Here's a couple of videos that i found:

Video 1

Video 2


(credit goes to brevity @ LWS)
Wow, those are unbelievable. The videos helped to clear up for me what can be so bad about a tsunami. In the first video, the wave wasn't the worst part, it was the fact that the sea level rose about 15-20 feet in a matter of seconds and must have taken some time to go back down. Unless there was some way to get high in a building or higher ground drowning would be tough to avoid.

The other video showed the wave coming in, which was freaky as shit. It didn't come very far ashore though, so it must have been nothing compared to other areas that were hit by the tsunami.
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Here's a cool little story.

I was reading the Sydney Morning Herald (Australian newspaper) and I came across this harrowing survivor's account: http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/The...996555398.html

One part of the story hit me particularly hard:
We hurried up the mountain on automatic pilot to a half-built resort where people seemed to be heading. And then the waiting, and the stories, began. Parents without children, husbands without wives, children without parents, a blond two-year-old boy wandering around without anyone.
The idea of a little boy wandering around with no one helping him is just heartbreaking.

Imagine my surprise when I read this article in the Boston Globe:
A 2-year-old boy who was found dazed and alone on a roadside in the wasteland of a tsunami-devastated Thai resort was reunited Tuesday with his uncle, who spotted the child's picture on the Internet.
The boy, identified by his uncle as Hannes Bergstroem, was found Sunday night on a road in Phang Nga province near the beach resort of Khao Lak, about 60 miles from the island of Phuket. He was taken to Phuket International Hospital where the staff posted pictures of the blond-haired boy with red spots all over his face from mosquito bites on its Web site on Monday. They also published his photo in a local newspaper.
Same island, same town, same 2 year old blonde boy? It's got to be him

It's good to see a little good news coming out of such a terrible catastrophy.
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The dean of Kellogg (Northwestern's School of Management) was in Thailand on the beach.

Northwestern dean survives quake

By Melanie Coffee
The Associated Press
Published December 28, 2004, 9:10 AM CST

Dipak Jain first knew something was wrong when his sofa trembled as he was having his morning tea at a beach-front resort in Thailand. Then hours later while he was walking back to his hotel, the dean at Northwestern University's business school stopped in his tracks as a gigantic wall of water came barreling toward the building.

The massive wave filled with broken boats, chairs and tables hit a large lagoon just in front of the hotel, missing the structure.

``When the wave started pouring into the lagoon, it reminded me of Niagara Falls,'' Jain said Monday by telephone from just outside Bangkok.

Jain and his family were among the Illinoisans who were in South Asia when an undersea earthquake caused tsunamis that killed more than 44,000 people in nine countries.

Jain, dean of the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern, has been in Thailand since Dec. 15 to teach at a school in Bangkok that partners with Kellogg. Jain, his wife, and their three children left Bangkok on Saturday for the island of Phuket.

For the family, Sunday was to be a day of fun at the beach with friends. When Jain felt the earth shake briefly that morning, there didn't seem to be any danger, so the family continued with their plans for breakfast near the beach. Then while returning to the hotel, they saw the tidal wave.

The family was less than 100 yards from the wave, but Jain said they were not in danger of getting swept away because much of the water went into the lagoon.

``We are very fortunate,'' Jain said. ``When you see things like that, you get a very different perspective on life, you see how short life can be.''

Jain's hotel was later evacuated and with the help of a few friends, he and his family flew out of Phuket and to safety in inland Bangkok.
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Wow, i've been in the sportsbook and on the slopes since sunday, and this is the first I've heard of this. Sad times.
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Wow, i've been in the sportsbook and on the slopes since sunday, and this is the first I've heard of this. Sad times.
How the hell is it possible that you haven't heard about this? I assume you were in the Tahoe or Reno casinos, not a third world country while you were skiing.
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Just horrible...the death toll just keeps rising every morning when I check the news.
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How the hell is it possible that you haven't heard about this? I assume you were in the Tahoe or Reno casinos, not a third world country while you were skiing.
We got up to Reno by noon on Sunday. Placed bets on the 1pm games at the Circus Circus sportsbook. Played poker and watched the games till 7pm. None of the game channels mentioned this at all.

Had dinner and then gambled at Golden Phoenix till 1am. Left for Mt Rose at 7:30am. After that, we hit Thunder Valley for dinner and more gambling, and got back to the bay area late Monday night.

I feel like I've been gone for a week.
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Just saw that little kid on the NYC 5pm news. The report indicated that his father has been located alive in a different hospital but his mother remains missing.
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The first video clip seems to be down. Here it is at a different site:

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The first video clip seems to be down. Here it is at a different site:

this one's down too?
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