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Old 05-29-01, 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by The Eigeman



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There are concerns as to what the boxset will contain that will make the boxset $20 more expensive than having the 6 Discs by themselves. My guess is not only the box that it comes in, but it will include an extra DVD. Guesses are the movie will come with it. I also speculate that the extra DVD might be the "Session #0" which is only available in Japan, and Bandai US finally got the rights to it. Hmm, maybe it will come with a special figurine of Spike or something of that sort, and any other features a usual good boxset will come (if Bandai U.S. chooses to do what the Japanese do for their ltd. ed. boxsets).

[Edited by The Eigeman on 05-29-01 at 09:37 AM]
The movie will not be included with the box set! It is not finished yet, there is no licence agreement for it, and it would be almost impossible to have it ready for U.S. distrobution by Nov. 6th.

Also, session "0" is already out inthe U.S. If you have all six disks, you have session "0". They broke it up and added it as extras on the dvd's so that kills that idea.

All I know is it had better be somthing awsome or I will just stick to the box that I got from Paul Champagne.


I want to see Bandi make a better box than this!
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Originally posted by tjr2mental

The movie will not be included with the box set! It is not finished yet, there is no licence agreement for it, and it would be almost impossible to have it ready for U.S. distrobution by Nov. 6th.

Also, session "0" is already out inthe U.S. If you have all six disks, you have session "0". They broke it up and added it as extras on the dvd's so that kills that idea.

All I know is it had better be somthing awsome or I will just stick to the box that I got from Paul Champagne.


I want to see Bandi make a better box than this!
Well, whatever it is, it will definitely be worth the $20 extra.

As for the movie, the movie is due out by summer, 2001, my guess is July, and usually Bandai U.S. can license it in post-production prior to nationwide release in Japan, so they can grab the rights now for a potential DVD distribution, which would give it about a 5 months period, which is normal for a DVD distribution after a movie is first showcased. The movie, with all the news and info, is talked about on the official website (http://www.cowboybebop.com), and if you can read Japanese, you'll know what it says.

As for Session #0, I haven't checked the extras on the domestic DVDs, because I really hate the menu setup Bandai U.S. did to Cowboy Bebop. It plain sucks. Session #0 is much better and worth the money than the extras being obliterated into 6 different DVDs.
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Originally posted by Ghym
Anybody else here like Cardcaptor Sakura? It's the first "magical girl" anime I've ever owned. I've never been a big fan of that kind of show, but for some reason I like this one. It's a nice change from some of the serious anime I watch. I just wish the release schedule was a little quicker.
Yes! CCS is a great show! Too bad the licensor (not Pioneer) is delaying disc 4.
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Roddd - Yeah, delaying CCS 4 sucks. I'll probably still buy disc 5 and then check the web to see what is on the episodes I miss on disc 4. I wish they could say why it's delayed. The release schedule is too slow as it is.

As for Bebop, I'll see what extras they include before I buy it. They better be really good for an extra $20. If they are then I'll sell my individual discs to my friend. If they aren't then I'll keep my discs and get the Paul Champagne box.
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Can Some Anime Be Regulated as Child Porn? Supreme Court to Decide

Elektra brought up some points in her dvdTalk thread located here.

The Supreme Court has agreed to hear the case whether or not virtual child porn should be illegal. That would include the parts of anime where the original age (as specified by the Japanese) of the virtual characters was under 18 (or 21 in some USA states). Obviously, high school would be virtually too young in those cases. That could mean some anime falls by the wayside.

The Anime Expo debacle was also mentioned in Elektra's thread.
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Old 05-30-01, 07:24 AM
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I don't want to be the one to start the same debate in this thread, but I will say that would suck. I'm not into child-porn - I think it's a sick concept, but I don't think there's a need to make cartoons illegal - that's just stupid. What about NAMBLA? Are they going to be able to still have their little society? Gross. I don't know - I guess I find people killing each other to be a bit more offensive... why don't we get rid of all subversive music as well? In fact - let's do away with all shocking, subversive and morally reprehensible literature, art, music and cinema - then we can live in utopia drinking Starbucks and popping Prozac. Ugh.
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I finally got my Nadessico disc #5 today - so that's something. I'm still on disk 4 though. The series grows on you.

I also got a second copy of Sol Bianca 3 today which I accidently ordered twice. I think I'll *return* it to best buy.
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In Cowboy Bebop disc #3 episode 1 (I think) where they get bitten by Spikes old mutated lobster thing they're all sick and look like they're going to die...then in the next episode, they're all fine, no mention of it. What's up with that? Is there any mention of it in the later episode?
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No - these episodes don't all follow each other as far as time goes - so perhaps months had gone by between that episode and the next. That episode was just supposed to be funny. Apparently, they got better.

On a side note - Requiem For A Dream ripped off one of our favorites - Perfect Blue. Here's the screenie comparisons...



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When at KMart chasing down the $9.94 bargains, I noticed that the television demo video (for all their for-sale TV sets) was set to Kiki's Delivery Service. Evidently, the store has good taste! Disney has released the VHS tape (white clamshell case, $15.99 KMart).
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Originally posted by Nosebleed
In Cowboy Bebop disc #3 episode 1 (I think) where they get bitten by Spikes old mutated lobster thing they're all sick and look like they're going to die...then in the next episode, they're all fine, no mention of it. What's up with that? Is there any mention of it in the later episode?
Remember Spike set the auto pilot to Mars before going after the jelly. It is assume that the got heal in Mars.
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I need a review please? If you've seen any of the following, could you please tell me if it's worth getting and maybe what it's about? Thank you ^_^

Parasite Eve
Hypnotist
MARRIAGE
Assemble: Insert
Shadowraiders
Weather Report Girl
Baoh
Demonia
Apocalypse Zero 1 & 2
Creatures from the Abyss
Puppet Princess
Very Private Lesson
Killer Barbys
Space Travelers
Arc the Lad
Nadia
Blood: Last Vampire
Getter Robo: Armageddon
Orphen: Spell of the Dragon
Kimagure Orange Road
Sure Death
Jungle De Ikou
Voogies Angel
Moon Over Tao
Fencer of Minerva
Nightwalker 2
Angel Sanctuary
Hand Maid May
Bastard!
Bio Zombie


Or else - what pre-order Anime should I really be looking for? I feel like either there's nothing great coming out or else I'm missing something. Thanks.
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Assemble: Insert

Assemble: Insert details the life of a girl who wants to be an idol pop star. This is a 3 episode OVA and has some good songs and a good soundtrack. I believe this OVA came out around 1989 or 1990, I forget what year, but it was borderline about that decade. This is a comedy, mind you.

Weather Report Girl

Weather Report Girl is about a girl who reports the weather almost naked...okay not quite, but she wears a bikini, and because of this, the station gets higher ratings because of her. I forget how many episodes, but it's funny nonetheless.

Arc the Lad

Arc the Lad is based on the same console game of the same name. In effect, this anime series, which runs 26 episodes, is based on that game. And like most video-game-based-storylines, it may appeal to the die hard gamer, but to the casual viewer, this anime is pretty dull for the first several episodes and may not interest some.

Nadia

Nadia, a.k.a. "Secret of Blue Water", "Nadia and the Secret of Blue Water", "Nadia of the Mysterious Seas" (the latter being a direct translation of the Japanese title "fushigi no umi no Nadia") is a 39 episode run (starting in 1989) developed by Gainax, who also brought you "Neon Genesis Evangelion" (same production team, character designer and director), and who also brought you "Wings of Honneamise", "Gunbuster", "Otaku no Video" and the current favorite OVA hit, "FLCL" (pronounced as "furi kuri"). Just think where Disney's "Atlantis" *stole* their idea from for their movie. Nadia is about a orphan black girl, who has a pet lion cub named King, and at first was a circus performer. A young boy, Jean, a young inventive genius, falls in love with her and befriends her. A trio group, headed by Grandis, a female who adores bright shining jewels wants to steal the crystal jewel from Nadia. But what these people don't know is that the jewel has a history and so does Nadia, although she never knew her parents. Jean and Nadia adventure out to find her parents and come across great danger, a new strong enemy and eventually her family, but all this knowledge comes at a price. Won't say much w/o spoiling it, but highly recommendable. "Nadia" is loosely based off Jules Verne's "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" novel. For you Trigger, the first 4 episodes is a slow introduction of the characters, the actual story plot begins around in the 2nd volume, around episode 7 (I think this is where it is) where Jean and Nadia meet their ultimate enemy.

Blood: The Last Vampire

Blood: The Last Vampire is a movie, which was just released in Japan last year, and is available in R2 DVD (the limited edition boxset was sweet! Too bad Manga can't do something like that...) Anyway, this movie is from Production I.G., known for their CGI in many of the popular anime, and is from the production company of Mamoru Oshii, "Ghost in the Shell" director. It's about a girl, who like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, kills vampires that have inhabited parts of Okinawa, where the American base resides. Yet she is a vampire herself, (kinda like Vampire Hunter D). This is a sweet 40 minute thrill ride of pure CG entertainment mixed in with cel work. About 60-70% of the movie is in English and the rest is in Japanese. (For those attending big cons this year, Anime Expo 2001 will be showcasing a 35mm print of this this year)


Getter Robo: Armageddon

Getter Robo, I pray, is the new one and not the old one. The new one is not a continuation of the old series, but a whole new plotline. It has big robots, which have a very traditional look, rather than a stylish look to it. I have not seen the series, but I have seen clips, so I don't know the whole story but it is interesting to say the least.

Orphen: Spell of the Dragon

Orphen (original title is "Sorcerer Stabber Orphen")...you may have seen the game for the Playstation 2 which is just called "Orphen". This 26 episode anime TV series is about a guy who basically kills demons. Actually there is more of a plot, but since I really haven't watched it, I can't say more.

Kimagure Orange Road

Kimagure Orange Road (or KOR, for short, pronounced either as you spell it "K" "O" "R", or like "core"..."kimagure" in Japanese means "capricious"). KOR is about a young high school boy who falls for this American born Japanese girl, who came to Japan to study, but is tough and not weak like most girls are and can beat any high school boy. This boy is very much in love with her and can't tell her his feelings because another girl falls for him. A side-plot is his telekenetic powers (he and his sisters have powers) which he uses to help his love out or help himself out of bad situations. It's cute, but not for those who hate "angst dramas". This series was also made in the mid 1980's, so the animation style and character design reflect the decade this series is made. This series is really for older die-hard fans, or for new fans who appreciate classic anime series.

Angel Sanctuary

Angel Sanctuary is based off the shoujo manga of the same name about Angels who are dying (from a battle) and need humans to survive. This is an OVA series, and is, I believe, only 6 episodes long.

Hand Maid May

Hand Maid May was a new series in year 2000 in Japan about a Maid who serves her master faithfully, however, things go awry. Very comedic and funny...a good 13 episode TV series.

Bastard!

[i]Basard![/b] is based off the shounen manga of the same name, in where a kid turns into a hero from a certain "change". This is a fantasy story. The manga is pretty raunchy, but the anime is not...this is not hentai but Dark Schneider, the main hero (not the sniveling kid) tends to be, how shall we put it bluntly, constantly horny and it really shows (in the manga). All the major characters' names are based off real American rock groups from the 80's (however because of licensing, the domestic anime company changed the spelling in the subtitle). 6 episode OVA series made in the late 80's (or early 90's...it's been awhile, and I can't remember when it was originall released in Japan).
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For Orphen, attitudes seem pretty split. I've seen the first three episodes, but they felt rather 'blah', to me, and I can't claim to remember much about the plot.

The only KOR I know of hitting DVD anytime soon is the Shin KOR: Summer's Beginning movie. Shin KOR takes place after the resolution of the TV series and OAVs, so it will spoil much of the drama for you. It appears to be enjoyable as a stand-alone, but since KOR TV has an element of "Who'll the main character end up with?", seeing the movie probably will ruin it for you.

Angel Sanctuary I haven't seen, but I do know it's /extremely/ shoujo, is generally pretty confusing if you haven't read the manga, and is only 2-3 eps long (all on one DVD).

The only new thing I'm really looking forward to in the next two months is Crest of Stars. Most of the other good releases seem to be continuations of ongoing stuff, or rereleases of older titles (Oh My Goddess should be good, though).

I'm personally trying to save my pennies so I can eventually snag the second MKR boxset, and then bouncing in anticipation of the November release of the Utena movie (I'll finally get to have the DVD with /subtitles/! Hurray!). Having summer be kinda-slow on majormajor titles is a good thing, in my mind.
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Arc the Lad

I was watching the first few episodes of Arc the Lad the other day and I got really annoyed with the lack of animation. It seemed to me that most shots were of the "take a still picture and move the camera slowly to the side for dramatic effect" nature. I am familiar with this technique being done in almost every anime feature, but I felt Arc the Lad was using this in virtually every shot/scene. Even the action scenes were largely done this way.

Is this technique something that is largely considered a certain cinematic anime style? I haven't watched enough anime to know if this is actually something that people enjoy (and do with meaningful purpose) vs. a lack of animation for other reasons (money, time, effort, etc). I realize some anime is based on existing manga, but wasn't Arc the Lad a videogame first?
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Re: Arc the Lad

Originally posted by tsinbad
I was watching the first few episodes of Arc the Lad the other day and I got really annoyed with the lack of animation. It seemed to me that most shots were of the "take a still picture and move the camera slowly to the side for dramatic effect" nature. I am familiar with this technique being done in almost every anime feature, but I felt Arc the Lad was using this in virtually every shot/scene. Even the action scenes were largely done this way.

Is this technique something that is largely considered a certain cinematic anime style? I haven't watched enough anime to know if this is actually something that people enjoy (and do with meaningful purpose) vs. a lack of animation for other reasons (money, time, effort, etc). I realize some anime is based on existing manga, but wasn't Arc the Lad a videogame first?
Panning shots, as they are called, is very common in anime, mostly due to budgetary reasons. Remember, in Japan, budget for anime is quite small compared to budget for like animation studios here in the U.S.. So in order for these people to save money, they animate less (and is very more apparent in TV series).

I guess that for the studio to budget each episode out, they have to cut back on the animation quality.


Another reason for panning shots are for dramatic tension reasons...the same technique used by Akira Kurosawa for his movies, which tend to be the same thing, panning the actor/character. To the Japanese, this method is easily understood. To Americans, it just seems kinda slow and uninteresting.
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BAOH is about a guy who has a bioengineered parasite on him that causes him to turn into this blue superfighter whenever he finds that he is threatened. He gets superpowers but also a shortened life. He somehow escapes from his creators and they want him back. So they send a whole variety of bounty hunters after him to retrieve him. Basically, this story is geared so that there can be lots of one on one fighting a la Street Fighter. But fighting isn't very good and its really short (50 min). I wouldn't recommend paying $20 for it. Maybe $5.
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The only KOR I know of hitting DVD anytime soon is the Shin KOR: Summer's Beginning movie. Shin KOR takes place after the resolution of the TV series and OAVs, so it will spoil much of the drama for you. It appears to be enjoyable as a stand-alone, but since KOR TV has an element of "Who'll the main character end up with?", seeing the movie probably will ruin it for you.
From what I've heard, KOR should be starting its release schedule later on this year. Though I'd imagine that we'll likely see it early next year. And don't quote me on this, I just seem to remember someone on the Anime On DVD forum mentioning something about this series (go lynch him if I'm wrong! ).

Personally, I can't wait!

The only new thing I'm really looking forward to in the next two months is Crest of Stars.
Apparently Bandai dropped the ball on the first volume of this release. According to Chris Beveridge's review on Anime On DVD, the transfer leaves much to be desired.

Too bad really, by all accounts it's a great series.

I'm personally trying to save my pennies so I can eventually snag the second MKR boxset, and then bouncing in anticipation of the November release of the Utena movie (I'll finally get to have the DVD with /subtitles/! Hurray!). Having summer be kinda-slow on majormajor titles is a good thing, in my mind.
Never really quite understood the whole Utena hype, but the second box for MKR is wonderful! Fantastic packaging! Wish they had used the same box format for the first set.

What I'm really waiting for this year is the SDF Macross box set and PatLabor TV. I'm salivating just thinking about them!

Cheers,

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by raithen


Apparently Bandai dropped the ball on the first volume of this release. According to Chris Beveridge's review on Anime On DVD, the transfer leaves much to be desired.

Bandai has really started bugging me lately. First the whole Cowboy Bebop box thing, quickly followed by the hideous video quality on CoS. On the other hand, I'm /not/ buying the DVD until they remaster (If TokyoPop can do it, Bandai can as well); so I should consider myself lucky for not preordering.


Never really quite understood the whole Utena hype, but the second box for MKR is wonderful! Fantastic packaging! Wish they had used the same box format for the first set.



Maaaan, I want this thing. I actually cut up my first MKR box so I could use it like a normal boxset-case-thing. Oh--question--are the menus on this set better than on the first?
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Cowboy Bebop Music Fans!

If you dig the Cowboy Bebop tunes check out the site at the link below. He's got 5 soundtracks here in MP3 format (192Kb). I was getting about 20-30K/sec when downloading them. Does anyone know how many CB soundtracks there are?

Thanks, enjoy!

http://myhome.naver.com/jeawoni/animp3.htm
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One more thing, what's up with this Bio-Zombie anime? I have the DVD of the live action movie. Are they related in any way?

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Re: Cowboy Bebop Music Fans!

Originally posted by Chest Rockwell
If you dig the Cowboy Bebop tunes check out the site at the link below. He's got 5 soundtracks here in MP3 format (192Kb). I was getting about 20-30K/sec when downloading them. Does anyone know how many CB soundtracks there are?

Thanks, enjoy!

http://myhome.naver.com/jeawoni/animp3.htm
As far as I can remember, there are 3 official soundtracks, an EP and a remix album.

Not sure if there are any singles.

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Spring & Chaos

For anybody interested, TokyoPop is recalling their Spring & Chaos DVD. The disc had bad video caused by a bad mastering job and had dubtitles instead of true subtitles. There were a lot of people unhappy with this release and it's nice to see TokyoPop admit their mistake and release a fixed disc. Maybe Manga and CPM should take note. Here's a link to the press release. http://www.animeondvd.com/press/tokyopop/tp003.htm

Now Bandai just needs to fix their Crest of the Stars DVD. It has similar video problems and was mastered by the same authoring house, ComChoice. Here's a link to the AnimeOnDVD review that has screenshots of the video.
http://www.animeondvd.com/press/tokyopop/tp003.htm

I'll buy both of these discs as soon as they are fixed.
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I have an anime question and I hope that it is appropriate here. I've been looking to get into more anime and just recently ordered Princess Mononoke, Grave of the Fireflies, Akira, and Macross Saga Box set.

I've been wondering about the Neon Genesis Evangelion series since I see it mentioned frequently and seems to be held in high regard. From what I understand, there are currently 7 DVD's out that contain 3 - 4 episodes each (Were these episodes originally released as TV shows in Japan or what?). Exactly how many episodes are in the series and would buying each of the DVD's separately be the way to go or is there a box set of some sort coming out later?

I appreciate any help anyone can offer.
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mtucker - Evangelion was a 26 episode TV series. It will be on 8 DVDs. The last one comes out this month. So far there is no plan for a box set, so you have to buy them individually. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a box set since ADV isn't known for doing too many of those, but you never know. If you haven't started buying them, I'd wait a bit. The video on the first disc was pretty bad and ADV has said they might go back and redo it after they get the whole series out. They switched authoring houses after the first disc, and the rest of the series looks a lot better. I've seen the series before, so I just started with disc two and hope they redo disc 1. If they don't, I probably buy it eventually anyway.
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