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Old 07-22-01 | 10:07 PM
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Iron Monkey... which version?

I have heard very good things about this movie.
Which is the best version to get.
I know there is one on ebay that stiller66 is selling for $21.99 with an english language option. (#1447782901 )
Is this the best version out there.

He also sells one from China for $13.99 (# 1447782946) How is the quality of that version. The price is cheaper so I assume it isn't as good, but how much of a difference is there?
Old 07-22-01 | 10:20 PM
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I got the Mega Star version from DDDHouse and it has English 2.0, Mandarin 5.1, and Cantonese 5.1. There are 8 selectable subtitle options (including english of course). There are also a few trailers for this and other films. I love this version and if you can find it cheaper, get it. I haven't seen the US version.

Plus - I'd NEVER buy ANYTHING off of ebay again.

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Old 07-22-01 | 10:27 PM
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Thanks,
I think that the DDDhouse version is the version on ebay.

How much does the HK$130 convert to U.S.?
Old 07-22-01 | 10:29 PM
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Oh, I found the conversion on the website.... It's like 16.75
Old 07-22-01 | 11:02 PM
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The best version of the film is the HK Legends release out of R2 UK. If your player can do PAL-> NTSC, go that route.

However, if it can't, the Mega Star version is also a safe choice.
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By the way - the iron monkey going on ebay is totally a bootleg. It's NOT the Media Asia disc. Don't buy it! Mandarin only?? Stay away!!!! Ebay is the devil! I looked around at other sellers and they all seem to be selling this crappy edition. If it was legit, they wouldn't be selling it on ebay.

Bootleg
Bootleg
Bootleg...
Old 07-23-01 | 01:19 AM
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WA edition

Originally posted by Trigger
By the way - the iron monkey going on ebay is totally a bootleg. It's NOT the Media Asia disc. Don't buy it! Mandarin only?? Stay away!!!! Ebay is the devil! I looked around at other sellers and they all seem to be selling this crappy edition. If it was legit, they wouldn't be selling it on ebay.

Bootleg
Bootleg
Bootleg...
Please get your information correct beforehand (asiandvdguide is back up now, remember? Lets make use of this great resource). The disc on auction there is the legit WA release, a Mainland release via the Universe Affiliate WA. No, it is not the Megastar disc. Universe holds licensing rights for the Mainland from Media Asia, while Megastar holds licensing rights for HK from Media Asia. The contentious nature of licensing between these two is part of the reason Universe dumped a ton of their back catalouge of Media Asia titles via WA. There are bootlegs sold on ebay, but they are in the minority. Most of the Mandarin only editions are legit Taiwanese or Mainland releases. And in fact, ebay can be a much cheaper place to acquire these discs rather than online stores. And just as an aside, how much sense does your last sentence make "If it was legit, they wouldn't be selling it on ebay." ? Erm....
Old 07-23-01 | 01:30 AM
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There are two auctions from Stiller...

The first one which is more expensive looks like this



This is the cover that AsianDVDguide.com has for the MegaStar and Pioneer versions.



The second one which is a little cheaper looks like this:


This is the cover that AsianDVDguide.com lists for the WA version.

Is there a bootleg version with the MegaStar cover? I do not want that one.

(Added: I guess the pitures are only links.)
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Sorry - guess you're an ebay fan. I hate ebay so perhaps I was taking it out on them a bit. It looked like a bootleg to me because of the english title overlay on the ebay seller's page... it's more likely to be the WA disc and the english overlay was added by the seller. Anyway - no need to get snippy with me. I didn't do anything to you.

So maybe it isn't a bootleg, but just get the Mega Star release anyway since it has english dub as well as Cantonese and Mandarin 5.1.

As for my comment that if it was legit, it wouldn't be on ebay - that's more of my ebay intolerance coming through - all the luck I've had with ebay has been the bad kind. Sellers of bootleg Star Wars and Indiana Jones DVDs plague the site. Those DVDs are NOT legit, so that's why I say if it's legit it wouldn't be on ebay. I thought it made perfect sense. Legit sellers often use ebay's sister company Half.com to sell their legit titles. I don't trust ebay sellers half as far as I could throw them... but that's just me. I did find a few sellers selling a "SPECIAL EDITION" DVD of Iron Monkey which turns out to be the Mega Star DVD - I don't remember it being a "Special Edition" - so why should I trust those liars?

My advice to niiyama is good advice based on my personal experiences with that site... If you have different advice, go ahead and share it. It just seems a bit uncalled for to get on my case while doing it. I'm sorry if that isn't a bootleg, but you have to agree that the image used on the seller's page looks like a bootleg with that english writing on it. Thanks for the info on WA titles and helping me clear this up (and doing a much better job of it too)... So I'll retract my statement about it being a bootleg, but I'll still maintain my position that he buys the DVD elsewhere and gets the Mega Star version over the WA disc.
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Originally posted by niiyama
Do the covers the the different versions look the same.

The first one which is more expensive looks like this



This is the cover that AsianDVDguide.com has for the MegaStar and Pioneer versions.



The second one which is a little cheaper looks like this:


This is the cover that AsianDVDguide.com lists for the WA version.

Is there a bootleg version with the MegaStar cover? I do not want that one.
Like virtually all HK movies, there as a bootleg dvd pressed at one point for Iron Monkey. It is not commonly in circulation, nor does it tend to rear it's head on ebay. The bootleg would come in a pseudo-amaray case, looking very much different to the sort of cases Megastar use. Also it would lack the silver hologram that is used as a sign of authenticity by Megastar. Both versions in the auctions above are legitimate titles (if the product shipped matches what is pictured), though some of the other titles he is selling are not.
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Thanks for all your advice Trigger and Furious...
I am now sure that I do not want the WA release.

As for ebay, I have not have any major problems yet and the seller has a good feedback rating. If I go this route, I don't think there will be too many problems.

DDDhouse does seems to have the best price I've seen and though I have not heard of a problem with them, I am still weary about ordering from overseas.
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Originally posted by niiyama
Thanks for all your advice Trigger and Furious...
I am now sure that I do not want the WA release.

As for ebay, I have not have any major problems yet and the seller has a good feedback rating. If I go this route, I don't think there will be too many problems.

DDDhouse does seems to have the best price I've seen and though I have not heard of a problem with them, I am still weary about ordering from overseas.
You will likely not have any problems with this particular auction item via stiller. He does sell a ton of legitimate product on a regular basis so his feedback is well earned.

Regarding overseas ordering, your only concerns will be shipping time, customs, and possible parcel damage. DDDHouse is generally quite fast, they can mark parcels to help you avoid customs, but on the other side, their packaging on smaller orders is very wanting. Call me crazy but an inter-office mail style envelope doesnt make for proper packaging. That said DDDHouse has tons of satisified customers. Either way you should be fine.
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However. If you are concerned about packaging. http://www.coolashop.com (please look in the corner that says "English" and click it for english content. Because quite frankly I'm fed up of people saying there's no english content ) have the best packaging IMO, a jiffy bag then a bubble wrap sleeve. But only decent if you are ordering less than a couple at one time.
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As stated, WA is not a bootleg company, and although their releases are Mandarin audio only, they have put out some great titles like Warriors Two, Operation Scorpio, and The Sword that were neglected by other companies. US sellers on ebay are a fine place to get these discs, as well as PokerIndustires. (For Iron Monkey though, you'll want the MegaStar version), I just wanted to add a defense of of WA titles so that no misinformation was spread by itchy trigger fingers.
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I just wanted to add a defense of of WA titles so that no misinformation was spread by itchy trigger fingers.
Hey now... I retracted what I said. Universe is one of my favorite companies... I was just noting that the image used on the ebay seller's page has the WA cover with the title in english photoshopped over it and that's why it looked like a bootleg. I'll say again - WA is not a bootleg company. I'm sorry for the confusion. As for ebay, I have encountered tons of bootlegged material there - so I stay away from ebay.
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Originally posted by braintez
The best version of the film is the HK Legends release out of R2 UK. If your player can do PAL-> NTSC, go that route.
I just watched the HKL version on Sunday night and it looked great! I was very pleased with the movie as well.

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