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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
It's not noted on the pic but the listing on the Arrow website of The Mexico Trilogy says its a 4k/blu-ray combo.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial
(Post 14432356)
It's not noted on the pic but the listing on the Arrow website of The Mexico Trilogy says its a 4k/blu-ray combo.
El Mariachi and Once Upon a Time in Mexico are both BD's and Desperado is a 4K disc. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
(Post 14432373)
El Mariachi and Once Upon a Time in Mexico are both BD's and Desperado is a 4K disc.
Sounds like a rip-off set and the 4k is not even in Atmos. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14365146)
https://www.amazon.com/Shawscope-Vol...=ATVPDKIKX0DER
The Shawscope Volume 2 set is now down to $79.99. That's the lowest price it's been. I paid $89.45 in September. If you were holding out, I would jump at this. This is a quality set. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by nikkijo
(Post 14432447)
I bought mine last year and after watching the movies sold it right away. The quality is good, but the movies are not good.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by nikkijo
(Post 14432447)
I bought mine last year and after watching the movies sold it right away. The quality is good, but the movies are not good.
But, I get that some of the them like Phantom said, which feature comedy, are tough watches. My Father grew up on martial arts movies from Shaw Brothers and Golden Harvest, but he absolutely hates martial arts comedies. I'm curious why you responded to a post from 6 months ago. It's a dated post now. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by nikkijo
(Post 14432445)
I was ready to order and then decided to read the release details and read 3 times because I could not believe that they are selling a trilogy with only one movie is in 4k and other two are blu-ray.
Sounds like a rip-off set and the 4k is not even in Atmos. El Mariachi is basically a student film. It was shot on 16mm with a budget of $8,000 (yes, thousand). Even by 16mm standards, the photography is extremely soft, flat, and grainy. It was shot on the cheapest film stocks Rodriguez could scrape together from odds and odds left over from other productions. There's nothing approaching 4K detail on the negative, nor anything that would benefit from HDR. A 4K HDR transfer would only serve to over-emphasize the grain even worse than it already looks on Blu-ray. Meanwhile, Once Upon a Time in Mexico was shot in 1080p HDCAM with early digital cameras. It looked like garbage in the theater, with very smeary, video-ish photography. I'm not sure if the cameras were capable of HDR or Wide Color Gamut, either. Desperado is the only of the three movies shot on 35mm, and is by far the best-looking of them. As for Atmos, I'd personally rather have the original super-charged 5.1 mix than some Atmos remix that will invariably water down the bass, because sound mixers today are so timid with LFE. It's not like the movie has any action going on overhead, anyway. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
(Post 14432482)
The 36th Chamber of Shaolin and The Kid With the Golden Arm are martial arts classics in that set. A couple of the comedies aren't great but it's essential for any veteran Shaw Brothers viewer.
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14432485)
I'm curious why you responded to a post from 6 months ago. It's a dated post now.
Totally agree with the thoughts shared above about the Shaw films, too, and I’d add that they’re all important as a body of work from one studio— even the full-on comedies (not just the martial arts ones) and all the other genres that, as I’ve expected from the start of these reissues, the western boutiques have steadfastly avoided, even as one-offs. It would be cool if a label like, say, Radiance or Kani took a chance and released even a single musical, or 60’s spy film, or 70’s crime thriller, just so people in the west could finally see that the studio, and Hong Kong, was about so much more than the ‘chop-socky’ martial arts films most commonly associated with that era, and the city, thanks to distributors both there and over here. Oh well, I can dream. :) |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14432639)
It would be cool if a label like, say, Radiance or Kani took a chance and released even a single musical, or 60’s spy film, or 70’s crime thriller, just so people in the west could finally see that the studio, and Hong Kong, was about so much more than the ‘chop-socky’ martial arts films most commonly associated with that era, and the city, thanks to distributors both there and over here. Oh well, I can dream. :)
I’m still holding out hope for Super Inframan myself. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 14432825)
I could’ve sworn I read somewhere that ShawScope vols. 3 and 4 would branch out more, but I can’t quickly find that quote from James Flower (or whoever it was).
I’m still holding out hope for Super Inframan myself. |
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Here’s the quote I was thinking of, although I misremembered elements of it for sure.
I wasn't involved with picking the titles for Volumes 1 & 2 but have been more involved with the new package we're acquiring for Volumes 3 & 4, which does indeed veer away from kung fu a lot more. I picked the name Shawscope for our boxsets specifically so we could go into new territory in the future, and that is indeed the strategy: hopefully by now we've hooked enough people with the kung fu sets that will now be willing to go on a journey into other kinds of Shaws films with us. Indeed, working on the extras gave me a whole other list of films I'm desperately keen to see! That said, I doubt you'll see us doing the operas, melodramas and comedies anytime soon - they just aren't commercially viable at the scale we're working to with the new restorations and collectable packaging, which means genre films inevitably become the key focus. (Indeed, I'm not convinced a huangmei diao set would fly off the shelves even with just the existing Celestial masters, basic packaging and minimal extras to keep production costs down.) I'm sure we'll release more Shaws kung fu films in the future too, but we're happy to go on a bit of a tangent for now - especially as we have plenty of Golden Harvest films from Fortune Star lined up too. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 14432825)
I could’ve sworn I read somewhere that ShawScope vols. 3 and 4 would branch out more, but I can’t quickly find that quote from James Flower (or whoever it was).
I’m still holding out hope for Super Inframan myself. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
(Post 14432482)
The 36th Chamber of Shaolin and The Kid With the Golden Arm are martial arts classics in that set. A couple of the comedies aren't great but it's essential for any veteran Shaw Brothers viewer.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by DJariya
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You're entitled to your opinion and movies are subjective. But, the Shaw Brothers film library is for the most part considered classic martial arts cinema. I understand you said you didn't like the movies, but the set also features hours and hours of educational bonus material on HK cinema. Most of which aren't movie specific.
But, I get that some of the them like Phantom said, which feature comedy, are tough watches. My Father grew up on martial arts movies from Shaw Brothers and Golden Harvest, but he absolutely hates martial arts comedies. I'm curious why you responded to a post from 6 months ago. It's a dated post now. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 14432825)
I could’ve sworn I read somewhere that ShawScope vols. 3 and 4 would branch out more, but I can’t quickly find that quote from James Flower (or whoever it was).
I’m still holding out hope for Super Inframan myself. |
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Good to know something’s coming. This ‘teaser’ stuff is so tiresome (yay social media) but I suppose that green gives off a certain horror vibe.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Unobstructed View posted the box and titles for ShawScope vol. 3. Spoilering in case anyone still wants to be surprised tomorrow:
Spoiler:
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
I'm not going to get it right away. I waited until Volume 2 dropped to $89 before I finally pulled the trigger and it dropped to an all-time low of $79.99 last December.
I'm sure most of you who own the 1st 2 volumes haven't even watched or gone through the entire sets yet. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
I'm not sure this is really branching out that far from the titles Arrow has already released (like they've hinted at), but this is an awesome set. I think this crosses off just about every title I had left on my "must have" SB list. Not that there aren't dozens (hundreds?) of great choices left, but everything we get after this is mostly gravy to me.
Now if only I could get my hands on the reality stone and fix it so that Arrow were the ones to have released the Ti Lung/David Chiang collection instead of Shout... |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14434626)
I'm sure most of you who own the 1st 2 volumes haven't even watched or gone through the entire sets yet.
Originally Posted by rocket1312
(Post 14434643)
I'm not sure this is really branching out that far from the titles Arrow has already released (like they've hinted at), but this is an awesome set. I think this crosses off just about every title I had left on my "must have" SB list. Not that there aren't dozens (hundreds?) of great choices left, but everything we get after this is mostly gravy to me.
Now if only I could get my hands on the reality stone and fix it so that Arrow were the ones to have released the Ti Lung/David Chiang collection instead of Shout... Agreed that this wuxia box does present an ideal cross-section of titles (also agreed that wuxia doesn’t branch that far from their other martial arts titles), but there are easily another batch or two that could easily fill a couple more sets, though personally I think they should just do a horror set for Volume 4 and maybe call it a day. Of course, then they’ll announce a Volume 5 and 6! :lol: |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14434626)
I'm sure most of you who own the 1st 2 volumes haven't even watched or gone through the entire sets yet.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
I’m assuming this might be tied to the release of Volume 3, but Arrow just dropped SHAWSCOPE VOL. 2 to $72.50, which seems like a new low for those who’ve been on the fence. This doesn’t seem to be part of a bigger sale, so I don’t know how long it’s active. I mentioned previously in this thread that wishlisting items at Arrow generates price-drop notifications via email and that’s how this came to me (even though I already have the set):
https://www.arrowvideo.com/shawscope.../13941080.html |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14434932)
I’m assuming this might be tied to the release of Volume 3, but Arrow just dropped SHAWSCOPE VOL. 2 to $72.50, which seems like a new low for those who’ve been on the fence.
With this collection, apparently we'll have 115 Shaw titles on BD in the U.S. |
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Wow, I hadn't realized so many Shaw films had made it to BD. I remember even as late as 2016 we had virtually nothing.
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Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
(Post 14435236)
Wow, I hadn't realized so many Shaw films had made it to BD. I remember even as late as 2016 we had virtually nothing.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...f971c26c42.png |
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