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DJariya 08-10-19 07:06 AM
Star Wars saga -- Disney BD re-release
 
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The Digital Bits posted a blurb about this.

The above is reportedly the "leaked" artwork for the new Disney re-releases of the entire saga up to now.

A 4K UHD release is supposedly also in the works for 2020.

Ringmaster 08-10-19 08:35 AM
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I saw when these went up on Amazon and got excited for a minute because I thought it was for the original versions of the OT. Oh well.

milo bloom 08-10-19 08:53 AM
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They’re just to have something new on the shelves for the new movie.

I kinda dig the presentation though, if I had been waiting to buy I’d be grabbing these.

Mike86 08-10-19 08:59 AM
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I’ve still held strong on not buying any Star Wars until we get proper releases of the original Original Trilogy. I will say though that I like the presentation for these releases. Very nice and uniform looking.

TGM 08-10-19 09:05 AM
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I've got them all on digital. The only thing I'd buy again on BR or 4K is the original unedited trilogy.

Ranger 08-10-19 09:31 AM
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Why bother with this if 4K is coming in 2020?

But maybe this BD/DVD re-release is from the new 4K masters.

I'd guess Disney takes away Fox opening from I-III and V-VI like with the digital copies.

Michael Corvin 08-10-19 09:47 AM
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4K or bust.

Decker 08-10-19 10:21 AM
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First time the OT or PT releases come with digital copies , FWIW.

Toddarino 08-10-19 10:42 AM
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Add me to the list of those still waiting for the OOT.
I don’t have 4K yet, but next year I’m probably gonna finally move on from my Panasonic plasma. That would be a great first purchase.

DJariya 08-10-19 10:43 AM
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I'm guessing they will probably do a 4K release of these movies when episode 9 comes out to home video around April-ish 2020.

Ranger 08-10-19 04:17 PM
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D23 is later this month and should have more details.

I already have the digital copies on iTunes. So they gotta release the OOT.

melasnus 08-10-19 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 13591885)
A 4K UHD release is supposedly also in the works for 2020.
I'll wait for that.

stvn1974 08-10-19 05:23 PM
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Will new cover art make The Last Jedi less shitty?

E Unit 08-10-19 05:52 PM
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Did Lucasfilm ever finish converting the OT films to 3D? Too bad those were never released.

stvn1974 08-10-19 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by E Unit (Post 13592091)
Did Lucasfilm ever finish converting the OT films to 3D? Too bad those were never released.
I don't think they ever started on the OT. The Phantom Menace was released to theaters and Attack Of The Clones was shown at one of the Celebrations not sure it Revenge Of The Sith was also or not.

JeffTheAlpaca 08-10-19 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 13591915)
I’ve still held strong on not buying any Star Wars until we get proper releases of the original Original Trilogy. I will say though that I like the presentation for these releases. Very nice and uniform looking.
Just cave in since that is never going to happen

I don''t see how these releases will be better than the other editions?


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E Unit 08-10-19 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 13592095)
I don't think they ever started on the OT. The Phantom Menace was released to theaters and Attack Of The Clones was shown at one of the Celebrations not sure it Revenge Of The Sith was also or not.
Ah, my bad. That's right, they began with the prequels. I wonder where they stopped.

mcnabb 08-10-19 09:05 PM
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Are they selling these individually, or is it 1 big boxset? I only want 4,5,6,7,8 as I like the new cover art, and I'm OCD so I've been waiting for a uniform set by Disney.

Josh-da-man 08-10-19 09:07 PM
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Those covers are really blah. Monochromatic, floating heads, big black border taking up real estate. They look like they're just going to blend in with all of the other shit on the shelves. They're almost as bad as the ST:TNG blu-rays.

Spiderbite 08-10-19 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 13592109)
Just cave in since that is never going to happen
I have waited. I can't cave in because I have zero interest in rewatching the revised versions.

It sucks but at least there are quality bootlegs out there of the OOT.

Mike86 08-10-19 09:59 PM
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Yeah, I have a place I could readily get the unaltered versions on disc. Haven’t broke down on them yet but I might.

I just find it dumb that the unaltered versions can’t be offered alongside the special editions. There’s really not a reason for it other than stubbornness.

DJariya 08-10-19 11:47 PM
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According to Amazon, these come out next month.

Ans yes yes they are sold individually. Pre orders are now available.

ViewAskewbian 08-11-19 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Spiderbite (Post 13592167)
I have waited. I can't cave in because I have zero interest in rewatching the revised versions.

It sucks but at least there are quality bootlegs out there of the OOT.
Well, they did also release the OOT on DVD in 2006 as a "special feature" for another special edition re-release (https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ori...ltered_trilogy). I've kept those. Sure, they aren't uber cleaned up like a blu but, to be honest, it's how I remember them as a kid and I kinda' dig the little blemishes. Anywho, the OOT official release is out there. I just paired them with the Complete Saga Blus, kept Empire of Dreams from a previous release, got R1, Solo and the new trilogy seperate and that's my uber edition on my self. :p

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Gizmo 08-11-19 09:38 AM
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Eh. Cool they finally come with digital codes now that’s Disney owns Fox but I bought these digitally years ago.

And I doubt the Original unaltered trilogy will ever see release unless Lucas dies. It’s almost 2020 and the amount of people who would still buy them (or even care) gets smaller every year. Maybe a D+ release. Gotta imagine they would have to restore all three movies and that’s gotta cost some serious bucks

rocket1312 08-11-19 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 13592260)
It’s almost 2020 and the amount of people who would still buy them (or even care) gets smaller every year. Maybe a D+ release. Gotta imagine they would have to restore all three movies and that’s gotta cost some serious bucks
And yet every year plenty of older, more obscure and far more problematic (from a restoration perspective) films get loving restorations. None of which are owned by a literal money factory like Disney. I've never bought the cost excuse. It is and always has been about the desire (or lack thereof) to actually do it.

milo bloom 08-11-19 12:03 PM
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It’s not cost and at this point I doubt it’s because of some perceived “gentleman’s agreement” between George and Disney.

When he allowed the release of the laserdisc copies on DVD he showed he wasn’t interested in suppressing them, he just didn’t care enough to want to bother.

Disney would have no qualms about paying the money if they thought they could move a few extra copies. Like rocket1312 just said, other studios restore and release all kinds of c-list horror stuff all the time. Disney could do this with they change they fish out of the fountain at Disneyworld.

I’d bet even money we’ll see them next year with the home video release of TROS.

Gizmo 08-11-19 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 13592290)
And yet every year plenty of older, more obscure and far more problematic (from a restoration perspective) films get loving restorations. None of which are owned by a literal money factory like Disney. I've never bought the cost excuse. It is and always has been about the desire (or lack thereof) to actually do it.
Yes, but there is already a perfectly acceptable print of all the Star Wars movies available. What does Disney gain by spending the money to restore the original unaltered trilogy? Physical sales are in the toilet and not it going up. We are already in Star Wars overload with movies seemingly every year and a dozen shows in development. It’s no longer an event.

Obi-Wanma 08-11-19 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ViewAskewbian (Post 13592248)
Well, they did also release the OOT on DVD in 2006 as a "special feature" for another special edition re-release (https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ori...ltered_trilogy). I've kept those. Sure, they aren't uber cleaned up like a blu but, to be honest, it's how I remember them as a kid and I kinda' dig the little blemishes. Anywho, the OOT official release is out there. I just paired them with the Complete Saga Blus, kept Empire of Dreams from a previous release, got R1, Solo and the new trilogy seperate and that's my uber edition on my self. :p
I had those, but I sold them a few years back. The fact that they are non-anamorphic is ridiculous and a deal breaker for me. I can't watch them letterboxed on all 4 sides or zoomed in. I was never going to watch and enjoy them that way, so I sold them.

Mike86 08-11-19 05:49 PM
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I don’t know the details about remastering a film so maybe I’m just ignorant, but I don’t see why it would cost that much to do a restoration of the unaltered films really. I mean given that the films already have HD remasters and are getting remastered for 4K it shouldn’t be that hard to restore the unaltered parts. The bulk of the films already are ready for release. Couldn't the unaltered parts just get newly done masters and be spliced in with what already exists? I mean maybe that’s not ideally the way to do it but I don’t see why that wouldn’t be possible for the sake of argument if it’s deemed too expensive to do a full remaster.

Dan 08-11-19 06:02 PM
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I just want Rogue One in 4K, so I'll wait until that happens.

rocket1312 08-11-19 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 13592302)
Yes, but there is already a perfectly acceptable print of all the Star Wars movies available. What does Disney gain by spending the money to restore the original unaltered trilogy? Physical sales are in the toilet and not it going up. We are already in Star Wars overload with movies seemingly every year and a dozen shows in development. It’s no longer an event.
I'll agree with you that the reason it hasn't been done already is because Disney is fine peddling the version they have (that and the fact that until this year the Fox situation was an impediment), but I'd argue that the current masters are hardly acceptable by 2019 standards. They were barely acceptable when they were originally released. And the fact that they are only 1080p means that in order to do 4k the whole deal needed to be rescanned anyways. Why not just go the extra mile and do the originals? Presumably the elements they'd scan for 4k are only configured to the 97 versions, so they'd have to do extra work anyways if they want to reproduce whatever the current versions are. And whatever lack of demand is still out there for physical media isn't preventing other studios from doing these sorts of restorations. If any film or films can hope to recoup the costs involved, I think it'd be Star Wars.

Shannon Nutt 08-12-19 06:38 AM
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It's just a repackaging to dump inventory before a complete saga set gets released in the near future, along with a 4K set. I wouldn't expect that set at the same time that The Rise of Skywalker hits home video, however. My guess is they'll release the final film in April or May of 2020, but hold off the new complete saga set until November.

melasnus 08-12-19 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 13592414)
I just want Rogue One in 4K, so I'll wait until that happens.
R1 is a decent movie, but the only Disney SW movie that really FEELS like a Star Wars movie is Solo and I already have it in 4K UHD.
The OT films are the movies I would be willing to upgrade from 2K to 4K in the future.

orangerunner 08-12-19 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 13592302)
What does Disney gain by spending the money to restore the original unaltered trilogy?
Hmmm... A lot more money? After spending 4 billion on the Star Wars franchise, I imagine as good capitalists they would want to wring-out every dime they possibly could.

When the Limited Edition DVDs came out with the non-anamorphic versions of the original Star Wars trilogy that was more of a response to the growing number of pirated versions of the Laserdisc transfer that were circulating on-line at the time.

Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 13592302)
Physical sales are in the toilet and not it going up. .
True but there still seems to be financial incentives to release Gremlins, Red Heat and many more lower-tier titles in 4K. Given the influence and historical value of these films, don't the original versions deserve to be preserved correctly regardless of whatever format they exist on? Maybe they have been and were created with the understanding that they would never be made available to the public on a consumer video format.

George Lucas opposing the release of these original films is about the only plausible reason I can see as to why we haven't seen them yet. He sold the franchise but perhaps those are the cards he's keeping to himself.

fujishig 08-12-19 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 13592302)
Yes, but there is already a perfectly acceptable print of all the Star Wars movies available. What does Disney gain by spending the money to restore the original unaltered trilogy? Physical sales are in the toilet and not it going up. We are already in Star Wars overload with movies seemingly every year and a dozen shows in development. It’s no longer an event.
The people that are interested in the original unaltered trilogy will buy it in addition to whatever else they release. So I think at some point, when there's a lull (if there ever is one), it makes sense for them to do it. I mean, there's really no reason for them to re-release these now with new covers and I'm sure they will still sell a bunch.

Even if they do it as some massive collectors set as an extra it would sell a ton of copies, I'd think.

OldBoy 08-12-19 12:30 PM
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Disney has raped my adulthood...yet again.

rocket1312 08-12-19 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13592644)
The people that are interested in the original unaltered trilogy will buy it in addition to whatever else they release. So I think at some point, when there's a lull (if there ever is one), it makes sense for them to do it. I mean, there's really no reason for them to re-release these now with new covers and I'm sure they will still sell a bunch.

Even if they do it as some massive collectors set as an extra it would sell a ton of copies, I'd think.
Even beyond that, it behooves Disney to archive the original versions before it's too late so that they're not just lost to history. Even if that doesn't mean a physical release now or in the near future, it's all about asset protection. Who knows, 25 years from now Disney might be in a position to monetize the original trilogy in a way they never could have foreseen. The point is that no one knows, and it's better to be safe than sorry. I'd certainly feel a whole lot better if, say, Sony controlled the franchise, but hopefully Disney will step up to the plate.

JoeyOhhhh 08-12-19 01:17 PM
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Based on Disney's past efforts to acquire Oswald the Lucky Rabbit shorts that weren't in there possession, I cannot see Disney passing up opportunity to acquire prints of the UOT if they don't already have them. And I am sure at some point they will release them, original trilogy fans only getting older and only so much cash they can squeeze out of us.

milo bloom 08-12-19 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 13592678)
Even beyond that, it behooves Disney to archive the original versions before it's too late so that they're not just lost to history. Even if that doesn't mean a physical release now or in the near future, it's all about asset protection. Who knows, 25 years from now Disney might be in a position to monetize the original trilogy in a way they never could have foreseen. The point is that no one knows, and it's better to be safe than sorry. I'd certainly feel a whole lot better if, say, Sony controlled the franchise, but hopefully Disney will step up to the plate.
I hope they think like that. Paramount is refusing to remaster DS9 and VOY in HD, even though it would make them easier to sell into syndication. But since it's only three films, Disney may see the benefit of doing the OT.

Originally Posted by JoeyOhhhh (Post 13592683)
Based on Disney's past efforts to acquire Oswald the Lucky Rabbit shorts that weren't in there possession, I cannot see Disney passing up opportunity to acquire prints of the UOT if they don't already have them. And I am sure at some point they will release them, original trilogy fans only getting older and only so much cash they can squeeze out of us.
That's a sobering thought. We're not getting any younger, and even if we try to introduce our kids to the UOT, many of them will still be fine with the SE versions.

Mike86 08-12-19 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 13592774)
I hope they think like that. Paramount is refusing to remaster DS9 and VOY in HD, even though it would make them easier to sell into syndication. But since it's only three films, Disney may see the benefit of doing the OT.
That’s a pretty different situation though. We got remastered TOS and TNG because they were deemed popular enough and they didn’t sell all that well. I really doubt that they’re wanting to sink more into two shows that are viewed as less popular (I know DS9 especially has a following, and I’m starting to appreciate it more but doubt it would be a hot seller). It’s a pretty big commitment to ask them to remaster seven seasons that also likely need to have the effects re-done (as was the case with TNG).


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