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EinCB 06-07-17 09:11 PM

Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 

While we’re talking 4K UHD today, we’ve also now begun to hear from international retail sources that Warner Bros. will be releasing Ridley Scott’s original Blade Runner on 4K Ultra HD later this year, as we’ve been saying for several month now, probably at the same time Blade Runner: 2049 arrives on BD and 4K. As you know, 2017 marks the film’s 35th anniversary. In addition to these reports, Amazon France has now listed the title as coming soon on the format with no street date given. Sources suggest that the release is expected to include at least Blade Runner: The Final Cut (see our review here) in 4K UHD format, with all 3 legacy audio commentary tracks (one with director Ridley Scott, one with Hampton Fancher, David Peoples, Michael Deeley, and Katherine Haber, and one with Syd Mead, Lawrence G. Paul, David L. Snyder, and Douglas Trumbull, Richard Yuricich, and David Dryer) as well as Charles de Lauzirika’s outstanding Dangerous Days: The Making of Blade Runner 214-minute documentary, presented for the first time in full HD on regular Blu-ray. (We would certainly expect a regular Blu-ray “refresh” of the title for the anniversary as well, for those aren’t 4K consumers.)

International retail sources are also confirming the planned 4K UHD release of Warner’s Wonder Woman this year, along with Blade Runner: 2049, Dunkirk, and King Arthur: Legend of the Sword. Universal’s The Mummy (2017), Van Helsing (2004), and Dracula Untold (2014), Fox’s Alien: Covenant and Prometheus, and Sony’s The Bridge on the River Kwai and Bram Stoker’s Dracula are also expected on the format this year, among other titles.

Do keep in mind that all of the above comes from retail and industry sources, all well-placed but some speaking off the record. None of it is official and none of it is to be considered official until the studios in question actually make their respective title announcements. It’s important to note that, for those of you who many not be familiar with the way the home video industry works.
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B072MHTSV4/..._ochozb8R8JW9X

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/column...ts/060717-1230

I was looking for a Blu-ray copy to buy, but if this is happening, then never mind.

E Unit 06-07-17 09:35 PM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 
Keep in mind the UHD will probably be the Final Cut only. All of the other cuts won't get upgraded. So hold onto your 5 disc sets of you still have them. I'll upgrade to finally get Dangerous Days in 1080p.

gerrythedon 06-07-17 10:05 PM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 
And that's all I care about; FINAL CUT and Dangerous Days.

Hazel Motes 06-07-17 10:46 PM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 
Blade Runner is the benchmark Blu Ray for how great a movie can look in HD. I have zero interest in a 4K UHD release. The Blu Ray is perfect in my eyes.

Doctorossi 06-08-17 07:37 AM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 

Originally Posted by Hazel Motes (Post 13090568)
Blade Runner is the benchmark Blu Ray for how great a movie can look in HD. I have zero interest in a 4K UHD release. The Blu Ray is perfect in my eyes.

:confused:

"Give me the absolute pinnacle of 1080p!

... but NOT A PIXEL MORE!!!"

DthRdrX 06-08-17 08:16 AM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 
Bladerunner was the first 'classic' to really showcase Blu-ray so this seems fitting. The one thing missing from UBD right now is older films so I'm looking forward to this.

AaronSch 06-08-17 09:23 AM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 

Originally Posted by Hazel Motes (Post 13090568)
Blade Runner is the benchmark Blu Ray for how great a movie can look in HD. I have zero interest in a 4K UHD release. The Blu Ray is perfect in my eyes.

Yeah, I'll have to pop in my Blu-ray copy and revisit it soon. I am one of the fortunate few who saw "Blade Runner" a number of times way back in 1982. It played exclusively at one of the country's last surviving grand theatres, the Cine Capri, an old style movie house in Phoenix Arizona. I spent many a weekend standing in line at the Cine Capri waiting to experience the great films of the late 1970s and early 1980s. Alas, that landmark theatre was shamelessly torn down and is but a memory. I've since watched "Blade Runner" so many times over the years that I've lost count. And I really can't imagine it looking much better on home video. Many 4K enthusiasts will say "when you do a side by side comparison..." But who does that other than the most anal retentive among us? Could we ever reach a flawless presentation that would satisfy all the video and audiophiles' technological peccadillos? I seriously doubt it. Hell, many of them aren't even old enough to have experienced the film in an actual theatre. And that is something so intangible that not even the best set-up will ever be able to duplicate. At a certain point something is lost in the translation and something "cold" results. It's the reason so many prefer listening to analog music on an ancient technology like a turntable rather than digitally. It's the reason many of the best filmmakers shun video in preference to film. Right now, I happen to share your belief that "Blade Runner" looks about as good as it gets for home viewing. But that won't stop some folks from proselytizing otherwise.

They need you to join the flock in order to satisfy their insatiable desire for a benefit that is negligible to most.

Hazel Motes 06-09-17 01:51 AM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 

Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 13090660)
:confused:

"Give me the absolute pinnacle of 1080p!

... but NOT A PIXEL MORE!!!"

It gets to a point with some old movies that any subsequent improvement beyond 1080p is really just splitting hairs in my opinion. Blade Runner looks magnificient on blu ray. I don't know how it could look any better. The whole Blade Runner Set is perfect actually. I don't see how I could be enticed to upgrade.

Hazel Motes 06-09-17 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronSch (Post 13090718)
Yeah, I'll have to pop in my Blu-ray copy and revisit it soon. I am one of the fortunate few who saw "Blade Runner" a number of times way back in 1982. It played exclusively at one of the country's last surviving grand theatres, the Cine Capri, an old style movie house in Phoenix Arizona. I spent many a weekend standing in line at the Cine Capri waiting to experience the great films of the late 1970s and early 1980s. Alas, that landmark theatre was shamelessly torn down and is but a memory. I've since watched "Blade Runner" so many times over the years that I've lost count. And I really can't imagine it looking much better on home video. Many 4K enthusiasts will say "when you do a side by side comparison..." But who does that other than the most anal retentive among us? Could we ever reach a flawless presentation that would satisfy all the video and audiophiles' technological peccadillos? I seriously doubt it. Hell, many of them aren't even old enough to have experienced the film in an actual theatre. And that is something so intangible that not even the best set-up will ever be able to duplicate. At a certain point something is lost in the translation and something "cold" results. It's the reason so many prefer listening to analog music on an ancient technology like a turntable rather than digitally. It's the reason many of the best filmmakers shun video in preference to film. Right now, I happen to share your belief that "Blade Runner" looks about as good as it gets for home viewing. But that won't stop some folks from proselytizing otherwise.

They need you to join the flock in order to satisfy their insatiable desire for a benefit that is negligible to most.

agree 100%.

It would have been cool to see Blade Runner's original theatrical run in 1982, but alas I spent most of that year in my Mother's belly. However I've seen it 3 times in a theater since then, and will probably see it again.

Unless UHD 4K offers a major improvement over any blu ray disc I have, I won't upgrade. I'll still buy 4K UHD for new films though. I'm just done doing the upgrade thing for a large portion of my collection.

E Unit 06-09-17 07:06 AM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 

Originally Posted by Hazel Motes (Post 13091452)
Blade Runner looks magnificient on blu ray. I don't know how it could look any better.

Watching it on UHD would probably help. That's just silly no older movie wouldn't benefit from a 4K upgrade, even movies out already on blu. For me, it does need to have a substantial improvement, but also upgraded sound does make a big difference for me. And if the Blade Runner UHD has HDR and Atmos it's given great reviews, it seems silly people would pass that up.

Keep in mind this is WB and Goodfellas had a shitty transfer, so there's that.

Doctorossi 06-09-17 08:10 AM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 

Originally Posted by E Unit (Post 13091505)
Watching it on UHD would probably help.

Quite. I can see how it would be difficult to imagine improvement


... until you actually see it.

clckworang 06-09-17 12:17 PM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 
What's funny is that there are plenty of people who also say that an old movie won't look all that good on Blu-ray!

I'm sure I'll upgrade this one at some point. While I know the final cut would be the one I revisit the most, I do wish there was a mega set that included all the cuts. I'll just have to hang on to the Blu-ray.

EinCB 06-09-17 04:37 PM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 

Originally Posted by E Unit (Post 13091505)

Keep in mind this is WB and Goodfellas had a shitty transfer, so there's that.

Are you talking about the 4K version? What's wrong with it?

E Unit 06-09-17 07:56 PM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 
It has a shitty transfer. Check out one of many reviews.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/GoodFe...161258/#Review

EinCB 06-26-17 03:13 PM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 
4K version of the Final Cut coming on September 5 to the U.S.:


https://static.afbeeldinguploaden.nl...8/YZSfptNg.jpg

davidlynchfan 06-26-17 06:11 PM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 
I'll upgrade to UHDs when they can be had for $5.

Rypro 525 06-26-17 10:52 PM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 
the Blu-ray.com forum is going nuts because they think this will be a glorified scanned at 2k upconvert. Wasn't the Final cut in 2007 scanned at 4K?

zekeburger1979 06-27-17 01:56 AM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 

Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 13103790)
the Blu-ray.com forum is going nuts because they think this will be a glorified scanned at 2k upconvert. Wasn't the Final cut in 2007 scanned at 4K?

It was scanned at 4K and some of the 65mm visual effects were scanned at 8K. The documentary Dangerous Days was shot in HD, but released only on DVD. I hope this gets upgraded.

Doctorossi 06-27-17 07:51 AM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 

Originally Posted by davidlynchfan (Post 13103640)
I'll upgrade to UHDs when they can be had for $5.

Noted in my binder. Thanks for the update!

Giles 06-27-17 08:40 AM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 
while I'll advocate for the original sound mix, it's great that Warner's went with Dolby Atmos and not DTS-X.

Why So Blu? 06-27-17 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by zekeburger1979 (Post 13103828)
It was scanned at 4K and some of the 65mm visual effects were scanned at 8K. The documentary Dangerous Days was shot in HD, but released only on DVD. I hope this gets upgraded.



What do you mean? I thought that doc was always a Blu-ray or HD-DVD when released.

Josh Z 06-27-17 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 13103924)
What do you mean? I thought that doc was always a Blu-ray or HD-DVD when released.

The original Blade Runner 5-disc Ultimate Collector's Edition (the one in the plastic briefcase) contained 3 Blu-rays for the multiple cuts of the film and 2 DVDs for the bonus features.

Later reissues consolidated the bonus features onto the Blu-ray discs, still encoded at standard definition.

Jaymole 06-27-17 12:38 PM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 

Originally Posted by zekeburger1979 (Post 13103828)
It was scanned at 4K and some of the 65mm visual effects were scanned at 8K.

I will wait for 8K release before I upgrade then.

Why So Blu? 06-27-17 12:57 PM

re: Blade Runner in 4K UHD - 9/5/17
 

Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 13103933)
The original Blade Runner 5-disc Ultimate Collector's Edition (the one in the plastic briefcase) contained 3 Blu-rays for the multiple cuts of the film and 2 DVDs for the bonus features.

Later reissues consolidated the bonus features onto the Blu-ray discs, still encoded at standard definition.



Ah, gotcha.

mattysemo247 06-27-17 03:59 PM

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The 4K Blu-ray disc of Blade Runner: The Final Cut will feature a Dolby Atmos soundtrack remixed specifically for the home theater environment to place and move audio anywhere in the room, including overhead.


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