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Old 02-10-15 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BSTNFAN
Ultraviolet only got the PG-13 cut on Blu.
The Japanese Blu-ray is the unrated version.
Old 02-10-15 | 09:24 PM
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Updated. Thanks and keep them coming.
Old 02-10-15 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by My Other Self
The original releases were the theatrical cut. The Die Had 4.0 release as part of the 25th Anniversary Die Hard Legacy Collection set was uncut (advertised as "The Harder Edition" in Australia).

I take back my original statement on just the US getting the shaft -- I was under the impression Fox released it uncut in all other territories.
I had no idea. Why the hell didn't it get released in the US in the anniversary boxed set?

Looks like it was just released in Australia and Germany. If you're so inclined (and its region free):

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/movies-tv-...ection/494584/

The German release was an Amazon.de exclusive and has long sold out, but you can see the disc in the image on its page:

http://www.amazon.de/Langsam-Collect...ard+legacy+blu

Or, if you just want to buy digitally, here's the Vudu listing:

http://www.vudu.com/movies/#!overvie...e-Hard-Unrated
I think I'll just get the Australian release, does their boxed set have the same as the one released in the US? I don't have the films on Blu yet, I could just get that, especially if it's region-free.

No. But someone is working on a fanmade reconstruction, ala Harmy OOT edits.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/top...p/topic/16803/

I'm not sure if a dual-layer 50GB disc would be enough space to offer both cuts of the film.
I know, I hang out there . Have to get those Harmy edits one of these days...

Does branching take up a lot of disc space?
Old 02-11-15 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
Zodiac. The home video release is labeled "director's cut," still rated R, and the theatrical cut was also rated R but had no such label. It could be a grey area, though, as the TC version may just be Fincher's preferred cut, but his interviews indicate otherwise. Anyway.
Actually, the Blu-ray only has the director's cut with the intended (as much as possible) intermission. The DVD has the theatrical cut that Fincher made to appease Paramount who didn't want an intermission. The fear being that most audiences would leave not understanding an intermission.

Some audience left Grindhouse after Planet Terror as they were unaware of the "double feature" nature of the film.
Old 02-12-15 | 02:07 AM
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^wait, the 3 or 4 minute "black screen" with sounds that audiolize (is that a word?) the passage of time in the DC of Zodiac is supposed to be an "intermission"?
Old 02-12-15 | 11:35 AM
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^wait, the 3 or 4 minute "black screen" with sounds that audiolize (is that a word?) the passage of time in the DC of Zodiac is supposed to be an "intermission"?
Yes.
Old 02-13-15 | 01:19 PM
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All blu-rays of Besson's The Big Blue are European/Extended cuts only. Not the much shorter U.S. cut with a replacement score by Conti.
Old 02-13-15 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil ASh
All blu-rays of Besson's The Big Blue are European/Extended cuts only. Not the much shorter U.S. cut with a replacement score by Conti.
The dvd is 3 hrs, how long is the longer cut?
Old 02-13-15 | 01:58 PM
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the running time I'm seeing for the extended cut of 'The Big Blue' is between 163-168 minutes in length.
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My DVD is 168.
Old 02-15-15 | 04:40 PM
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American cut of The Big Blue is 118 minutes.
European theatrical is 132.
Extended (aka Director's aka Version Intégrale) is 168.

EDIT: Oops. It looks like US cut was never released on DVD in the first place. Oh well. Sorry.

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Old 02-16-15 | 11:08 AM
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The U.S. theatrical cut of Enter the Dragon never made it to DVD or BD. The only way to get an OAR U.S. cut is the LD from 1994.
Old 02-19-15 | 06:11 PM
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The director's cut version of Windtalkers isn't on BD as far as I know.
Old 02-20-15 | 04:01 AM
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Some of these might be available on Blu-ray in non-US regions. I didn't check.

Black Hawk Down - Extended Cut (DVD), Theatrical Cut only (Blu-ray)
Blade Trinity - Theatrical Version (DVD), Unrated Version only (Blu-ray)
Dead Poets Society - Extended Version (Laserdisc), Theatrical Version only (Blu-ray)
Dune - Extended Edition (DVD), Theatrical Version only (Blu-ray)
Metropolis (1927) - Less-complete (DVD), Complete (Blu-ray)
The Natural - Director's Cut (DVD), Theatrical Version only (Blu-ray)
Robocop (1987) - Theatrical Version (DVD), Unrated Director's Cut only (Blu-ray)
Stripes - Theatrical Cut (DVD), Extended Cut only (Blu-ray)
Tears of the Sun - Director's Cut (DVD), Theatrical Cut only (Blu-ray)


And here's the different Star Wars versions:

Star Wars Original Trilogy
Original (DVD, using 1995 Laserdisc transfer)
1997 Special Edition (Laserdisc, VHS)
2004 Special Edition (DVD)
2011 Special Edition (Blu-ray)
Old 02-20-15 | 08:48 AM
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Re: DVDs with cuts of the films missing from the Blu-rays

The Blu-ray of the horror movie 1408 (which was based on a Stephen King short story) only has the director's cut ending and not the original theatrical ending (it's not even included as a deleted scene in the bonus features). The DVD 2-disc release does have the original theatrical ending (I know because I also bought it after being surprised by the ending's complete omission from the Blu-ray).

It's a shame because I think the original theatrical ending is better than the director's cut ending (which is darker but just doesn't seem to work as well).

I don't know about releases in other regions, though.
Old 02-20-15 | 09:02 AM
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Re: DVDs with cuts of the films missing from the Blu-rays

Windtalkers (2002)

Runtime: 134 min | 153 min (director's cut)

Only the theatrical on Blu-ray.
Old 02-20-15 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBang
Some of these might be available on Blu-ray in non-US regions. I didn't check.

Dune - Extended Edition (DVD), Theatrical Version only (Blu-ray)
The extended "Alan Smithee" TV version of Dune was released on Blu-ray in Germany. Be warned, however, that some copies are upconverted from standard-def in 4:3 pan&scan. A later re-release has the proper widescreen version in high-def.

I believe this is the good one:
http://www.amazon.de/Dune-W%C3%BCste...dp/B00MXNFHPU/
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Are you able to comment on the quality of that German release of the extended cut of DUNE? Hopefully it is decent PQ, has non-forced subtitles, and is encoded onto a BD50. Have never seen that 'Alan Smithee' cut, and am thinking of taking the plunge on placing an order for that Blu if the reviews and specs are decent.
Old 02-22-15 | 02:46 AM
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I read that Wild Orchid (classic early 90s soft core flick w Mickey Rourke & Carrie Otis) will only be theatrical cut on blu
Old 02-23-15 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by zyzzle
Are you able to comment on the quality of that German release of the extended cut of DUNE? Hopefully it is decent PQ, has non-forced subtitles, and is encoded onto a BD50. Have never seen that 'Alan Smithee' cut, and am thinking of taking the plunge on placing an order for that Blu if the reviews and specs are decent.
I haven't gotten around to ordering that one yet. I believe Dune must somehow be in the Public Domain in Germany due to a weird legal loophole. The movie has been released on DVD about 30 different times and on Blu-ray about 20 times in that country, by a dozen different distributors, often overlapping with one another. I can't keep up with them all.

Almost all of these discs are terrible quality. Considering how much I loathe the Alan Smithee cut of the movie, I've been in no hurry to buy the disc.
Old 02-23-15 | 07:53 PM
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The Alan Smithee cut of the film has a weird following unto itself, for whatever reason.
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Almost all of these discs are terrible quality. Considering how much I loathe the Alan Smithee cut of the movie, I've been in no hurry to buy the disc.
I have no opinion either way. Have heard conflicting stories, some say the additional 50 minutes fleshes out some of the confusing and / or nonsensical elements of the plot. Others have said it just spoon-feeds everything to the viewer. But, all the same, I'm interested in seeing it after hearing about it for 30 years, as a curiosity if anything else. It would be especially interesting to watch it in its OAR, as you seem to indicate the German BD is indeed Panavision.
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Originally Posted by Josh Z

Almost all of these discs are terrible quality. Considering how much I loathe the Alan Smithee cut of the movie, I've been in no hurry to buy the disc.
I never realized that Alan Smithee has an IMDB entry, which doesn't list Dune.

"Alan Smithee has no distinguishable style, nor is it usually apparent what director he is taking the credit for."
Old 02-24-15 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dhmac
The Blu-ray of the horror movie 1408 (which was based on a Stephen King short story) only has the director's cut ending and not the original theatrical ending (it's not even included as a deleted scene in the bonus features). The DVD 2-disc release does have the original theatrical ending (I know because I also bought it after being surprised by the ending's complete omission from the Blu-ray).

It's a shame because I think the original theatrical ending is better than the director's cut ending (which is darker but just doesn't seem to work as well).

I don't know about releases in other regions, though.
The region free German Blu-ray contains both versions.
Old 02-24-15 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by zyzzle
I have no opinion either way. Have heard conflicting stories, some say the additional 50 minutes fleshes out some of the confusing and / or nonsensical elements of the plot. Others have said it just spoon-feeds everything to the viewer.
The problem with the TV edit is that it was compiled by incompetent hacks who had apparently never actually seen a movie before in their lives and had no idea how film language works.

"Hey, I need a spaceship shot here. You got any of those?"
"Sure, how about this shot we used in the last 15 scenes?"
"OK. Wait, is that even the same spaceship as the other angle I'm cutting from?"
"Who cares? It's just a movie."
"You're totally right! Thanks!"

"Oh crap, I don't have any special effects shots to put in this scene."
"How about you just put in a cartoon drawing? Nobody will know the difference."
"That's such a great idea! You're a genius!"

But, all the same, I'm interested in seeing it after hearing about it for 30 years, as a curiosity if anything else. It would be especially interesting to watch it in its OAR, as you seem to indicate the German BD is indeed Panavision.
That's what I'm told. I don't have the disc to confirm.


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