I'm still rocking my 1080P Samsung DLP from about 7 years ago. The TV still rocks and has only needed the bulb replaced a couple years ago. My Dad has a Panasonic plasma but I still think the blacks look better on mine

Yes, the rollout and timing of all these critical features has been a total clusterfuck that practically no one in the intended consumer target audience understands at all.

A year from now, trying explaining to someone that the alleged 4k TV they bought in mid to late 2015 is not compatible with the 4k UHDBD player released in early 2016 because it doesn't have the right type of HDMI input on the back.

When my 1080P Sony dies I will just go back to reading books by candlelight.

That's hard to believe. Without HDCP 2.2 you're not getting 4K content period (unless it's from youtube or your camcorder). I have a 2013 model and it has both HDMI 2.0 (all ports) and HDCP 2.2 (port 4).

If the video isn't copy protected (like via streaming, youtube, or any non-protected discs), you can view 4K content. If it's copy protected then you get restrictions.

Or for those who have a 2013 or later Samsung 4K set, you can *hope* that this functionality is included in a future Evolution kit. I'm betting it will be.

HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 compliance are a safe bet. Rec. 2020, however, is unlikely. As far as I understand, that's a panel limitation. So unless the Evolution kit includes a brand new TV, you won't have a Rec. 2020 compliant UHDTV.

Although there is some dissent regarding Rec. 2020. It's believed by some that the new color space is so wide that certain people might have radically different perceptions of the same colors. Similar to the issue with the infamous dress.

Most of the clusterfuck has to do with DRM and copy protection... I'll say that if the studios, MPAA, et al just got their heads out their asses and realized it's a losing battle, they could get on with making money and advancing hidef without all the confusion and platitudes.

That said, I *still* wouldn't upgrade since I'd need an 80"+ set and/or a projection screen in a huge home theatre room to be able to easilly tell the difference between 4k and 1080p...

Ah I see Rec. 2020 will require a 10 or 12 bit panel. Well at least my Samsung HU8550 supports HDCP 2.2 already.

Star Wars
Lord of the Rings
Alien/Aliens
Indiana Jones
Pulp Fiction
Jaws

That's about all I'd be willing to upgrade to UHD.

Since I got a blu-ray player, I'd say that I haven't upgraded probably 90% of my DVDs, and I'll still buy DVDs for some older 'cult' titles that aren't going to benefit much from 1080p.

This holds moreso for UHDBR. Blu-ray and DVD are going to be good enough for 99% of my library.

Never gonna happen. DRM and copy protection are like a security blanket for the industry; they want to drag it around all of the time even though it isn't doing anything to keep the monsters away.

From The Hollywood Reporter:

Life of Pi, Kingsman and Maze Runner were all shot with the Arri Alexa, which is a 2k camera. So those will all be upconverts. Only Exodus was shot with a higher resolution camera (the RED Epic Dragon). None of these movies was shot with High Dynamic Range in mind, so they'll all have to be regraded.

Christ, how many acronyms do we need? Now "HDR" is a thing?

HDR photography has been around a while, I think.

I think that Exodus's DI was done at 2K.

HDR and an expanded color gamut



UltraHD is going to be mainly a repository for new and recent (last 10 years) movies.
In other words, about 50% of this product is going to be heavily digitally processed ( jacked around contrast, desaturation), and digitally color graded (emphasis on blues & green & oranges).
For every film like Guardians of the Galaxy that actually does make use of a full bodied range of hues, we're gonna get 5 Exoduses, Gone Girls, and Man Of Steels.

Whoo Hoo! Here's my money- Sign me up!

Only if by "a while" you mean one month. There are only two genuine HDR movies so far: Tomorrowland and Inside Out.

I think it's been around significantly longer in still photography.

It certainly has.

the aforementioned titles BETTER have their object based audio mixes on the 4K discs.

maybe this time - Fox can fix the PQ problems on 'The King and I' bluray and get it right this time around.

I'm not going to actively pursue it but if we get some comped gear from the manufacturers then we'll be all for it. Someone had asked me "what about UHD reviews?" and I was like: we'll, looks like we ain't gonna review them then. I'm not investing in new gear.

Yep, sad that 99% of 4k offerings will be the digitally-tweaked garbage of the last 10 years. Where the extra resolution would be highly apparant is in the older 35mm masters from the 1940s to 1970s and, of course the 65 and 70mm epics, etc. Chances of getting *any* of those in the format are somewhere between "not at all" and "slim to none."

So, epic failure on the whole 4k fad for me, in other words.

Has anyone seen the sales thread lately? Blu-ray is down 15% for the year, and is still outsold 2:1 by DVD. I can't see how there will be much of appetite for this next generation stuff.

There will be an initial wave of enthusiasm from technologically astute home theater owners.

I think what type of signals Hollywood sends to the mass market will play a critical role in UHD's acceptance. If consumers see Hollywood hedging their bets with the format and holding back on pushing the format into the marketplace, it's game over before UHD ever really started.

I wouldn't say that. I would be very surprised if we don't get at least a handful of major titles the studios really care about like Lawrence of Arabia, Casablanca, Citizen Kane, etc. Warner loves to reissue The Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind. Some of these already have 4K masters.

I wouldn't expect a lot of them, but there are certain films that (apparently) still sell well enough for them to do it.