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Why So Blu? 08-08-13 03:09 PM

Re: G.I. Joe: Retaliation (Jul 30, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 11792048)
That excuse doesn't hold up to scrutiny when you watch the scene. Lots of empty chunks of ice unencumbered by anything plummet to the bottom of the ocean like rocks.

I'll remind you that the movie also has submarines flying around under water like fighter jets, and an actual figher jet that can fly at Mach 20,000 from Moscow to Washington DC in five seconds and only responds to voice commands in Celtic.

Rise of Cobra is dead stupid. The movie isn't "turn off your brain" entertainment. It's "shoot yourself in the head to stop the pain" torture.



I don't disagree with any of this. The destruction of London (presumably killing millions of people) also felt out of place given the tone of the rest of the movie and was handled almost dismissively. Roadblock's pushing the self-destruct button on the satellites at literally the last second was also exceedingly lame. Why were the satellites rigged to explode in the first place?

Even so, the movie's still not as stupid or awful as Rise of Cobra. Rising to the level of mediocrity is a huge improvement over that garbage.

Wrong. It's much stupider and less fun than the first one. It really says something when you have to re-watch ROC in order to get the bad taste out of your mouth right after watching Retaliation.

Chu is on his way to becoming a hack. Granted, Sommers has been a hack for years, but Deep Rising is still the bomb, yo.

robin2099 08-08-13 05:01 PM

Re: G.I. Joe: Retaliation (Jul 30, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 11792048)
That excuse doesn't hold up to scrutiny when you watch the scene. Lots of empty chunks of ice unencumbered by anything plummet to the bottom of the ocean like rocks.

I'll remind you that the movie also has submarines flying around under water like fighter jets, and an actual figher jet that can fly at Mach 20,000 from Moscow to Washington DC in five seconds and only responds to voice commands in Celtic.

Rise of Cobra is dead stupid. The movie isn't "turn off your brain" entertainment. It's "shoot yourself in the head to stop the pain" torture.



I don't disagree with any of this. The destruction of London (presumably killing millions of people) also felt out of place given the tone of the rest of the movie and was handled almost dismissively. Roadblock's pushing the self-destruct button on the satellites at literally the last second was also exceedingly lame. Why were the satellites rigged to explode in the first place?

Even so, the movie's still not as stupid or awful as Rise of Cobra. Rising to the level of mediocrity is a huge improvement over that garbage.

Well I do know if there's one thing that I expect from my movies based on toylines, based on a comic book, based on a cartoon, based on a toyline it's complete realism.

Josh Z 08-09-13 12:37 PM

Re: G.I. Joe: Retaliation (Jul 30, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by robin2099 (Post 11792468)
Well I do know if there's one thing that I expect from my movies based on toylines, based on a comic book, based on a cartoon, based on a toyline it's complete realism.

Straw man argument. No one is asking for "complete realism." There's a wide gulf of possibilities between "astounding stupidity" and "complete realism." All we want is a movie that doesn't make us feel like we've been bludgeoned over the head with a tire iron and then pissed on afterwards.

Josh Z 08-09-13 12:39 PM

Re: G.I. Joe: Retaliation (Jul 30, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by wishbone (Post 11792082)
It seemed odd that the Zeus satellite had such an involved and time-consuming clamping process to ready the tungsten rod which apparently only needed to drop from space.

I took it that most of the delay was for the satellite to position itself in orbit to align with the target. The clamping was just to give us something to look at while it was doing that.

jdslater1 08-19-13 12:21 AM

Re: G.I. Joe: Retaliation (Jul 30, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by wahlers (Post 11792035)
You're joking, right?


Yes. Yes i'm joking.

mattysemo247 11-29-13 12:30 PM

Re: G.I. Joe: Retaliation (Jul 30, 2013)
 
So it looks like the extended edition isn't sold in stores anymore and is $35 at bestbuy.com. Amazon has the regular edition for $8. Is there really that much of a difference between the two versions or would the regular edition be just fine?

JimRochester 11-29-13 12:40 PM

Re: G.I. Joe: Retaliation (Jul 30, 2013)
 
I didn't notice much of a difference. At least not a $27 difference

asianxcore 11-29-13 02:08 PM

Re: G.I. Joe: Retaliation (Jul 30, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by mattysemo247 (Post 11928163)
So it looks like the extended edition isn't sold in stores anymore and is $35 at bestbuy.com. Amazon has the regular edition for $8. Is there really that much of a difference between the two versions or would the regular edition be just fine?

If you are curious about the changes (the Extended Cut is 12 minutes longer), there is a visual list here:

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=723200

Josh Z 12-02-13 01:25 PM

Re: G.I. Joe: Retaliation (Jul 30, 2013)
 

Originally Posted by mattysemo247 (Post 11928163)
So it looks like the extended edition isn't sold in stores anymore and is $35 at bestbuy.com. Amazon has the regular edition for $8. Is there really that much of a difference between the two versions or would the regular edition be just fine?

Honestly, I prefer the theatrical cut overall. Some of the changes in the extended cut make the movie worse, not better. See my post #134 in this thread.

mattysemo247 12-02-13 02:45 PM

Re: G.I. Joe: Retaliation (Jul 30, 2013)
 
Yeah, I went ahead and ordered the regular version for $7.99. It will be here tomorrow. Since then, they dropped the price on the 3D version to $14.99. Looks like Best Buy also has it for $14.99.


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