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I have a professionally cal'd 65" rear projection that still looks amazing and goes just great with my Oppo. Why would I spend $$$$ to "upgrade"?

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You still need analog video to get closed captions. Mine is hooked up both ways, with HDMI for regular viewing and component for when I want to see the captions. They really need to start including internal caption decoders in players since newer ones are eliminating analog video outputs entirely.

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I guess I would then ask, why spend money to upgrade your player?

Speaking from past experience, I also had a very nice pro-cal'd 57" CRT RPTV. Eliab did my cal and re-cals back in the day. It even had a DVI in. Still, I got tired of warming it up (usually needed about 45 minutes to get optimal), and I found myself obsessing over the convergence.

I went with a Samsung DLP Eliab suggested in 2007 and have loved it. No muss, no fuss. I was intimately aware of my pro-cal'd CRT looked like, and my DLP delivers the same quality to my eyes, but without the need for routine re-calibration like my CRT needed.

As I've mentioned previously, after spending literally 10's of thousands of dollars on content over the years, I don't see a big deal in spending a couple grand on a new display every 4-5 years.

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I admit I know little about CC and how it works. I know discs have subtitles (usually), so are we talking about not being able to get subtitles or captions from streaming services? I guess I'm confused as to what content is delivering CC over analog only.

Re: Oppo BDP-93 Owners Thread
 

If such people have not already bought a Blu-ray player by this late in the game, I doubt it much matters to them what features and specs any new player has or ever will have, because they are quite simply not interested in Blu-ray.

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I am not upgrading from the 93 to the 103 (no component outs), but I got the 93 for a variety of reasons to include DVD-A/SACD play and region free BD play. I don't use the streaming services much (or 3D capability) so an 83 may have been fine, as well.

I don't have any convergence or warm up concerns, but I do find the overscan a little annoying occassionally (~3.5%). I have had the cal touched up once after a move, but haven't seen the need to do it constantly. The price to do the cleaning/re-cal (Craig Rounds who did the original job) was certainly reasonable in my opinion.

It would cost a buttload more than "a couple grand" to get a flat panel of 65" or greater (no way would I go down in size) that is of even "reasonable" quality.

I'm not saying that I never get upgrade pangs or that everyone should check craigslist for RP TVs, but my room isn't suitable for FP and the OLEDs and 84" 4K TVs that are coming soon haven't quite dropped into my price range yet ;-) .

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Read Buck's post again in context with the post he was responding to. He means people with high-end projectors aren't in a hury to upgrade their projectors, therefor a Blu-ray player with component connections is desirable. Not that they don't want to upgrade from DVD to BD.

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Well some of the Sharp 70" Aquos panels are already mid-2k range. They'll be 2k shortly. I've seen those in person, and I would take them over how my RPTV looked with a pro-cal.

Ultimately I don't think Oppo is going to alienate many HT enthusiasts for dropping component. Sure it would be nice to have, but I wouldn't want to see it raise the price of the 103 even $50 for the fraction of folks who might still use analog.

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IIRC from the early days of Blu-ray, wasn't the analog "hole" supposed to be plugged by 2010? I know that didn't happen and probably never will, but if they had indeed limited the ability on some titles to be viewed in 1080p via analog connections, folks with older displays would have been screwed anyway.

I'm also curious to know how many common brand players (Panny, Sony, etc) still have component outs? I doubt Oppo is the only one dropping them this late into Blu-ray's life.

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Here's an interesting article from 2009. I don't know if it's still accurate, but note this part specifically:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/0...ood-drives-us-

So maybe Oppo is just getting out ahead of this.

And to be clear, I'm not saying I want analog to go away. But I'm not going to bang my head against the wall trying to stick with analog forever. I'm happy with HDMI.

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By dropping the analogue outs, they are effectively plugging the hole now. As long as you have a working legacy player that supports analogue out, you will still be able to view HD content at a maximum resolution of 1080i.

Other players do support analogue out at 1080i, but they are not Oppo. Going forward, all new players must limit analogue output to 480i, if they choose to retain that feature. By going Oppo's route, they simplify the circuit design and realize a per unit savings on parts and assembly.

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Cripple the player (eliminate Analog-out and put Cinavia in), simplify circuit design (costs less to produce the player = more profit for Oppo), and keep the price the same, right?

Sounds like a Win / Win for Oppo and the AACS / MPAA and yet another losing scenario for the end consumer.

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And my point being that those people either already have Blu-ray players with component outputs or they're not interested in Blu-ray at all.

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It's pretty much a double-edged sword. If you want the latest and greatest player, you're eventually going to be forced into upgrading your display if you use component. Otherwise you gotta stick with what you already have.

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For those who are interested, the BDP-103 is now officially available to the general public.
Got my order in. :) Now I just have to wait patiently for one of those region-free kits. :D

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Any thoughts on purchasing a refurbished and region-free modded BDP-93 from a reputable modded-player retailer? I'm not generally a fan of refurbished products, but the store represents that the unit was refurbished by OPPO, and I'm familiar with OPPO's good reputation for build quality (although that's tarnished a bit by the fact that this unit needed refurbishing in the first place.)

Thanks

Re: Oppo BDP-93 Owners Thread
 

There's little reason to pay to have a BDP-93 modified for you. The BDP-93 region code mod is the easiest thing in the world to install yourself:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/oppo-region-mod/

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Wow that's a cool mod. I had to open my 83 and install a different cable.

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Still waiting for my 103 to arrive. Looks like it'll be Monday or Tuesday next week. Ugh.

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Still sittin' on an NiB 93....just sayin'.

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Hopefully the 103 mod will be that simple.

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The mod for the BDP-93 will not work on the BDP-103. The 103 will need its own mod.

(Likewise, the mod for the BDP-83 doesn't work on either other model.)

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I've been noticing more and more foreign movies that were properly subtitled on Netflix, is a thing of the past. I just tried to watch 4 foreign movies via my BDP-93, and 3 of them failed to have proper subtitles, or in one case, you have English-speaking sections which ARE subtitled but then when they switch back to another language...it's not subtitled. What the hell. Netflix is just a waste on this machine. Come to think of it, Netflix is just a waste, period. I'm going to be canceling my account for good at the end of this month. Netflix might be doing things properly if I stream from my PC (but it's a pain in the butt to do) but their Oppo app is just pathetic.

Otherwise, the BDP-93 is still working well for me.

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A lot of folks in the 93 thread on AVS, (up to 23,000+ posts, btw), have been doing the same thing!

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I figured as much. What I meant was that I hope whatever mod is devised for the 103 is as simple as the one for the 93.

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Just bought a 103 to replace my LG BD690. Also purchased the Mod kit.

Very excited to own an Oppo after so many people literally cream themselves talking about it. Really hope it's as good as everyone says.

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It's a good machine, but the online hype over Oppo is a little overblown. Oppo owners are much like Apple fanatics, mostly because Oppo is the one hardware manufacturer that seems responsive to consumer concerns on the Internet. But their smallish size as a manufacturer does have consequences for their products.

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All of the creaming I do over my Oppo is figurative, thank you very much.

Have you ever owned an Oppo Blu-ray player?

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Yes. Solid players that offer a lot of functional value, but I have more demanding audiophile tastes than what Oppo can provide. The little quirks and occasional discs Oppo would have problems with were too inconvenient for me.

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I've had an Oppo 93 for a little over year and have been very happy with it. As I needed another player for the bedroom, I was considering a 103, but decided instead to get a 95 and move the 93 to the bedroom. There are still new 95 players available at the original price, and the combination of no Cinavia + iso support tipped the scale in favor of the 95. Plus I use both stereo and 5.1/7.1 analog outs and the 93/103 only has the 5.1/7.1 outs.

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More demanding than what the Oppo 95 or 105 can provide? What BD player would that be that costs less than 3x the price?

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The 105 is a very nice machine, but I would need to get it modded (the audio kind, not a region-free mod)for my tastes.

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Could you be more specific?

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It's kind of funny how we've gotten used to inexpensive blu-ray players. :)

My first DVD player (Pioneer combo laser/DVD) cost $1000. I don't remember exactly what my first blu-ray player (Sony BDP-S300) cost, but I'm pretty sure it was $500 or more.

My Oppo BDP-83 is far more capable, even though the Sony is still in service in my bedroom A/V set up. Sony pushes out a firmware update on occasion (last was April 2012), and it still plays anything I throw into it. May take a few minutes to load and get going, but it will eventually play.

The Sony BDP-S300 is often referred to as "the tank", and it does have beef and that rare (these days) build quality.

The Oppo even kind of holds its value, as there is quite a market for them on ebay. Especially with the region mod kit, which I bought on ebay for about 50 bucks.

David

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I had the original Sony "tank" - the BDP-S1. Thing felt like it was 15 lbs. I paid $899 for that in November 2006. I wanted to buy Blu-ray and HD DVD the same day, and since that was when PS3's were briefly hard to get, I went with it. So yeah, $500 for my BDP-83 that I've already enjoyed for years seems like no big deal to me.

If there had been an Oppo day 1 for $1K or more I probably would have bought it. I had three different Oppo DVD players before Blu-ray which were all great so for me they've established a great track record of reliability. Certainly much better than that of the Toshiba gear I have owned through the years.

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Oops, you are correct, the BDP-S1 is the original tank.

My 300 is the l'il tank. Yet it still plays almost everything I throw into it, albeit sluggishly. Except for the FlashForward DVD set, which pretty much chokes it. :sad:

David

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Yes, I have a concern. Playing The Beatles Green Apple FLAC from my Netgear NAS to my BDP-93, and the songs come out in title order, and not filename order. I preface the title with the 2-digit (zero padded) track number in order to do this. However, either my DLNA on the NAS is incorrect, or I do not know how to play in filename order.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Is there anybody out there?

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Oppo still has customer service available via email. You could always contact them if stuck up a creek.