Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

i've always found DTS tracks more powerful and just overall louder to my ears than any TrueHD with the exception of Brave 7.1 TrueHD.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

Dolby has a volume offset rqmt. You either need to boost Dolby by a few dB, or lower DTS by a few. With the volume normalized, you won't be able to perceive any difference.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

This should have 7.1

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

I'm planning on getting the Best Buy version with exclusive features. What's been the deal in the past with big releases like this? Do they usually sell out the first day in the store? Best to pre-order for store pickup?

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

you should at least camp out 1-2 days before hand for a release like this.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight steelbooks are $9.99 each this week at Best Buy. If you buy one, the ad says you get a $5 coupon for Dark Knight Rises. However, for each one you buy you get a $5 giftcard. Essentially $4.99 per steelbook. I picked them up as I'm planning to complete the steelbook set with Dark Knight Rises.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

Wait...Ultimate Trilogy set? Did I miss something? WTF is that about? Are you talking about the trilogy set we get when TDKR comes out?

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

It was discussed a few pages ago, there's the set coming out in a couple of weeks, then a "collector's edition" sometime in 2013 as confirmed by Warner Bros. No details yet on that one, other that there is one forthcoming.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

Ooooooh.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

Both Dolby and DTS lossless tracks use dialnorm (although lossy DTS has no dialnorm). Dolby by default set their encoders to -27 dBFS which reduces the overall output volume by 4 dB. DTS by default set their encoders to -31 dBFS which does not reduce the overall output volume at all. That's why DTS tracks are usually 4 dB louder than equivalent Dolby tracks.

There are exceptions of course. For instance, the DTS-HD MA track of the Walmart exclusive BD of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen has a dialnorm setting of -27 dBFS. And the Dolby True HD track of Mission: impossible - Ghost Protocol has a dialnorm setting of -31 dBFS.

Then there are rarities like the DTS-HD MA track of G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra and the Dolby True HD track of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull which both have a dialnorm value of -23 dBFS, for an overall volume reduction of 8 dB.

As BuckNaked2k stated, adjust the volume accordingly and there will be no perceivable difference.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

I'm crying right now:

This is funnier if you've already seen the flick. If not, then don't watch it:


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Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

Sarcasm? Tough to tell over the internet

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

no, i am dead serious. maybe 1 day should suffice. at least that way you are positively ensured.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

Wouldn't it just make sense to pre-order and reserve a copy then?

My store is open 24 hours, so that may change things too.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

Don't confuse volume for quality. They are not the same thing. As others have explained, DTS tracks are generally set for a louder default volume than Dolby tracks. If you volume match, they are equivalent in quality.

DTS-HD Master Audio = Lossless.
Dolby TrueHD = Lossless.

It is literally impossible for one lossless track to be "better" than another lossless copy of the same soundtrack. Both are bit-for-bit identical copies of the original studio master.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

With all that said, Dark Knight Rises had a pretty crappy soundtrack when I saw it in the theater. The music was way too loud and drowned out a lot of the dialogue.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

I'm not sure I even got half of Bane's lines.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

to each his own man, to each his own...

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

Me either and im sure I missed out on good dialogue, so I can't wait to watch this one again at home and not miss a thing.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

Exactly like Inception, exactly like The Dark Knight.

At home however, problem solved...though I still don't like how overbearing the Inception score is in the film's mix regardless of format.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

Which I find funny because I have several HK discs and they have both DTS-HD and Dolby True HD, and LPCM. Wasted space there.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

If you want a copy that will be instore. Just go on the website the morning(well before store open) of the release and order for instore pickup. I did that for Spiderman as they wouldn't allow the pre-orders to be picked up instore either.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

I've never had any problems with any of these films. You guys must be seeing these in crappy theaters where sound is overbearing. This happened to me when I went to see Skyfall. Even still I don't have a heard time hearing the dialogue.

And the soundtracks for The Dark Knight, Inception and The Dark Knight Rises are far from crappy. They are all excellent soundtracks.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

That won't work for this particular release. Camping out is only way unfortunately.

Re: The Dark Knight Rises - Blu-ray + DVD + UV Digital Copy (Dec 07, 2012)
 

How so? Unless some stores are doing the midnight thing.