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Jedi Master 33 05-20-12 09:24 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 11239124)
Worth a blind buy?

Not really. Hawkeye doesn't get enough screen time.

Spottedfeather 05-20-12 09:54 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 11238367)
I guess this will be another situation where you have to buy the 4-disc 3D set to get the extra bonus disc.

I prefer the DVD artwork since it has the Hulk front and center.

What do you mean ?

BuckNaked2k 05-20-12 10:48 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
Enough with the superhero movies, already.

Lt. Brannigan 05-20-12 10:54 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
Personally I love Superhero movies. And I will get this the instant it's available.

Solid Snake 05-21-12 06:14 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k (Post 11240575)
Enough with the superhero movies, already.

I'm amazed you're not griping about all the westerns we had back when they were huge.

RocShemp 05-21-12 06:49 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11240728)
I'm amazed you're not griping about all the westerns we had back when they were huge.

It's a shame Jonah Hex apparently turned out to be a steaming pile of shit. Had it been good, we'd have a market flooded by Superhero Westerns.

Xander 05-21-12 08:21 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
I can't see how they have enough stuff for a 10-disc edition, but I'm in day-one for the 4-disc. :thumbsup:

Guru Askew 05-21-12 11:18 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
It actually should be more than 10 if it has everything from the individual releases. Even if they dropped the DVD copies I think it would be 13 or 14 Blu-ray discs.

I'm extremely skeptical of a multi-film set though. It probably would have been officially announced alongside the individual film and all the studio stuff has to be tricky. It's one thing to secure one or two films from another studio to have a complete box (Kubrick, Rocky, Bond etc.) but it's another to expect Disney to license 4 Paramount titles and a Universal title.

Has anyone considered that the 10-disc set is coming from Paramount and doesn't actually include The Avengers? I can see them rounding up their 4 films and licensing Hulk from Universal. The disc count would make more sense that way too.

MTRodaba2468 05-21-12 11:36 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11240228)
Disc 1: Blu-ray 3D.
Disc 2: Blu-ray + bonus material.
Disc 3: DVD.
Disc 4: Digital Copy.

The Blu-ray disc is the same on both the four-disc and two-disc set, so you'll get all of the bonus material depending on what set you get.

Well keep in mind, this is Disney we're talking about. On a few releases (Cars 2 and Pirates 4 come to mind), the digital copy is either a download code or on the DVD copy. Leaving the disc count as:

Disc 1: Blu-Ray 3D
Disc 2: Blu-Ray 2D
Disc 3: Blu-Ray Bonus Material
Disc 4: DVD Copy + Digital Copy

It wouldn't surprise me if Disney went that route.

Boba Fett 05-21-12 01:56 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 11241023)
It actually should be more than 10 if it has everything from the individual releases. Even if they dropped the DVD copies I think it would be 13 or 14 Blu-ray discs.

I'm extremely skeptical of a multi-film set though. It probably would have been officially announced alongside the individual film and all the studio stuff has to be tricky. It's one thing to secure one or two films from another studio to have a complete box (Kubrick, Rocky, Bond etc.) but it's another to expect Disney to license 4 Paramount titles and a Universal title.

Has anyone considered that the 10-disc set is coming from Paramount and doesn't actually include The Avengers? I can see them rounding up their 4 films and licensing Hulk from Universal. The disc count would make more sense that way too.

Warner licensed movies from Fox, Columbia/Sony, and Universal for their Hepburn/Tracy boxset; I think the studios nowadays are a little more open to such things. I could also see this set NOT containing The Incredible Hulk.

Solid Snake 05-21-12 01:59 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
It'll contain TIH. It has to.it's part of the continuity.

RocShemp 05-21-12 02:20 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11241314)
It'll contain TIH. It has to.it's part of the continuity.

They'll replace TIH with Marvel One-Shot: The Consultant. ;)

Manco 05-21-12 06:00 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
Does Robert Downey Jr. have something in his contract that says he must appear in all advertising material without Iron Man's helmet?

Boba Fett 05-22-12 12:56 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Manco (Post 11241681)
Does Robert Down Jr. have something in his contract that says he must appear in all advertising material without Iron Man's helmet?

I think it's for name/face recognition.

RocShemp 05-22-12 06:37 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Manco (Post 11241681)
Does Robert Down Jr. have something in his contract that says he must appear in all advertising material without Iron Man's helmet?


Originally Posted by Boba Fett (Post 11242173)
I think it's for name/face recognition.

What Bobba Fett said. Besides, the coverart to the multi-disc set of Iron Man and both releases of Iron Man 2 feature him with the helmet on. The whole appearance of the actors sans headgear seems to be a Disney/Marvel imposition for this movie (and Thor :p).

critterdvd 05-22-12 11:31 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468 (Post 11241059)
Well keep in mind, this is Disney we're talking about. On a few releases (Cars 2 and Pirates 4 come to mind), the digital copy is either a download code or on the DVD copy. Leaving the disc count as:

Disc 1: Blu-Ray 3D
Disc 2: Blu-Ray 2D
Disc 3: Blu-Ray Bonus Material
Disc 4: DVD Copy + Digital Copy

It wouldn't surprise me if Disney went that route.

If that is the actual disc breakdown them I'm in for the 3D set. I don't own a 3D set up yet, but this is one of the few movies I'm willing to future-proof - mostly for that blu-ray bonus disc.

Iron_Giant 05-22-12 12:48 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
I think the 3D and the 2D covers should have been switched, the 2D covers looks more 3D with the Shield being thrown and Iron Man's hand stretched straight out toward the viewer.

Plus I like the 3D cover better, it has all the characters in it, while the 2D only has 4 of the heroes on it. The 3D is just cooler in my opinion.

nando820 05-22-12 01:03 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
^ i think the idea is to make the cooler cover the most expensive one, to me the 3D versions of Thor and Captain America were classier than their 2D counterparts

davidh777 05-22-12 01:10 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
The Widow is more suited to 3D

Iron_Giant 05-22-12 04:22 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by nando820 (Post 11242724)
^ i think the idea is to make the cooler cover the most expensive one, to me the 3D versions of Thor and Captain America were classier than their 2D counterparts

Good point, the studios will do anything to make the extra buck - really sad.

RocShemp 05-22-12 05:21 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
Not really they're in the business of making money. That said, the 3D cover actually sucks worse since it looks like a hastily slapped together mess (not that the other covers are much better). Heck, RDJ's head actually looks pasted on in the 3D cover.

Double_Oh_7 05-22-12 06:00 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11243157)
Not really they're in the business of making money. That said, the 3D cover actually sucks worse since it looks like a hastily slapped together mess (not that the other covers are much better). Heck, RDJ's head actually looks pasted on in the 3D cover.

It's the art they've been using in all their marketing materials.

RocShemp 05-24-12 06:55 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Double_Oh_7 (Post 11243204)
It's the art they've been using in all their marketing materials.

I know. It doesn't change the fact that it looks like absolute amateur crap. It's like a kid's first time using photoshop. I can't believe someone actually got paid for it. -ohbfrank-

MTRodaba2468 05-24-12 11:34 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by critterdvd (Post 11242570)

Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468 (Post 11241059)
Well keep in mind, this is Disney we're talking about. On a few releases (Cars 2 and Pirates 4 come to mind), the digital copy is either a download code or on the DVD copy. Leaving the disc count as:

Disc 1: Blu-Ray 3D
Disc 2: Blu-Ray 2D
Disc 3: Blu-Ray Bonus Material
Disc 4: DVD Copy + Digital Copy

It wouldn't surprise me if Disney went that route.

If that is the actual disc breakdown them I'm in for the 3D set. I don't own a 3D set up yet, but this is one of the few movies I'm willing to future-proof - mostly for that blu-ray bonus disc.

Now mind you, I don't know if that will ACTUALLY be the disc breakdown. That's just based on what Disney has done before with some of their 3D releases (again, Cars 2 and Pirates 4 come to mind).

Now if it does end up not having "exclusive" extras compared to the regular combo pack, I'll just op for that. I've got 2 Blu-Ray players (and both are 3D compatible), but I'm just not interested in watching movies at home in 3D (not to mention that my girlfriend isn't able to see the 3D effect anyways).

Matthew Chmiel 05-24-12 11:46 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468 (Post 11241059)
Well keep in mind, this is Disney we're talking about. On a few releases (Cars 2 and Pirates 4 come to mind), the digital copy is either a download code or on the DVD copy. Leaving the disc count as:

Disc 1: Blu-Ray 3D
Disc 2: Blu-Ray 2D
Disc 3: Blu-Ray Bonus Material
Disc 4: DVD Copy + Digital Copy

It wouldn't surprise me if Disney went that route.

I don't know which copy of Cars 2 you own, but mine is five discs:

Disc 1: Blu-ray 3D.
Disc 2: Blu-ray 2D.
Disc 3: Blu-ray Bonus Material (exclusive to the 3D release).
Disc 4: DVD.
Disc 5: Digital Copy (exclusive to the 3D release).

Beauty and the Beast is the exact same layout too. However, the 2D and 3D versions of that title have the same bonus material on a separate disc.

John Carter, The Lion King, Tangled, and Tron: Legacy are all four-disc 3D sets that have the bonus material all on the 2D disc. So regardless if one purchases the standard Blu-ray+DVD release or the 3D combo pack, you get the same bonus material. The exact same applies to the 3D releases of Fright Night and Step Up 3D. Those two are the only Disney BDs I own where the DVD and Digital Copy share the same disc leaving it to be a three-disc set instead of four.

nando820 05-24-12 12:33 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11243157)
Not really they're in the business of making money. That said, the 3D cover actually sucks worse since it looks like a hastily slapped together mess (not that the other covers are much better). Heck, RDJ's head actually looks pasted on in the 3D cover.

Well yeah at the end its a matter of opinion. They are both kinda cool but the 3D one has more details in it, buildings and crap on the back adding a little more depth to the scene. Its kinda like those old painted movie posters where there is a lot going on and it works as a representation of the feel of the movie rather than a screenshot of the cast.

GreenVulture 05-24-12 12:38 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11245611)
I don't know which copy of Cars 2 you own, but mine is five discs:

I think the bigger question here is why would you voluntarily admit you bought Cars 2?

Matthew Chmiel 05-24-12 03:18 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by GreenVulture (Post 11245690)
I think the bigger question here is why would you voluntarily admit you bought Cars 2?

Because I'm a completist and I hate my life. :sad:

RocShemp 05-26-12 12:09 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by nando820 (Post 11245680)
Its kinda like those old painted movie posters where there is a lot going on and it works as a representation of the feel of the movie rather than a screenshot of the cast.

I yearn for a return to Drew Struzan-styled painted movie posters. This slapped together piece of photoshop doesn't hold a candle to that poster art style.

Manco 05-28-12 02:24 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
Apparently this isn't real but fan made.

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9505/omedium.jpg

bluetoast 05-28-12 02:48 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11245919)
Because I'm a completist and I hate my life. :sad:

Yeah I'm considering a purchase, since I have every other Pixar disc, and I figure the extra features can redeem it. Right?

RocShemp 05-28-12 04:29 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 11249782)
Yeah I'm considering a purchase, since I have every other Pixar disc, and I figure the extra features can redeem it. Right?

Cars 2 isn't all that bad, as long as you simply view it as Mater's Tall Tales: The Movie rather than a proper sequel to Cars. It's really an entertaining flick. It just doesn't have the sentimentality of the first film and isn't particularly deep.

FuQ 05-28-12 08:01 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 11239914)
Yeah, it had Uma Thurman and Ralph Fiennes in it. It sucked balls, I don't know why everyone around here is so excited for it!

I had the bad fortune of seeing the first test screening of THAT Avengers. It was 3 hours long and was a complete mess. The theatrical is an hour and twenty minutes or so and everyone I know says that felt long. Imagine 3 hours of nonsense. I had the same experience with Ronin but it was almost exactly what we saw sans any voice over at the end explaining what happened, so everyone left confused.

Draven 05-28-12 08:22 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11247571)
I yearn for a return to Drew Struzan-styled painted movie posters. This slapped together piece of photoshop doesn't hold a candle to that poster art style.

Considering how many butts got in seats for The Avengers. I'd say the marketing department did it's job pretty well. A hand-drawn poster wouldn't have done any better, so why bother?

Iron_Giant 05-29-12 10:18 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 11250076)
Considering how many butts got in seats for The Avengers. I'd say the marketing department did it's job pretty well. A hand-drawn poster wouldn't have done any better, so why bother?

Sometimes marketing has nothing to do with it, either people know about the movie and will enjoy it or not.

Avengers has been setup for years and had a huge fan base looking forward to it, the Internet marketed the movie all by itself.

Sure, there were tons of commercials and ads, but word of mouth is more important that any other thing marketing can come up with.

Marketing can make for a huge opening, but then word of mouth and 2nd viewing takes over, that is what makes for mega hits in the box-office.

Draven 05-29-12 11:54 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 

Originally Posted by Iron_Giant (Post 11250609)
Sometimes marketing has nothing to do with it, either people know about the movie and will enjoy it or not.

Avengers has been setup for years and had a huge fan base looking forward to it, the Internet marketed the movie all by itself.

Sure, there were tons of commercials and ads, but word of mouth is more important that any other thing marketing can come up with.

Marketing can make for a huge opening, but then word of mouth and 2nd viewing takes over, that is what makes for mega hits in the box-office.

So that said...who gives a shit what the poster looks like? If it doesn't matter (and I agree that it doesn't) then why not just Photoshop something together and call it good?

Fok 05-30-12 04:28 PM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
looking forward to this one, the delete scenes sound quite interesting

MrSmearkase 06-01-12 09:10 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
Some details on the 10-disc set;


Though an official date is still unconfirmed, an interesting tease has shown up Amazon for something called the "Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase One - Avengers Assembled" Blu-ray collection. The tentative list of content for the ten-disc set reads as follows:

• Marvel’s The Avengers (Blu-ray 3D and Blu-ray)
• Captain America: The First Avenger (Blu-ray 3D and Blu-ray)
• Thor (Blu-ray 3D and Blu-ray)
• Iron Man 2 (Blu-ray)
• The Incredible Hulk (Blu-ray)
• Iron Man (Blu-ray)
• Bonus Disc - “The Phase One Archives” (Blu-ray)
• Collectible packaging with exclusive memorabilia from the Marvel Cinematic Universe

The listing also includes the below image, which hints that the set might mimic the briefcase that Samuel L. Jackson's Nick Fury uses to transport the Cosmic Cube. Whatever is under the S.H.I.E.L.D. cloth, though, is said to be revealed on July 15th.
Amazon link

http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimag...-assembled.jpg

LPMA 06-01-12 09:39 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
Since I only own a barebones Captain America on Blu-Ray, I might be tempted to pick this up, if the price-point is right.

Matthew Chmiel 06-01-12 10:05 AM

Re: The Avengers - Sept. 25, 2012
 
So, uh, what happened to the bonus discs that were apart of Iron Man and Iron Man 2? :confused:


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