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Old 04-23-12, 03:42 PM
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The Official Mill Creek Sony Firesale Appreciation Thread

It can't be as bad as those Buena Vista releases, right?

Originally Posted by Home Theater Magazine
Minneapolis’ Mill Creek Entertainment has licensed 250 titles from Sony Pictures Home Entertainment for DVD and Blu-ray Disc distribution in the United States and Canada.

The deal covers everything from the “Hostel” and “Hollow Man” franchises to classics such as Ship of Fools, Bonjour Tristesse, The Last Detail, Avalon, The Chase and Agnes of God. Many of the titles will see their first-ever Blu-ray release.

“It’s a defining moment for Mill Creek Entertainment. The sun is shining over here on the home video business,” said Jeff Hayne, VP of content acquisition for Mill Creek. “We’re going to do a lot of things where we package titles together by star, like Jean-Claude Van Damme and Steven Seagal, and in other cases we’ll do that by genre. That’s been our bread and butter with DVD for a long time, and now we get to do that with Blu-ray.”

Mill Creek plans a first wave of releases included in the deal this fall. Hollywood Homicide, All the Pretty Horses and Saving Silverman are among the other well-known titles Mill Creek will release.

“This treasure trove of SPHE films represents a watershed enhancement of our growing filmed entertainment catalog,” said Ian Warfield, president and COO of Mill Creek. “We are excited to work with the Sony Pictures Home Entertainment team to deliver this amazing line-up of star-filled titles for the enjoyment of an even broader audience of consumers.”
SAVING SILVERMAN FANS, YOUR TIME HAS COME!

WAVE 1 (October 9th, 2012)
  • Freedomland / The Messengers
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1 (Freedomland) / 1080p 1.78:1 (The Messengers); DTS-HD MA 5.1
    Bonus Material: None
    Note: The Messengers originally received a Blu-ray release from Sony in 2007 with an audio commentary and a 37-minute documentary.
  • Hostel (Director's Cut) / Hostel II (Director's Cut)
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1; DTS-HD MA 5.1
    Bonus Materials: None
    Note: Hostel & Hostel: Part II originally received Blu-ray releases from Sony in 2007 with numerous audio commentary tracks, documentaries, deleted scenes and more.
  • Stealth / Vertical Limit
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1 (Stealth) / 1080p 1.78:1 (Vertical Limit); DTS-HD MA 5.1
    Bonus Materials: None
    Note: Stealth & Vertical Limit originally received Blu-ray releases from Sony in 2006 & 2007. The former was bare bones, the latter retained the bonus material from the original DVD.

WAVE 2 (March 26th, 2013)
  • Attack Force / Into the Sun
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 1.78:1; English DTS-HD MA 5.1
    Bonus Materials: None
  • Happy Birthday to Me / When a Stranger Calls
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 1.78:1; English DTS-HD MA 2.0
    Bonus Materials: None
  • Hollow Man (Director's Cut) / Hollow Man 2
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 1.78:1 (Hollow Man) / 1080p 2.40:1 (Hollow Man 2); English DTS-HD MA 5.1
    Bonus Materials: None
    Note: Hollow Man originally received a Blu-ray release from Sony in 2007 with nearly an hour of bonus materials.
  • Hollywood Homicide / Hudson Hawk
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1 (Hollywood Homicide) / 1080p 1.78:1 (Hudson Hawk); English DTS-HD MA 5.1 (Hollywood Homicide) / English DTS-HD MA 2.0 (Hudson Hawk)
  • Lilith / Ship of Fools
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 1.78:1; English DTS-HD MA 2.0
    Bonus Materials: None
  • The Replacement Killers (Theatrical Cut) / Truth or Consequences, N.M.
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1 (The Replacement Killers) / 1080p 1.78:1 (Truth or Consequences, N.M.); English DTS-HD MA 5.1 (The Replacement Killers) / English DTS-HD MA 2.0 (Truth or Consequences, N.M.)
    Bonus Materials: None
    Note: The Replacement Killers originally received a Blu-ray release from Sony in 2007 with nearly an hour of bonus materials and an extended cut.
  • Running with Scissors / The Squid and the Whale
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1 (Running with Scissors) / 1080p 1.78:1 (The Squid and the Whale); English DTS-HD MA 5.1
    Bonus Materials: None
    Note: Running with Scissors originally received a Blu-ray release from Sony in 2007 with three featurettes.

WAVE 3 (May 7th, 2013)
  • Anatomy / Anatomy 2
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1; German Dolby Digital 5.1 (Anatomy); German DTS-HD MA 5.1 (Anatomy 2)
    Bonus Materials: None
    Note: While the English dub of Anatomy is available as a lossless DTS-HD MA 5.1 on the disc, the original German soundtrack is only given a lossy Dolby Digital track encoded at 384 kbps. In addition, Anatomy 2 has non-removeable English subtitles.
  • The Anderson Tapes / Physical Evidence
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 1.78:1; English DTS-HD MA 2.0
    Bonus Materials: None
  • The Brotherhood of Satan / Mr. Sardonicus
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1 (The Brotherhood of Satan) / 1080p 1.78:1 (Mr. Sardonicus); English DTS-HD MA 2.0
    Bonus Materials: None
  • In the Cut (Unrated Cut) / Trapped
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 1.78:1 / English DTS-HD MA 5.1
    Bonus Materials: None
  • The Nines / Slipstream
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 1.78:1 (The Nines) / 1080p 2.40:1 (Slipstream); English DTS-HD MA 5.1
    Bonus Materials: None
  • Second in Command / Universal Soldier: The Return
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 1.78:1; English DTS-HD MA 5.1
    Bonus Materials: None

WAVE 3.1 (October 1st, 2013)
WAVE 4 (July 22nd, 2014)
  • Anaconda
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1; English Dolby Digital 2.0
    Bonus Materials: TBA
    Note: Previously released to Blu-ray in 2009 with no bonus material, but a lossless Dolby TrueHD 5.1 audio option.
  • Donnie Brasco
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1; English Dolby Digital 5.1
    Bonus Materials: TBA
    Note: Previously released to Blu-ray in 2007 available only in an extended cut, two featurettes, and a lossless PCM audio option.
  • Flatliners
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40.1: English Dolby Digital 2.0
    Bonus Materials: TBA
    Note: Previously released to Blu-ray in 2007 with no bonus material, but a lossless PCM audio option.
  • Gridiron Gang
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1; Audio TBA
    Bonus Materials: TBA
    Note: Previously released to Blu-ray in 2007 with an audio commentary and 45 minutes of bonus material.
  • Last Action Hero
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1; English Dolby Digital 5.1
    Bonus Materials: TBA
    Note: Previously released to Blu-ray in 2010 with no bonus materials, but a lossless DTS-HD MA audio option.
  • The Legend of Billie Jean
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 1.78:1; Audio TBA
    Bonus Materials: Audio Commentary with Helen Slater and Yardley Smith.

WAVE 5 (August 19th, 2014)
  • 20 Million Miles To Earth / It Came From Beneath the Sea
    Technical Specifications: Video TBA; Audio TBA
    Bonus Materials: None
  • Basic / S.W.A.T.
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1; Audio TBA
    Bonus Materials: None
    Note: S.W.A.T. was released on Blu-ray in 2006 as a bare-bones edition.
  • Identity / Vacancy
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1; Audio TBA
    Bonus Materials: None
    Note: Identity and Vacancy were both released on Blu-ray in 2007 with various bonus material.

WAVE 6 (September 30th, 2014)
  • Blue Thunder
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1; Audio TBA
    Bonus Materials: TBA
    Note: Previously released to Blu-ray in 2009 as a special edition.
  • I Know What You Did Last Summer
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1; Audio TBA
    Bonus Materials: TBA
    Note: Previously released to Blu-ray in 2007 with an audio commentary and featurettes.
  • Krull
    Technical Specifications: Video TBA: Audio TBA
    Bonus Materials: TBA
  • Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (Theatrical Cut)
    Technical Specifications: 1080p 2.40:1; Audio TBA
    Bonus Materials: TBA
    Note: Previously released to Blu-ray in 2008 as a two-disc special edition.

POSSIBLE FUTURE RELEASES CONFIRMED BY MILL CREEK & SONY
Spoiler:
  • 20 Million Miles to Earth
  • Agnes of God
  • All the Pretty Horses
  • Already Dead
  • American Crude
  • Another You
  • April Fools Day (remake)
  • Avalon
  • Baby, The Rain Must Fall
  • Baadassssss!
  • Bachelor Party Vegas
  • Balls Out: Gary the Tennis Coach
  • Behold a Pale Horse
  • Bingo
  • Birdy
  • Black Water
  • Blame it on the Night
  • Blood Crime
  • Bobby Deerfield
  • The Body
  • Born Free
  • Bottoms Up
  • Breakout
    [8]The Breed
  • The Brothers Solomon
  • Buddy
  • Calendar Girl
  • Can't Hardly Wait
  • The Cave
  • Charm School
  • The Chase
  • Club S: Seeing Double
  • Cops and Robbersons
  • Conspiracy
  • The Contractor
  • Crazy In Alabama
  • Crush
  • Dancer, Texas - Pop. 81
  • Das Boot
  • D.E.B.S.
  • The Devil's Own
  • Doctor Faustus
  • Driving Lessons
  • The End of the Affair (remake)
  • Excess Baggage
  • The Fan
  • Face of Terror
  • Fast Forward
  • Feel the Noise
  • Finding Forrester
  • A Fine Mess
  • Fired Up
  • The Forsaken
  • Fortress 2: Re-Entry
  • Fresh Horces
  • The Freshman
  • Gardens of Stone
  • The Giant Claw
  • Go
  • Golden Boy
  • Hanky Panky
  • Hardbodies
  • The Hard Corps
  • The Harvest
  • Hero
  • Hexed
  • High School High
  • The Hunt for Eagle One
  • The Hunt for the BTK Killer
  • I Know What You Did Last Summer
  • I Still Know What You Did Last Summer
  • I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer
  • I'll Do Anything
  • I'm With Lucy
  • If Lucy Fell
  • Imaginary Heroes
  • Immediate Family
  • It Came from Beneath the Sea
  • Jersey Girl (not the Kevin Smith one)
  • John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars
  • John Carpenter's Vampires
  • Just Add Water
  • Knock Off
  • The Last Detail
  • Last Orders
  • Leonard Part 6
  • Lies and Alibis
  • Life Without Dick
  • Like Father, Like Son
  • Limbo
  • Little Black Book
  • Little Nikita
  • Little Secrets
  • Living Free
  • Lone Star State of Mind
  • Lord Jim
  • Lords of Dogtown
  • Lords of Flatbush
  • Look Who's Talking Now
  • Loose Cannons
  • Loser
  • Love Lies Bleeding
  • Lovelines
  • A Love Song For Bobby Long
  • Mary Reilly
  • The Mating Habits of the Earthbound Human
  • The Messenger
  • Micki and Maude
  • Modern Romance
  • Moscow on the Hudson
  • Mothra
  • Motorama
  • Mr. Jones
  • My Life
  • My Stepmother Is An Alien
  • National Lampoon's Pucked
  • The Net 2.0
  • Once Upon a Time in the Midlands
  • Off the Map
  • The Pact of Silence
  • The Point Men
  • Physical Evidence
  • Puff, Puff, Pass
  • Private Resort
  • The Quiet
  • Race the Sun
  • Red Water
  • The Return of the Vampire
  • The Revenge of Frankenstein
  • Ring Around the Rosie
  • The Russian Specialist
  • Saving Silverman
  • Shamus
  • She-Creature (remake)
  • Side Out
  • Simon Sez
  • The Slugger's Wife
  • Spring Break
  • Still Crazy
  • Stomp the Yard
  • The Suburbans
  • Sweet Heart Dance
  • Swept Away (remake)
  • Sylvester
  • The Tattooist
  • There's a Girl in My Soup
  • Threesome
  • To Gillian On Her 37th Birthday
  • True Believer
  • Vampires: The Turning
  • The Velocity of Gary
  • Vibes
  • Vice Versa
  • Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story
  • What Planet Are You From?
  • When a Stranger Calls (remake)
  • Wholly Moses
  • Who's Harry Crumb?
  • Wieners
  • Wilder Napalm
  • Wolf
  • XXX: State of the Union
  • You Got Served
  • You Light Up My Life
  • Young Adam

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Re: The Official Mill Creek Sony Firesale Appreciation Thread

Hal Ashby deserves so much more than Mill Creek. I am expecting a bare bones, interlaced, upconversion for The Last Detail. Albeit at a bargain basement price...between this and the TT thread I am turning into Goldilocks. Surely, there will be a "just right" boutique label on the horizon.
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Hal Ashby deserves so much more than Mill Creek. I am expecting a bare bones, interlaced, upconversion for The Last Detail. Albeit at a bargain basement price...between this and the TT thread I am turning into Goldilocks. Surely, there will be a "just right" boutique label on the horizon.
Sony has licensed titles to Twilight Time, Image, and Criterion, and for the most part those masters have been BD-ready and looked good. The Image titles have been low-priced but (from what I hear) still good quality. (I have one of them--Against All Odds--and the transfer is fine).

If Mill Creek is going to be their dumping ground for movies they have no intention of remastering, their reputation is going to take a hit. I'm not saying they're above that, but I for one will be disappointed if it turns out to be true.

It would particularly pain me to see a movie like The Last Detail end up on a subpar BD.
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We’re going to do a lot of things where we package titles together by star, like Jean-Claude Van Damme and Steven Seagal, and in other cases we’ll do that by genre.
Sounds like more upcoming Wal-mart dump bin material.
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Re: The Official Mill Creek Sony Firesale Appreciation Thread

Well, I guess I have mixed feelings about this announcement. On one hand, there are some really good movies that might not have ever been released in HD that will end up getting a Blu-ray release. On the other hand, it's Mill Creek ... I guess we'll just have to wait and see how these look.
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GREAT! Wish it was anyone else other than Mill Creek (with the possible exception of Anchor Bay, cf their BD edition of DEADLY SPAWN).

We can look forward to 250 shitty, low-bitrate encodes.

I'd just love for Mill Creek to prove me wrong, turn over a new leaf, and raise the bar by making their BD encodes shine, however!
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GREAT! Wish it was anyone else other than Mill Creek (with the possible exception of Anchor Bay, cf their BD edition of DEADLY SPAWN).

We can look forward to 250 shitty, low-bitrate encodes.

I'd just love for Mill Creek to prove me wrong, turn over a new leaf, and raise the bar by making their BD encodes shine, however!
In terms of their last Blu-ray release, That 70s Show: Season 1 has 25 episodes spread across four dual-layered discs with an average video bitrate above 30mbps alongside uncompressed DTS-HD MA 5.1 audio and all of the bonus materials from the original Fox DVD sets. It's gotten rave reviews and has gone as low as $13.49 in price.

Mill Creek is great at putting out quality product at a cheap price as long as they're given the right material to work with. The Buena Vista titles, not as much, as they look like they're first-generation HDTV masters (especially as all of them have come packed with 2.0 audio tracks). However, based upon the specifications of the next Buena Vista wave, we could be seeing a sudden jump in quality.

If anything, their track record is leaps and bounds better than Echo Bridge or Image Entertainment. If Sony is willing to work with them, we could get some stellar bargain-bin releases.
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Sounds like more upcoming Wal-mart dump bin material.
I don't know about van Damme but the only movies Seagal made with Sony were Direct-to-Video.

It just sounds like a bunch of garbage is coming. Is Sony going to farm out anything that's actually good?
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The big studios are no longer interested in releasing catalog. Hardly comes as a shock. At this point we should be glad just to get these on Blu-ray.
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I don't mind if they don't get any extras, but hopefully these will at least get decent HD transfers. The Last Detail and Bonjour Tristesse, at least, are great movies, and I'd jump at the chance to get them on Blu-ray.
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The transfers/masters are one thing, but the actual disc encodes are something else. They could (and should) be getting stellar material to work with from Sony, but it won't amount to much if they give them indifferent, low-bit rate encodes. Not saying this is what will happen. I don't own any of the previously released BV releases, and even if I did they might step up their game with the Sony stuff.
We'll all just have to wait and see.

I am positively optimistic considering the titles they are choosing to mention in the initial press release.
Bonjour Tristesse is a day one purchase for me, as will likely be The Chase. I'm very surprised to see BT going to Mill Creek rather than Twilight Time. I thought for sure something like that would be a shoo-in over there. Hopefully in 2013 I can start scratching a lot of these off my want list
Gilda
Gidget (finally in it's proper OAR)
From Here To Eternity
The Buddy Holly Story
The China Syndrome
Golden Voyage Of Sinbad
The Swimmer

with all the licensing deals in place now, 2013 should be a decent year for deeper catalog it looks like.
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its a distribution deal right, so maybe it will be like the Image deal where Sony seemed to have done encodes and the masters?
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Originally Posted by nitin77 View Post
its a distribution deal right, so maybe it will be like the Image deal where Sony seemed to have done encodes and the masters?
Possibly. But some of Sony's BDs haven't looked all that great. I have a feeling were going to get a bunch of ancient HDTV masters slapped on a disc. Why spend the money when the disc will MSRP at $9.99?
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Seeing as how Sony has completely bypassed releasing some newer films on BD at all (Hostel III, Good Old Fashioned Orgy) it's no surprise they'd do this. Seems like an easy way to focus solely on big titles while allowing a second-rate company to pump out the rest.
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Mill Creek has been doing decent stuff.

People complaining sound like they're talking about Echo Bridge.
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Strong A/V with any existing extras for cheap? Sounds good.
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Possibly. But some of Sony's BDs haven't looked all that great. I have a feeling were going to get a bunch of ancient HDTV masters slapped on a disc. Why spend the money when the disc will MSRP at $9.99?
The Image Entertainment discs have been solid in regards to picture quality as they all (look like) newly-created masters. However, they've been a mixed bag in terms of audio quality and delivering the bonus materials that existed on the original DVD releases.

For example, Cowboy Bebop: The Movie was a packed special edition DVD with a 5.1 English track (the original Japanese audio track was stereo). The Blu-ray drops all of the bonus material and even drops the 5.1 English track to PCM 2.0.

If Sony keeps providing the masters, Mill Creek's releases will look great as they don't mind using dual-layered discs for bargain titles (unlike say Echo Bridge). Hopefully they'll bring over the bonus material a lot of these DVDs and Blu-ray releases included as well.
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Well if Mill Creek is now using BD50s for its releases, that is wonderful news. The idea should be to encode the best possible PQ out of the provided masters. I'm willing to be optimistic and give Mill Creek the benefit of the doubt.
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD View Post
Possibly. But some of Sony's BDs haven't looked all that great. I have a feeling were going to get a bunch of ancient HDTV masters slapped on a disc. Why spend the money when the disc will MSRP at $9.99?
most have looked pretty solid to me. Image titles like Absence of Malice and And Justice For All look and sound pretty fine.
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most have looked pretty solid to me. Image titles like Absence of Malice and And Justice For All look and sound pretty fine.
Ghostbusters wasn't so hot.

But image may have licensed titles that Sony had planned on putting out on BD but didn't. These titles Mill creek just got may not have any work done on them. I doubt Sony was ready to release Saving Silverman.
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Didn't realize it at first, but Mill Creek has also released the 90's Gamera trilogy on Bluray, and Sony holds the US rights to distribute a lot of Godzilla films. There's still a handful of Godzilla titles that never got legit US DVD releases, and this might be a good way of getting them out the door.
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I figure this is the same deal Image has with Sony... Image uses Sony for CEA and replication, in turn Sony gave them a batch of titles to release.

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But you have to believe that many of these masters have been untouched since the DVD release, as GizmoDVD alluded to in his post. The Image BDs were clearly releases that Sony had once prepared for themselves to release but didn't, and hence looked good. These are all mostly C-list movies where the master has been rotting since the DVD release of years ago.
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The Image BDs were clearly releases that Sony had once prepared for themselves to release but didn't, and hence looked good. These are all mostly C-list movies where the master has been rotting since the DVD release of years ago.
Yes, because Jawbreaker is such a pinnacle of Sony's filmed entertainment library.
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