I don't mean to go off topic, but what program do you use to encode your rips for viewing? I've been thinking of doing this for some of my movies, but I don't want to lose quality.

It's not as much fun to roll around naked with a few hard drives as it is with piles of discs.

Sorry, but if I buy a disc I can do whatever the hell I want with it other than exhibiting it for a profit. If I want to rip a disc and then sell it, that's my choice. I paid for that disc; I'm not borrowing it from the distributor.

I'd rather trust my collection on a cloud drive instead of a physical hard drive. Mostly because I've never had an external drive that didn't crash at one point.

Except that it's illegal to then retain the ripped copy if you no longer own the original.

... or retaining a copy you made of it, after you sell it.

It's your "choice" in the way that it's also your "choice" if you want to shoot someone in the face. You can do it, but that doesn't make it legal, ethical or right.

And when you then sell it, someone else pays for it- you don't own it any more.

That's why God created RAID configurations.

I give you this, some people were dumb enough to use Yahoo(or was it Wal-Mart) Music's online service. When that went away, the original plan was that it sucked if you used it because you just lost everything. I think they ended up saying they'd transfer it to some other company.

It's all fine and dandy until the company decides bandwidth(have fun with your internet caps fellow consumers) and storage space isn't worth the money they're getting and let everyone know they're getting a $5 coupon for their DVD of choice at their overpriced online store while at the same time you lose everything you had.

It's not like WB would allow another studio to take all their movies to their own cloud service.

It'll be even more fun when everyone has their own little individual streaming service. Step 1 is making the cost too high to make it worthwhile for Netflix to keep a contract and then build their own little failure so we have a million services, each with their own little quirks and restrictions and subscription costs.

But even if you own a disc, it's illegal to break any encryption to back it up. Doesn't matter if you own the original or not.

Yeah you are making a profit by making a duplicate of the product and selling it (regardless of whether you sell the original or the copy, the result is the same). You get to keep the movie and sell a copy of it. That's an obvious copywrite violation. Not a major criminal offense, but illegal and unethical regardless.

Well, that's a law that violates another law. Which takes precedence is yet to be tested.

Welcome to muddy waters.

I think I will always stick with my personal collection I can access without the internet that hardly takes up any room based on how I store the discs.

I agree, and no info in the original post either without going through the link. I almost skipped this thread altogether except that I could get the gist of it by reading the discussion.

Sorry, I was referring to CDs not BDs or DVDs. For some reason that was on my mind when reading the initial post I was responding to.

If I transfer my DVD's to a Hard Drive will the menus and extras all transfer? I'm looking for a way to pack up all my DVD's and put them in storage, they take up way too much room in my tiny house, I can't even display them all.

I believe there is, depends on the method used. Now for storing films I just had to go with those Meritline hanging file cases and binders for the cover art, they do take up too much room when you have limited space.

Paying for the disc does not confer to you the right to do whatever you want with the intellectual property on that disc.

I recently moved the majority of my Blu-ray collection into DiscSox sleeves. Tremendous space savings, and they let you keep both the original disc and cover art.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/cl...eater-clutter/

U can burn the disc after u rip it then u won't be breaking the copyright intellectual property laws. Or maybe you can give it away to other people or Goodwill/Salvation Army and live with the guilt that u have done something very very bad.

Excellent article Josh.

Great concept, but highly expensive. I'd have to purchase $400 worth of DiscSox sleeves just to cover my Blu-ray collection and another $500 worth to cover my DVD collection. I'm already at close to a thousand dollars and I haven't even thought about where to store them yet.

When the studios saw the financial opportunities of selling movies on tape and disc to the general public, they took the risk of what may happen to the content on those tapes and discs.

Modern technology has given everyone very powerful (and virtually free) tools at their disposal to copy and distribute digital content.

The only way the studios could have avoided large scale piracy would have been to only issue films in movie theatres where they had very close control over their 35mm prints by only issuing them to reputable exhibitors.

They made to choice to make films readily available, made HUGE profits and piracy is the trade-off they will have to adapt to, right or wrong.

When I walk down the street, I take the risk that someone may shoot me in the face. That I've decided to take the risk doesn't make it ok if they do.

This is always what has confused me about the copyright laws.

For instance, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the cable movie channels show full-length feature films, uncut, identical to what is on the DVD.

As far as I know, recording a movie from a movie channel on TV using your VCR or PVR for your own home use is legal. You now essentially "own" a copy of a film that you can watch whenever you want.

Since you didn't specifically pay for it, the studio will lose money because you won't go to a store and purchase it.

How does this differ from other forms of what is considered illegal piracy?

Sure, you paid for the movie channel service but when you rent a movie from the video store or library, aren't you also paying for it in a similar fashion?

Even if encryption is broken it is an arbitrary difference. You still own the same movie that wasn't directly paid for.

No, but if you walk across a rifle range with a bullseye printed on your shirt...

Even in the early days of the VCRs, studio execs knew the machines were built with RCA video/audio input/output jacks complete with a REC button.

Yes! goddammit I agree is illegal to copy DVDs i just don't give a fuck!