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RocShemp 04-21-12 05:17 PM

Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11198370)
Well, Nolan's reasoning isn't official.

The DVD of The Dark Knight maintains the 2.35:1 aspect ratio throughout the entire picture whereas the Blu-ray and digital copy do not. However, on the flip side, the DVD contains the IMAX footage in its OAR as a bonus feature whereas the Blu-ray does not.

I don't grasp why filmmakers and studios can't just use seamless branching for the IMAX footage. You can either choose to watch the film in its OAR/original theatrical presentation for the entire running time or view the IMAX "version" instead.

In the special features Nolan implies that the 1.78:1 crop was what they composed for and the additional space of the 1.44:1 frame was left open for the IMAX effect. So it might not even be accurate to view the BD version as an IMAX presentation. It's just the movie as it was composed.

Looking at the IMAX footage in M:i-GP, there's enough headroom and otherwise empty space in the 2.40:1 matte to suggest that it was indeed composed with 2.40:1 in mind and that the rest of the 1.44:1 was never meant to be seen but rather perceived.

So in both cases, even if we were to use a projector and sit close, we wouldn't really get an IMAX effect.

That said, an option should have still been made available. Not necessarily via seemless branching (there some nasty compression artefacts in one scene which would probably be made worse cramming more data into the disc) but via two separate releases.

rmorgan 04-21-12 11:13 PM

Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
 

Originally Posted by trespoochies (Post 11195675)
Yes, the code which you redeem at the Paramount site can be used on iTunes.

I did this today and was surprised that it also downloaded the "iTunes Extras" for the movie. It basically treats the code as if you are purchasing the movie with a gift card code.

Mr. Cinema 04-28-12 07:40 PM

Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
 
The digital version of this title is in HD. Your Vudu and UV accounts can now be linked. I had rented Shame via Vudu and noticed all of my UV titles are now available on Vudu. M:I 4 was in HDX format. The other UV titles I have are from WB and all were SD. This is the first UV title I know of that is in HD.

whotony 04-28-12 10:10 PM

Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11173177)
Prior to just a few years ago, ALL IMAX locations had screens installed for the 1.44:1 aspect ratio. Domes, stand-alone IMAX theaters, and auditoriums in existing multiplexes all carried installed screens with the same, exact aspect ratio.

When IMAX came out with the MPX projection system (specifically as IMAX was going to an all-digital system), it was the first IMAX projector specifically with a 1.89:1 aspect ratio. However, retrofitted auditoriums utilizing these projectors didn't pop up closer until a year-or-two before IMAX actually launched their digital projectors. A lot of AMC and Regal locations used these MPX projectors before the digital projectors were installed. The three Regal theaters here in town that retrofitted existing auditoriums used the MPX projectors (for only a few months) until the digital projectors were installed in early-to-mid 2009.

However, the IMAX theater I go to the most still has that original installed 1.44:1 screen. They went from using an SR projector to a digital one last year. The screen sizes are pretty apparent too:

41 x 56 feet (Brenden Palms; 1.44:1)
35 x 57 feet (Regal Red Rock; 1.78:1)
33 x 51 feet (Regal Aliante Stadium; 1.78:1)
24 x 48 feet (Regal Sunset Station; 2.1:1)

There's only one screen here in town with an installed screen of a 2.1:1 aspect ratio. But why even bother when it's almost half the size of the others in town (retrofitted or not)?

In case of the United States and Canada, these are most of the 70mm locations still left:

Spoiler:
Austin, TX || IMAX Theater Austin
Boston, MA || Jordan’s IMAX
Boston, MA || IMAX 3D Theatre in Reading
Calgary, AB || Scotiabank Theatre Chinook 16 + IMAX
Chantilly, VA || Washington, DC Udvar-Hazy Center IMAX
Chicago, IL || Navy Pier IMAX Theatre
Des Moines, IA || SCI IMAX Dome Theater Des
Detroit, MI || Henry Ford IMAX
Edmonton, AB || Scotiabank Theatre Edmonton + IMAX
Harrisburg, PA || The Whitaker Center for Science & the Arts IMAX
Houston, TX || Houston Marq*e Stadium 22 + IMAX
Indianapolis, IN || White River IMAX
Los Angeles, CA || Irvine Spectrum 20 + IMAX
Los Angeles, CA || RAVE 18 + IMAX
Los Angeles, CA || Ontario Palace Stadium 22 + IMAX
Los Angeles, CA || Citywalk Stadium 19 with IMAX
Madison, WI || Star 18 Fitchburg with IMAX
Miami, FL || AutoNation IMAX
Minneapolis, MN || Great Clips IMAX
Montreal, QC || Cinema Banque Scotia Montreal + IMAX
Nashville,TN || Opry Mills Stadium 20 + IMAX
New York, NY || Lincoln Square 13 with IMAX
New York, NY || Palisades IMAX
Omaha, NE || Star Cinema 16 with IMAX
Orlando, FL || Pointe Orlando Stadium 20 + IMAX
Ottawa, ON || Silvercity Gloucester + IMAX
Palm Springs, CA || Desert IMAX Theatre
Philadelphia, PA || IMAX & the Tropicana
Philadelphia, PA || Tuttleman IMAX – Franklin Institute
Phoenix, AZ || Arizona Mills 25 with IMAX
Providence, RI || Providence Place 16 with IMAX
Quebec City, QC || IMAX Le Theatre At Quebec
Sacramento, CA || Esquire IMAX
San Antonio, TX || IMAX at RiverCenter
San Francisco, CA || Metreon 16 with IMAX & ETX
Seattle, WA || Boeing IMAX – Pacific Science Center
Tampa, FL || Museum of Science and Industry (MOSI)
Toronto, ON || Coliseum 12 Mississauga + IMAX
Toronto, ON || Scotiabank Theatre Toronto + IMAX
Toronto, ON || Colossus 18 Woodbridge + IMAX
Vancouver, BC || Colossus Langley + IMAX
Vancouver, BC || Silvercity Riverport 18 + IMAX


The reason they're the few remaining? They all have screens close to, if not larger, 70 feet tall (and all have a wonderful 1.44:1 aspect ratio). Digital projectors suck on the large screens and that's why IMAX is waiting to have laser projectors before converting those locations over.

I has no idea there was a 70mm IMAX in and near Philly so thanks for that list.
The IMAX at Tuttleman is a dome so I never realized that was a 70 mm either but the Tropicana in the list is actually in Atlanyptic City.

Josh Z 05-01-12 02:56 PM

Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
 
The last I checked, the Jordan's IMAX in Natick, MA was still a 15/70 theater.

bluetoast 05-01-12 04:18 PM

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Damn I don't know why I didn't pick this up previously, but I hope to do so now. The BB exclusive one of course.

Mr. Cinema 05-01-12 04:38 PM

Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
 

Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 11214432)
Damn I don't know why I didn't pick this up previously, but I hope to do so now. The BB exclusive one of course.

They're selling the exclusive for $19.99 all week long.

whotony 05-01-12 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 11214466)
They're selling the exclusive for $19.99 all week long.

$15 if you trade in a disc for a $5 coupon.

bluetoast 05-01-12 10:10 PM

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And I did just that. Traded in Daredevil Director's Cut, which wasn't even fit to be my coaster, so that was a good deal.

LovesJapanManga 05-30-12 04:45 PM

Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
 
Got only one question for you guys: I plan to buy Mission Impossible 4: Ghost Protocol for iTunes sometimes during June. My point is: What kind of iTunes Extras does it offer? ALL SAME EXCEPT FOR ONE EXTRA: Digital Premiere: Underwater footage which belongs to iTunes Extras, correct? Please let me know. Thank you very much.

whotony 05-30-12 04:55 PM

Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
 

Originally Posted by LovesJapanManga (Post 11252424)
Got only one question for you guys: I plan to buy Mission Impossible 4: Ghost Protocol for iTunes sometimes during June. My point is: What kind of iTunes Extras does it offer? ALL SAME EXCEPT FOR ONE EXTRA: Digital Premiere: Underwater footage which belongs to iTunes Extras, correct? Please let me know. Thank you very much.

The extras aren't listed on the listing at iTunes?

LovesJapanManga 05-30-12 06:37 PM

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Yeah. It is. But I am curious to see which segments in iTunes Extras have that Blu-Ray version does not have and vice versa.

nitin77 05-31-12 05:00 AM

Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
 
I just watched my Australian Triple play copy the other day, discovered horribly noticeable macroblocking in particular sequences (especially red wall panelling in Kremlin break in sequence) and jumped online to see if anyone else expereinced the same.

Some posters over at blu-ray.com have made similar observations but it doesnt seem to be a universal observation. Anyone here notice anything?

Its a bizaare thing, havent seen macroblocking this bad on any other blu ray.

Travis McClain 05-31-12 06:41 AM

Re: Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 4/17/12
 

Originally Posted by LovesJapanManga (Post 11252545)
Yeah. It is. But I am curious to see which segments in iTunes Extras have that Blu-Ray version does not have and vice versa.

Links take you to where you can verify the following information. Bold indicates format exclusive.

iTunes Extras

Extras
Digital Premiere - Underwater
Impossible Missions - The Sandstorm, Props
Deleted Scenes - Confusion in the Van, Benji Almost Caught in the Kremlin

Links (I don't think the links are also on the Blu-ray, but maybe they are; these are not at all important.)
Mission: Impossible Official Site
Mission: Impossible Facebook Page
Paramount Trailers

Paramount 100 App

Trailers - Mission: Impossible, Mission: Impossible II, Mission: Impossible III, Star Trek, Super 8, Tropic Thunder

Blu-ray Disc - Underlined content is not available in iTunes Extras, but is available on the Best Buy edition Blu-ray.

"Mission Accepted" - Heating Up in Dubai, Vancouver Fisticuffs
"Impossible Missions" - The Sandstorm, Props
Deleted Scenes - Alternate Opening: Hendricks Practices His Speech, Confusion in the Van, Benji Almost Caught in the Kremlin

Blu-ray Disc - Best Buy Exclusive
"Mission Accepted" - Suiting Up in Prague, Heating Up in Dubai, Vancouver Fisticuffs
"Impossible Missions" - The Russian Prison, Shooting in IMAX, Art Department, A Roll of Film, Life Masks, Stepping Into the Storm, The Sandstorm, Dubai Car Crash, Lens on the Burj, Props, Composer
Deleted Scenes - Alternate Opening: Hendricks Practices His Speech, Mission on the Train, Confusion in the Van, Benji Almost Caught in the Kremlin, Hendricks and Leonid in the Hangar, Arrival at the Burj – Original Version, Ethan and Jane in the Jet, Wistrom and Chips
Trailers - Theatrical Trailer 1, Theatrical Trailer 2

Amazon Special Features
Prison Break
Soaring in Dubai
The Final Fight

All you really need to do is get the Best Buy exclusive Blu-ray, since that also includes all the iTunes Extras. The three Amazon special features are available free.

Mr. Cinema 06-06-12 08:04 PM

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The regular combo pack will be $12.99 in Best Buy's new ad beginning Sunday.

Lecithin 08-28-12 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 11117737)
Not officially announced yet, but this date is what's being thrown around. Amazon has their pre-order up. BD/DVD/DC combo pack. Their current pricing is $21.99.

http://www.thehdroom.com/images/bluray/large/6091.jpg

Day 1 purchase for me and I really dig the artwork.

Amazon has it for $9.99 now: http://www.amazon.com/Mission-Imposs.../dp/B004EPYZV2

E Unit 08-28-12 12:07 PM

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Ha, kind of late to the show.


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