Warner goes 'Flippers' for new releases
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Fuck this. Add me to the list of importing my Warner Bros. discs from the UK from now on if this is going to be the case..
#27
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No, you can't. The failure rate of these types of discs has always been higher. DVD-5 and DVD-9 have proven reliable over the years. BD-25 and BD-50 have so far also been reliable over a 5-6 year span.
HD DVD combos and DVD-18 have well documented failures that occurred both immediately and later on, and they were only produced for a few years.
But feel free to buy these discs - the studios love using consumers for beta testing. I won't be one of them.
HD DVD combos and DVD-18 have well documented failures that occurred both immediately and later on, and they were only produced for a few years.
But feel free to buy these discs - the studios love using consumers for beta testing. I won't be one of them.
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No, you can't. The failure rate of these types of discs has always been higher. DVD-5 and DVD-9 have proven reliable over the years. BD-25 and BD-50 have so far also been reliable over a 5-6 year span.
HD DVD combos and DVD-18 have well documented failures that occurred both immediately and later on, and they were only produced for a few years.
But feel free to buy these discs - the studios love using consumers for beta testing. I won't be one of them.
HD DVD combos and DVD-18 have well documented failures that occurred both immediately and later on, and they were only produced for a few years.
But feel free to buy these discs - the studios love using consumers for beta testing. I won't be one of them.
I've yet to encounter a Combo title that I've had an issue with that a reboot wouldn't fix and I own, and still watch, around 200 HD DVDs (on multiple players).
I still hate these Combo/Flipper titles. The days of needing them are long gone.
#30
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Aside from a bad batch of Children of Men (IIRC), there has not been a whole lot of HD DVD Combo issues. Like everything, there are some issues, but it tends to get overblown because of the former war.
I've yet to encounter a Combo title that I've had an issue with that a reboot wouldn't fix and I own, and still watch, around 200 HD DVDs (on multiple players).
I still hate these Combo/Flipper titles. The days of needing them are long gone.
I've yet to encounter a Combo title that I've had an issue with that a reboot wouldn't fix and I own, and still watch, around 200 HD DVDs (on multiple players).
I still hate these Combo/Flipper titles. The days of needing them are long gone.
And the scariest part is even though Uni's few problematic Combos (CoM, Good Shepherd, Smokin' Aces, etc) garnered a decent amount of attention, I recall WB had just as many if not more problems with their combos and on higher profile titles. Matrix box set comes immediately to mind. I had (and still have) three HD DVD players, and I personally experienced issues with all the aforementioned discs. Either I have extremely bad luck or those discs were pieces of shit. I'm going with the latter.
#31
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J Edgar still shows two discs... maybe flippers will only be for "special" titles. You'd think the kind of people watching Harold and Kumor would be more likely to break or find it harder to use flippers... or maybe it's just because less discs will be easier for them to keep track of.
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#37
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Re: Warner goes 'Flippers' for new releases
Aside from a bad batch of Children of Men (IIRC), there has not been a whole lot of HD DVD Combo issues. Like everything, there are some issues, but it tends to get overblown because of the former war.
I've yet to encounter a Combo title that I've had an issue with that a reboot wouldn't fix and I own, and still watch, around 200 HD DVDs (on multiple players).
I still hate these Combo/Flipper titles. The days of needing them are long gone.
I've yet to encounter a Combo title that I've had an issue with that a reboot wouldn't fix and I own, and still watch, around 200 HD DVDs (on multiple players).
I still hate these Combo/Flipper titles. The days of needing them are long gone.
#39
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I have almost every HD-DVD released in the US and have had far more problems with single-sided discs than the combos. The main problem was Cinram, who manufactured most of Warner's discs. I have both the combo and single-sided versions of "Happy Feet", the 1-sided disc freezes up during play but both sides of the combo disc play fine.
I haven't heard of any problems with the combo Blu-Rays that have been out so far, I have 2 of them but haven't gotten around to watching them. Again I hate multi-disc sets but have no need for a standard-def copy anyways.
I haven't heard of any problems with the combo Blu-Rays that have been out so far, I have 2 of them but haven't gotten around to watching them. Again I hate multi-disc sets but have no need for a standard-def copy anyways.
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I have no combo Blu-rays, but the few combo HD DVDs I had/have caused me enough issues that I won't buy anything that comes like this.
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There has never been a need for a digital copy disc. Universal handles digital copies amazingly based upon their recent releases. Go directly to the Universal website, type in your activation code and pick which format (i.e. iTunes, Vudu, Zune, etc) in which you want the digital copy in. Bing. Bang. Boom. You're done. While the digital copy is still standard definition only, at least Universal now gives customers the iTunes Extras version of the digital copy.
#42
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Awful news, driven solely by Warner's need to control the rental market and prevent stores like Family Video from buying the DVD/BD combo pack and splitting it up.
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Most brick and mortar video stores in Las Vegas have already gone under. Not a single mom and pop store remains. There's a handful of Blockbuster locations remaining and their time is running out. On every corner now exists either a Redbox or Blockbuster Express. Family Video shouldn't even be a concern much longer as renting will be a fully automated service (Redbox), mail-in service (Netflix) or on-demand service (Netflix, iTunes, CinemaNow, Vudu, Zune, etc) within the next few years. I would be geniuenly shocked if retail rental locations still exist by 2015.
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Agreed. Lossy audio on a Blu-ray disc in 2012 is a big step backward. I own very few movies on BD with lossy tracks, and have consciously not upgraded a number of DVDs (mostly Warner titles) released to BD early in the format's history partly due to the lack of lossless audio.
Even nature documentaries--a favorite of mine which routinely have lossy audio tracks on BD (yes, I do buy them anyway)--are moving away from this. Recent titles from BBC and National Geographic have contained lossless audio tracks.
I don't own any two-sided BDs but have not yet had a problem with a two-sided DVD (which doesn't necessarily mean I'm in any hurry to buy a BD combo disc)
Even nature documentaries--a favorite of mine which routinely have lossy audio tracks on BD (yes, I do buy them anyway)--are moving away from this. Recent titles from BBC and National Geographic have contained lossless audio tracks.
I don't own any two-sided BDs but have not yet had a problem with a two-sided DVD (which doesn't necessarily mean I'm in any hurry to buy a BD combo disc)
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I have never had a single issue downloading from iTunes when the digital copy is online only. I had both The Big Lebowski and Scarface downloading the other week from iTunes and it barely took 10 minutes. Then again, I do have 25mbps download speeds. The problem I see with Warner's argument is how is Warmer concerned about customers without broadband connections not being able to get digital copies when Ultraviolet is practically streaming only?
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Are the UK releases region free? And don't the UK menus play havock with the PS3 (my default BD player)?