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E Unit 10-10-11 11:43 AM
The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
I figure since this is a brand new way digital copies and downloads will be handled by the studios, it may be best to have a seperate thread for it. As of now, here's how the process works. From http://www.uvvu.com/

http://www.uvvu.com/images/text/what-is-uv-overview.png

Disc, stream or download
Purchasing UltraViolet content gives you flexibility to watch the way you want:

•Stream to any internet-connected device, including cable/satellite set-top boxes
•Download for offline viewing, including full HD copies
•Get a disc included even when you buy online - either download or streaming


How do you want to watch?
At home or on the go, UltraViolet lets you watch where you want:

•TVs
•Computers
•Tablets
•Game consoles
•Set top boxes
•Blu-ray players
•Internet TVs
•Smartphones

Choose your brand
You can watch the titles in your UltraViolet Digital Library on devices from multiple brands:

•Stream to ANY internet-connected device, including cable/satellite set-top boxes
•Download copies to any UltraViolet-logo app or device that can store and play video files


Choose your experience
Build and personalize your Ultraviolet Library for each family or household Member:

•Filtered library views and personalized recommendations
•Parental Controls to help provide a safe viewing experience for kids

No Special Equipment
You don't need any special equipment or additional technology to enjoy your UltraViolet Library - watch on the devices you already own today!

Strong Industry Support
UltraViolet is backed by many of the world's leading entertainment and technology companies, who share the vision of UltraViolet as a key part of the future entertainment landscape.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...ochies/UVA.jpg

Timber 10-10-11 11:58 AM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu...a-jovovich.jpg

:scratch2:

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 10-10-11 11:58 AM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
With an amazing 5 titles coming out in the next 2 months. While it's backed by a bunch of tech companies, the trick is to get the studios to move away from what they're doing now.

Solid Snake 10-10-11 01:08 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
I've never heard of this. What movies have this?

PopcornTreeCt 10-10-11 01:27 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
I've seen this with ads for Horrible Bosses. Meh.

Peep 10-10-11 01:28 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
I've heard that Sony and Warner are aboard for launch and Disney is supposedly on board for post-launch (although I'm not sure if I believe that).

Also, UV may draw the distinction between HD and SD, meaning if you purchase a SD copy, a FREE eventual upgrade to HD may not happen.

Kory 10-10-11 02:01 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
The one thing I was confused about with this when it was initially announced is that it seemed as if you needed an internet-capable BD player to even play the disc. Is that no longer the case?

kefrank 10-10-11 02:38 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by Kory (Post 10959588)
The one thing I was confused about with this when it was initially announced is that it seemed as if you needed an internet-capable BD player to even play the disc. Is that no longer the case?
That was never the case, actually. One of the early "articles" on the internet about UV had a lot of incorrect information in it.

Kory 10-10-11 02:53 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Okay, that's good. My main BD player is not BD-Live capable, so it really had me kind of upset when I read that.

So you can still physically download the digital copy for these releases, right? Can the physical download be played in iTunes? I have an iPod Classic, and yeah, it's not fun to watch a movie on there on a consistent basis, it's good once in a while for a trip, and I like to be able to put my Digital Copies on there.

Kory 10-10-11 02:53 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Okay, that's good. My main BD player is not BD-Live capable, so it really had me kind of upset when I read that.

So you can still physically download the digital copy for these releases, right? Can the physical download be played in iTunes? I have an iPod Classic, and yeah, it's not fun to watch a movie on there on a consistent basis, it's good once in a while for a trip, and I like to be able to put my Digital Copies on there.

kefrank 10-10-11 03:14 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by Kory (Post 10959673)
Okay, that's good. My main BD player is not BD-Live capable, so it really had me kind of upset when I read that.

So you can still physically download the digital copy for these releases, right? Can the physical download be played in iTunes? I have an iPod Classic, and yeah, it's not fun to watch a movie on there on a consistent basis, it's good once in a while for a trip, and I like to be able to put my Digital Copies on there.
You can download a local copy. I don't believe it is integrated with iTunes though. My understanding is, you would use the UltraViolet app on your iPod to download the desired content from your UV library (which is in the "cloud") to watch later on the device.

Kory 10-10-11 03:18 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
So if you have an older iPod, you're SOL I guess. I doubt there's an UltraViolet app for an iPod Classic, lol. Oh well.

kefrank 10-10-11 03:25 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by Kory (Post 10959710)
So if you have an older iPod, you're SOL I guess. I doubt there's an UltraViolet app for an iPod Classic, lol. Oh well.
Yeah, that's what it sounds like:
Downloads

UltraViolet titles will soon be available from all UltraViolet participating retailers in a standard downloadable file format that will work on all UltraViolet-compatible media players apps and devices, and which can be copied from one UltraViolet-compatible app/device to another. Members will be able to download at least three of these files from the selling retailer, at no extra charge above the original content purchase price for a period of one year after the purchase. Additional file downloads will be available, and may have service fees associated with providing them. They will be able to play these downloaded files on up to 12 UltraViolet-compatible apps/devices that are currently registered in the Member's UltraViolet account. The functionality and rights for downloads that are described here are planned, but not guaranteed, and are subject to change.

Before UltraViolet's standard downloadable file format and compatible apps/devices become available, the retailer from which the member obtains a title with UltraViolet rights may offer the ability to download files to certain devices. The number and type of devices to which downloads are permitted may vary by retailer and title. Additionally, UltraViolet retailers may offer account members the chance to download files associated with UltraViolet rights they have purchased from other UltraViolet retailers.
On the upside, at least it's a more standardized digital copy scheme with more flexibility and convenience in accessing the content.

Peep 10-10-11 04:16 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Sounds very promising, but I still want to see it in action. It's nothing that I'd want to pay a premium for.

Mr. Cinema 10-10-11 06:17 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
http://i55.tinypic.com/r7vjb8.jpg

Alan Smithee 10-10-11 07:42 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
"Add it to your digital library"? I don't HAVE a digital library!

No Special Equipment
You don't need any special equipment or additional technology to enjoy your UltraViolet Library - watch on the devices you already own today!
You mean my Blu-Ray player and TV, right? Or can I play it on my VCR too? ;)

whotony 10-10-11 07:44 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by Timber (Post 10959397)
Try again. Whatever you tried to post isn't there.

Spottedfeather 10-11-11 04:55 AM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Great. Another fad that's going to die off before you know it. Sort of like 3D....only worse.

bookcase3 10-11-11 12:47 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Read the fine print: the UV DC is yours for only 3 years, then you'll have to pay to use it again. Plus since it doesn't support Apple products -- no import into iTunes -- then it becomes virtually useless for millions of people. This is just studios' war against Apple, who made digital downloads viable.

kefrank 10-11-11 01:18 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by bookcase3 (Post 10960949)
Read the fine print: the UV DC is yours for only 3 years, then you'll have to pay to use it again. Plus since it doesn't support Apple products -- no import into iTunes -- then it becomes virtually useless for millions of people. This is just studios' war against Apple, who made digital downloads viable.
I posted the fine print and it doesn't say anything about the downloaded copies no longer playing after 3 years. Neither do the terms of use. Where did you see that?

Also, I wouldn't say that it's useless for Apple products, since undoubtedly there will be a UV app for iOS. The only real difference in usage is that it will use the UV cloud instead of iTunes/iCloud to deliver to or play on your device.

Mr. Cinema 10-11-11 01:28 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by bookcase3 (Post 10960949)
Read the fine print: the UV DC is yours for only 3 years, then you'll have to pay to use it again. Plus since it doesn't support Apple products -- no import into iTunes -- then it becomes virtually useless for millions of people. This is just studios' war against Apple, who made digital downloads viable.
Apple doesn't support UV. It was their choice not to join up. So that's not the fault of UV. Literally every company is on board, except for Apple and Disney. So I'd say it's Apple's greed and not the "studios' war against Apple" as the reason for the lack of support.

Jay G. 10-11-11 01:28 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by bookcase3 (Post 10960949)
Read the fine print: the UV DC is yours for only 3 years, then you'll have to pay to use it again.
This isn't true. From the FAQ:
http://www.uvvu.com/faqs.php#question-22
Will my UltraViolet Rights expire?
Your rights to the movie or TV show you purchase do not expire
Then it links to this page:
http://www.uvvu.com/uv-offer-details.php

Where some limits are mentioned:
Streaming
UltraViolet rights include streaming from the selling UltraViolet retailer, at no extra charge above the original purchase price, for at least one year after purchase.
It goes on to say that attempting to stream after a year, or with a different retailer, may incur fees, of which you'd be notified of upfront before using.

Downloads
Members will be able to download at least three of these files from the selling retailer, at no extra charge above the original content purchase price for a period of one year after the purchase.
Again, downloading more than 3 copies or downloading after a year may incur fees. However, the previously downloaded copies should be able to be locally transferred between devices, and never expire.

Gizmo 10-12-11 09:58 AM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
So if you have a Jailbroken iPhone, you are out of a luck. A notice pops up when you try and stream. Just a fantastic start to this service.

Jay G. 10-12-11 12:25 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10962031)
So if you have a Jailbroken iPhone, you are out of a luck. A notice pops up when you try and stream. Just a fantastic start to this service.
That's not really surprising. Jailbroken phones can circumvent the DRM, which is why some companies, including Apple, have apps that attempt to detect jailbreaking.

http://www.cultofmac.com/82097/ibook...roken-iphones/
http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum...phone-4.79410/

Gizmo 10-12-11 01:06 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Has nothing to do with UV. Guess they would rather me pirate them.

Jay G. 10-12-11 01:53 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10962292)
Has nothing to do with UV.
Yes it does: UV uses DRM to authorize devices for videos from your account. With a jailbroken device, they can't confirm that the DRM is secure, so they set the app to not work on a jailbroken device. It's the same reason that Apple did it for iBooks, and Optimum did it for their app.

Like those apps though, there's likely going to be a workaround for jailbroken iOS devices implemented soon.

Roybq 10-14-11 03:41 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Anyone able to get the Green Lantern copy to work? I've typed in the website and for whatever reason it's not working. I hate not having an Itunes copy. Going on a plane trip tonight and this would've been a nice way to kill the time.

E Unit 10-14-11 03:55 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
What site are you typing in? I just tried it and it worked fine.

Roybq 10-15-11 01:07 AM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
I typed in the site on the slip. I'll try it later on a different computer

cartman 10-15-11 01:15 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
How do you play the UV copy on an android device? All the site points to is the flixster movie app and that has no UV options.

Goldberg74 12-02-11 09:43 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by Roybq (Post 10965511)
Anyone able to get the Green Lantern copy to work? I've typed in the website and for whatever reason it's not working. I hate not having an Itunes copy. Going on a plane trip tonight and this would've been a nice way to kill the time.
I didn't try, but I did put in a suppoort ticket for a iTunes compatible code (they gave me one for HP7p2) and they responded with this:

Dear XXXXXXX:

Thank you for being one of our best customers and among the first to try UltraViolet™ Digital Copy. Thank you also for contacting us to let us know that your experience wasn't optimal.

While we have received a lot of positive reaction to UltraViolet, we realize that with any new technology there is a learning curve for both creators and consumers, and this is especially true around new user experiences.

It's important to us that you are fully satisfied with your purchase. With that in mind, we will send you a coupon code for an iTunes version of your UltraViolet Digital Copy title so that you can obtain an iOS-compatible download of this title. Please look for an email from the Apple iTunes store with a replacement code.

We also wanted to let you know that you can download your UltraViolet Digital Copy to a supported iOS or Android device. (For a list of supported iOS devices see this article. For a list of supported Android devices, please visit this link.)

We are excited by UltraViolet's ability to offer you a digital locker copy of your purchased title. With UltraViolet today, you can download your title to a PC, Mac, Android, or iOS-compatible device for off-line playback. In addition, you can stream it to your PC, Mac, or compatible iOS and Android devices. You can also add up to six members to your account so that your whole family can enjoy the movie. And UltraViolet provides ongoing access to your titles from the cloud, meaning you will enjoy the benefit of future enhancements to the service, including the addition of new devices, download formats, and retailers.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact us. We'd like to keep the channels of communication open and look forward to hearing from you as we continue our rollout of UltraViolet-enabled titles.

Sincerely,

Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Group and Flixster
Then a just today I got this:

Dear valued customer,

To resolve your Ultraviolet Digital Copy request, we will mail you a Digital Copy disc that includes an iTunes compatible file for PCs and Macs as well as a Windows Media@ file for Windows-based PCs.

Please respond to this email with your name and physical mailing address. The expected delivery time frame is 2-3 weeks from the date we receive your mailing address.

Thank you for contacting UltraViolet Digital Copy Support.

UltraViolet Digital Copy Support Team
So I responded with this:

I'm not sure why you need my mailing address. You guys emailed me the code for the Harry Potter 7 Part 2 iTunes version, but if you want to pay the postage my address is:

[removed]

I hope that there is a privacy clause that precludes you mailing me anything else.

Thanks,

XXXXXXXX
So we'll see what they do. If I get a code in the mail, cool. If they email me one, that's cool too.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 12-03-11 09:40 AM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by cartman (Post 10966455)
How do you play the UV copy on an android device? All the site points to is the flixster movie app and that has no UV options.
The movies are in the Flixster app under your movies or movie library or something similar.

Goldberg74 should try using the code because you get two Green Lantern movies with the code. With the disc, you just might get the one movie.

MasterofDVD 12-03-11 10:06 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
I think I have 4 movies on this UV library "service". I'm not against digital copies but when I tried to watch a movie with my son the other day when we were sitting in the mall waiting for my wife the picture quality was shit even with with a strong signal. If I want a digital copy I'll create my own file and just copy it over to my Bionic. Streaming leaves much to be desired.

whotony 12-07-11 12:17 AM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by Roybq (Post 10965511)
Anyone able to get the Green Lantern copy to work? I've typed in the website and for whatever reason it's not working. I hate not having an Itunes copy. Going on a plane trip tonight and this would've been a nice way to kill the time.
Originally Posted by trespoochies (Post 10965537)
What site are you typing in? I just tried it and it worked fine.
I typed in the site address on the card in The green lantern bluray, it doesn't work so I just typed in flixter.com and that worked.

Despite reading the previous post I was surprised to see the extra movie included with the UV code.
There is an option to download the movies onto my iPad and I guess if I wanted also to my laptop.

E Unit 12-09-11 08:41 AM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Uh oh. Not all is rosy with this service right now.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan.../D9RGHGMO1.htm

xfilekr 12-09-11 09:36 AM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Great article.

davidh777 12-09-11 10:42 AM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Really not looking forward to opening my Black Friday Green Lantern purchase and trying this thing. The fact that Flixster makes me think of Qwikster doesn't help either.

Roybq 12-09-11 05:59 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
I'm so glad that "Cowboys and Aliens" gave a choice of Utraviolet or Itunes/Windows/Amazon. I hope that's the norm from now on. I tried Ultraviolet today and found my account blocked. They sent an email to my spam mail to verify my account. I never read my spam mail, so I never verified it with their 3 day time span. Tried to verify it today and it wouldn't go through. Emailed tech support so we'll see what happens. Loved the article, I read that earlier today and was hoping that it was going to end with the program dismantling.

bluetoast 12-09-11 06:23 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 11036364)
The fact that Flixster makes me think of Qwikster doesn't help either.
Not to mention the Ultraviolet/Ultraviolent connection. :)

Roybq 12-24-11 09:01 PM
Re: The Ultraviolet (UV) Thread
 
Tech support finally responded. They told me to log into my account...and I found it still blocked.

Emailed again and got the same generic response that in no way answered the question that I had asked regarding unblocking my account. I'll try asking for those Itunes codes and then be done with them.


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