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Solid Snake 06-12-11 11:52 PM

Re: Warren Beatty confirms Dick Tracy on Blu-ray
 
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Josh Z 06-13-11 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 10813475)
I missed Dick Tracy on the big screen in 1990, but fell in love with it on VHS and finally got to see a 35mm print at a local theater in 2009--complete with "Roger Rabbit" short--and it was terrific. My only complaint was the soundtrack sounded limited and confined chiefly to the front. Now, the guy who runs these midnight screenings worships the film and I have no doubt he personally saw to it that every A/V setting was as it should have been and the theater is very much up to date so it's not like there was inferior equipment. I'm very interested to hear the new mix.

The Dolby Surround (2.0) track on the old Laserdisc was incredibly aggressive in the surround channel(s). Whenever characters fired Tommy guns toward the camera, the bullets would rattle around in the back. There's also a scene where a character flings a cat that pans nicely through the back speakers when you decode with Dolby ProLogic IIx. I believe the DVD (which was remixed to 5.1) was similarly aggressive.

Dick Tracy was the first movie released in the now-defunct CDS (Cinema Digital Sound) format, which was an early attempt at digital 5.1 surround. (Days of Thunder and Terminator 2 were other notable CDS titles.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_Digital_Sound

In order to show off the format, movies mixed for CDS tended to emphasize the zinging surround effects.

TomOpus 06-13-11 06:00 PM

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T2 in a theater with CDS was the shit.

NoirFan 09-28-12 04:52 PM

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Amazon pre-order is up, with a release date of 12/11.

Spottedfeather 09-28-12 08:40 PM

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I hope that's for real. And I just hope that it doesn't use DTS-HD Master Audio. Even with a properly set up surround system, I just don't like them. I don't know if it's the right word, but it seems artificial to me. Sort of like they amp up certain effects, drowning out (often times) the dialogue.

For features, I'd like to see a commentary with "the Kid", some sort of decent length featurette about the clothing styles and the really incredible cars, and maybe a music only track or, even better, a menu that would let you listen to all the music as a playlist.

DeanoBKN 09-28-12 10:35 PM

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I really hope they do a good job on the features, but something tells me it will be barebones.

Some features on the make up, costumes, set designs, I'll take anything!

Why So Blu? 09-28-12 11:20 PM

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Just pre-ordered. I hope it sticks.

Josh Z 09-29-12 09:24 AM

Re: Warren Beatty confirms Dick Tracy on Blu-ray
 

Originally Posted by Spottedfeather (Post 11404082)
I hope that's for real. And I just hope that it doesn't use DTS-HD Master Audio. Even with a properly set up surround system, I just don't like them. I don't know if it's the right word, but it seems artificial to me. Sort of like they amp up certain effects, drowning out (often times) the dialogue.

DTS-HD Master Audio is just a lossless compression codec, like a ZIP file for audio. It has nothing to do with the movie's sound mix. Whatever's on the studio master is what goes into the DTS MA container. If you don't like the sound of a disc, it's the mix at fault, not the lossless compression.

RocShemp 09-29-12 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 11404535)
DTS-HD Master Audio is just a lossless compression codec, like a ZIP file for audio. It has nothing to do with the movie's sound mix. Whatever's on the studio master is what goes into the DTS MA container. If you don't like the sound of a disc, it's the mix at fault, not the lossless compression.

DTS no longer does remixes, right? Because that's what Spottedfeather's post brought to mind.

NoirFan 09-29-12 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean Kousoulas (Post 11404243)
I really hope they do a good job on the features, but something tells me it will be barebones.

I'm sure of it.

Josh Z 09-30-12 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11404567)
DTS no longer does remixes, right?

Not since the Laserdisc days, when DTS used to do all encoding in-house. Since the DVD era, DTS licenses its encoders to the studios, who do the work themselves.

rexinnih 09-30-12 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 11405633)
Not since the Laserdisc days, when DTS used to do all encoding in-house. Since the DVD era, DTS licenses its encoders to the studios, who do the work themselves.

Thansk Josh for bringing a little bit of truth to the board! And I hope the Dick Tracy just has a wonderful, Lossless soundtrack.

Spottedfeather 09-30-12 05:05 PM

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Why would they mix the audio so low in DTS-HD Master Audio tracks ? The difference between this and 5.1 is staggering. It's the same thing with True-HD, though the difference isn't quite as big.

Drexl 09-30-12 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spottedfeather (Post 11406387)
Why would they mix the audio so low in DTS-HD Master Audio tracks ? The difference between this and 5.1 is staggering. It's the same thing with True-HD, though the difference isn't quite as big.

More dynamic range? In order for certain sounds like explosions to be very loud, the dialogue is set at a relatively low level. If you don't like it, you could see if there's a setting on your player for DRC (dynamic range compression) to bring the sounds closer together in level. If there's a difference on your system between lossless and lossy, it could be partly due to such a setting being enabled for lossy but not applying to lossless.

Movies have not fallen victim to the "loudness wars" in music, where everything is loud and there's a lack of dynamic range.

Spottedfeather 09-30-12 08:23 PM

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You can't use Night Mode on DTS-HD Master Audio.

Solid Snake 09-30-12 08:41 PM

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Night mode? wtf is that?

Spottedfeather 10-01-12 02:10 AM

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Night mode keeps the loud noises from being louder than the soft sounds. Keeps the sound even.

RocShemp 10-01-12 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Spottedfeather (Post 11406737)
You can't use Night Mode on DTS-HD Master Audio.

If your receiver has Dolby Volume or Audyssey Dynamic Volume, you can use either of those with whichever source.

Josh Z 10-01-12 10:52 AM

Re: Warren Beatty confirms Dick Tracy on Blu-ray
 

Originally Posted by Spottedfeather (Post 11406387)
Why would they mix the audio so low in DTS-HD Master Audio tracks ? The difference between this and 5.1 is staggering. It's the same thing with True-HD, though the difference isn't quite as big.

Don't confuse volume for quality. If the volume is too low, you can just turn it up on your receiver. As Drexl explains, most Blu-ray soundtracks are set to a lower default volume than, say, broadcast TV in order to give extra headroom for a movie soundtrack's dynamic range.

DTS tracks are generally set 4 dB louder than Dolby because Dolby uses DialNorm to set a default volume and DTS doesn't. Once you volume match, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio are both 100% identical to the studio master. If they weren't, they couldn't be called lossless.

E Unit 10-03-12 08:09 AM

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kefrank 10-03-12 08:38 AM

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I loved this movie as a kid, but I haven't seen it in forever. I recall the kid being kind of annoying even then. Does it hold up pretty well?

E Unit 10-03-12 08:46 AM

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Somewhat. One of the movie networks was showing it a few months ago and I finally sat and watched it all again. I like the look a lot more this time around, but I was bored a bit by the story. I did still enjoy nearly every actor (especially Pacino) just hamming up their performances. Still worth getting IMO, as long as the price is decent.

Mr. Cinema 10-03-12 09:06 AM

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Hopefully Disney puts a little effort into the transfer on this one.

rexinnih 10-03-12 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by trespoochies (Post 11410455)

Nice, slipcover?

Solid Snake 10-03-12 12:34 PM

Re: Warren Beatty confirms Dick Tracy on Blu-ray
 

Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 11410480)
I loved this movie as a kid, but I haven't seen it in forever. I recall the kid being kind of annoying even then. Does it hold up pretty well?

even watching it as a kid...I didn't give a damn about that kid.


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