Extended cut of 2001 may be coming soon!
 

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:drool:

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Oh grand, a re-release.

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I'll trust that if SK cut it, it doesn't belong

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Amazing stuff. Although I have a hunch that if this footage does see the light of day, it will be presented separately as deleted scenes. I read quite a few times that Kubrick thought it was boring, and was perfectly happy with it cut out.

This would be a quad dip for me, as I already own the 1st Warner release, the 2nd remastering, and the HD-DVD. I haven't gotten rid of the 1st Warner yet, because it has a classic interview with Arthur C. Clarke, which I don't believe was carried over to any other editions. And I can't get rid of my Kubrick set yet, because Barry Lyndon and Lolita aren't yet in High Def.

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If Kubrick was the one to cut it then it belongs outside of the film. There's a reason why this film is as loved as it is all these years later.

On another note, I don't really see the point to a re-release on Blu-ray just so that people can see deleted footage Kubrick didn't want us to see at all.

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Curious to see the extra footage but probably not enough to buy again.

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Though they have been confirmed for 2011. If the new release of 2001 has additional extras as well as the deleted footage, which I assume it will, I'll probably buy it. Counting VHS, this would be the 5th time I've purchased the film, but it's one I never get tired of.

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interesting find...I'm sure it won't get inserted cuz if SK cut it...it wasn't worth having in the film. BUT...I'd like to see wtf he did cut out.

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A re-release with a new transfer is one thing; a recycling with some new extras tacked on is another, IMO.

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Same here. but there's no need at all to change what Kubrick perfected. Additional deleted scenes are fine as a supplement, but don't alter the movie.

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My understanding has always been that the movie premiered with this longer cut and was trimmed down before wider release. As such, I could buy an argument that the longer version is a "real" cut of the movie and could be justified as a release version. They just need to include both cuts, either branched or on separate discs or, ideally, the way the Alien Anthology release handles the Aliens 'Special Edition' footage: you can watch either cut of the movie or you can watch the added scenes as extras.

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I'm intrigued by new footage but apprehensive over the content. What if it's 17 more minutes of "going through the star gate" footage?

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I believe this new release would be the original Roadshow Picture release - a longer version that played in selected theatre back in its original run.

So this doesnt necessarily mean Kubrick cut the footage. The Roadshow edition could have been the actual Director's Cut and what we have is the version the studio forced to be shorter...

So I can't wait to get my hands on this! I hope the transfer is also improved.

Glad I didnt get the BR yet....so this won't be a double-dip for me.

That would be my fear also. I found that sequence tedious in 1968, and still do (and I believe that it WAS longer way back then). I think it was intended to be viewed when high or something.

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Nah, it's mainly excised dialogue. Specifically, the famous cut "bargaining" scene.


HAL 9000
Honestly, Dave, I believe you are effectively throwing away a considerable asset.

HAL 9000 (continued)
I'd be happy to do your taxes, Dave... Dave?

Bowman
I'm not interested in that, HAL.

HAL 9000
Please, Dave... just consider for a moment how efficiently I could organize your stamp collection.

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In his Great Movies article on 2001, Roger Ebert (who was at the first LA screening that showed the 17 minute longer version) said the cut footage included "a pod sequence that essentially repeated another one". Doesn't exactly speak to the quality of the deleted scenes, but it could be interesting as a bonus feature, I guess.

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I thought the transfer on the blu-ray was exceptional. What was wrong with it?

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I don't think there's really anything 'wrong' with it, but it could be improved if re-done today using the better equipment, software and methods that have been developed since that transfer was performed. It's very good, but it could definitely be even better.

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Interesting read. Rock Hudson storming out of the theater. :lol:

Would love to see this additional footage :up:

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it could be better, that's all. always room for improvement as technology progresses.

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cool.. I don't own this movie on any format yet.

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Oh good. Because whenever I watched 2001 before, I was saying "this is too short."

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Like most others, I'm curious to see the footage but I agree that it shouldn't be integrated back into the film. You just don't mess with Stanley's movies.

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AFAIK, Kubrick screened this cut at the premiere, discovered audiences found it boring, and subsequently cut the footage. I don't believe it ever ran that way in any kind of wide release. I'd like to see the footage, but it shouldn't be re-integrated into the film. 2001 is the best film ever made as it is now.

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Assuming it is a legitimate cut, why not give us both and let us decide?

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Define legitimate. People saw it in the theater and Kubrick immediately cut it. The studio didn't demand the cuts, and Kubrick never said it should be changed from its current form. If WB made it clear that this wasn't the way Kubrick intended the movie to be seen, then I guess it wouldn't be too awful if they made it available via seamless branching, although I'd hope they'd also offer them as deleted scenes.

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I think you just answered your own question! :D

I suspect this is indeed the case, but do any of us know it with any authority?

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The footage was cut between the premiere and general release. Unless there was a previous test screening, he might've used the premiere for that purpose. So, while "people" saw it in the theater, the general public saw the version we know today.

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Hardly. I've seen plenty of movies in a theater that differ from the final cut.

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2001: A Space Odyssey is absolutely perfect as is. It doesn't need one frame added or excised. I'd be more interested in that documentary which apparently is no longer happening. :(

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It's fantastic, as is... but you haven't seen the other cut, have you?

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No, and that's not the point. I'm saying that the movie as-is doesn't need enhancement; weaving in extra scenes to create a "longer edit" or "new cut" is nice as a curiosity, maybe, but -- for me -- it holds absolutely no interest. I'd much rather see an in-depth documentary of the film's creation, special effects, original storyline, communications between Kubrick & Clarke, etc.

There are few films that I'm an anal purist about, but "Bitanic" is one of them.

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True enough, but this cut was also only screened once, making it even more rare than the sneaks I'm talking about. I'm just saying that just because a movie is shown to an audience in a theater doesn't mean it's considered a legitimate cut by the filmmakers.

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It's a touchy subject that depends on the artist, but I can't imagine Kubrick, because there has never been any indication from him, would want it reintegrated.

On a personal level, I'm not much of a fan alternate versions that don't have the director's or main creative force's approval. I feel they cheapen the work of art. You either like what the artist presents or don't. It's really not that big of a deal to dislike it and move onto something else. The piece of art cannot speak for itself if it doesn't have a singular voice. It just feels weak. But that is up to the artist only. If they feel presenting multiple versions are fine, then release them.

And I'm not even saying I like all director's cuts, but I really hate lack of integrity when it comes to art. Have a vision and produce it. I'm here do digest your work not make up your mind. If it sucks I'll find something else, there is plenty of it out there.

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Of course it's the point! How can you dismiss an unseen version? If additional material would provide no meaning for you, how can you derive meaning from any film footage?

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Regardless, additional insight into Kubrick's editorial concept would potentially be a very rewarding 'extra' and including this footage into its one-time place in the film would possibly be a much more revealing way of presenting it. I want to know what it feels like in the context of the rest of the movie and how it impacts the story development, pace, etc. The key is to include both cuts.

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No interest. As a bonus feature, sure, bring on the film footage. I don't mind watching it on its own. I just don't think it belongs reinserted in the movie, one that has existed as Kubrick's final vision for the last 42 years.

More is not always better.

It's a personal thing. In contrast, I'm not as bugfuck insistent about the newfound footage in "Metropolis". I'd go berserk if they fucked with Lang's "Woman in the Window" or "Scarlet Street" though...

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It doesn't belong, reinserted in the movie... in other words, of course nothing should be done to the existing, familiar cut which should still be the primary focus of any future releases.

Meanwhile, don't you understand how watching the additional footage in the context of the film might provide more insight (even if only on a subconscious level) into the making of the film (and the thought behind it) than would only being able to see the footage acontextually? And what would anyone have to lose by authoring the disc in a way that would allow viewers to watch this footage either way (cut in or on its own)?

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Look...no matter what the inclusion of those scenes doesn't make it Kubrick's official cut. I want to see them, sure...why not? More stuff to see is cool. OFFER that alternate cut as whatever it was called...AND that TC. The TC is the one that will be held forever as the definitive cut. The possible inclusion of those scenes into it's own cut is fine. Don't just offer this alternate cut, that's not fucking cool. That's essentially erasing or covering what is history, in the sense that people who will only watch it, seeing as in this scenario, it may be the only cut included.

BEST case scenario is that we get the TC and this other cut (to see what it was like in context). Separately it'd also be cool to get them as a deleted scene option to evaluate the clips solely based based on themselves. Added w/ whatever other features we get.