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Dances with Wolves: 20th Anniversary - 1/11/11

Old 11-03-10, 10:30 PM
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Dances with Wolves: 20th Anniversary - 1/11/11

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Fox and MGM have set a Dances with Wolves: 20th Anniversary Edition for release on Blu-ray on 1/11/11 (SRP $29.99). Dances with Wolves will be the extended cut of the film, with 7.1 DTS-HD MA audio. Most of the previous DVD extras will be included on these Blu-rays, along with newly-produced material. I'll have a more detailed list of the contents for you tomorrow.
Fox have been releasing some absolutely amazing discs this fall, I seriously hope they aren't dropping the ball by only including the Extended Edition of the film on this release. When I see words like XXth Anniversay, Im expecting at least something close to definitive, and the lack of a theatrical cut is not something I'd expect from a "definitive" release.

Going by the cover art, Id assume this is going to be a digibook type release as well.
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I'll definitely drop my import if this has new material and comes in a digibook. Extended cut is nice too.
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I must admit I thought the extended cut of Dances with Wolves was a snoozer. but my opinion may change since it's been ages since I've last seen it.
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Fox have been releasing some absolutely amazing discs this fall
Save for "Last of the Mohicans".
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^ don't remind me.
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Re: Dances with Wolves: 20th Anniversary - 1/11/11

Glad I held off in buying that German release. I'll be getting this Day 1. Just wish they could put the theatrical cut on the set as well.

Question though - if Fox and MGM will be releasing the Blu Ray, who will actually be remastering it? If I recall, all previous DVD releases were produced by MGM. I would assume/hope MGM would handle the transfer. I dunno...
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Save for "Last of the Mohicans".
Well, I suppose Mann should be "blamed" for that, rather than Fox
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What'd Mann do?
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What'd Mann do?
A lot of people seem to hate the new Transfer for Mohicans due to how dark it is, but the blu-ray was supervised and re-cut by Mann, and since the darkness is due to the color timing, etc, rather than due to the transfer, Id guess that its something that Mann himself approved.
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The Last of the Mohicans BD is great, but there's a place to talk about it, and it's not here.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/hd-talk/576...er-amazon.html

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The Last of the Mohicans BD is great, but there's a place to talk about it, and it's not here.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/hd-talk/576...er-amazon.html

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Well, smell you!
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This was one of my Dad's favorite films. I've never seen it though, unfortunately. I think I'll make a blind buy of this when it comes out.
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I dunno....I never really thought this film was all that great. Thought it was pretty boring in comparison to Goodfellas. Yeah that's right...I brought up that argument again.

On a HD tech side of me...I'd like to know which version of hte film is here and what features are associated w/ it....
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I dunno....I never really thought this film was all that great. Thought it was pretty boring in comparison to Goodfellas. Yeah that's right...I brought up that argument again.
Careful Solid Snake, doctorthodt is gonna dig up old threads about this.
And end the discussion here. You really want that?
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It was...I DO kinda want to see it again JUST to see if maybe...I've matured enough or something to dig it.
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I must admit I thought the extended cut of Dances with Wolves was a snoozer, but my opinion may change since it's been ages since I've last seen it.
Your opinion won't change, it drags like hell at 236 minutes. The Theatrical cut is long at 181 minutes, but very well-paced.

The fact that they are withholding the cut of a film that won Best Picture and Best Film Editing is a travesty, especially in the age of seamless branching.

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The fact that they are withholding the cut of a film that won Best Picture and Best Film Editing is a travesty, especially in the age of seamless branching.

Spot on.
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I must admit I thought the extended cut of Dances with Wolves was a snoozer. but my opinion may change since it's been ages since I've last seen it.
I think the 3 hour theatrical version is awesome and not boring at all, and even I found the 4 hour extended version boring as well and never want to see that version again! It just drags completely, whereas the theatrical version was paced perfectly in my honest opinion. So if you've never seen the original theatrical version, give it a fair chance and if you still hate the film, then it's just not for you and that's fine.

The film did win Best Picture, so it's strange the version that won Best Picture is not being released on Blu-ray? The least they could do is include both versions of the film, but MGM/Fox have been really bad in that regards. They released a special edition of the extended version on dvd and regulated the theatrical cut to a pan & scan only dvd release. So I had to track down the old Image dvd release for the theatrical version in widescreen. Now it appears that trend of shunning the superior theatrical version is continuing on the new format unless the specs change, and that's a shame.
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....Now it appears that trend of shunning the superior theatrical version is continuing on the new format unless the specs change, and that's a shame.
Agreed. This has also happened with:
  • Amadeus (Best Picture, 1985), missing Theatrical Cut;
  • The Last Emperor (Best Picture, Best Film Editing, Best Cinematography, 1987), missing Director's Cut, altered Aspect Ratio.
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....So I had to track down the old Image DVD release for the theatrical version in widescreen.
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If we only get the extended version on blu, I will buy it and watch it and just wait for the UK version to reach bargain bin price and pick that one up as well. It's a barebones release and while the theatrical version is a terrific movie, it's not like I'm going to be sitting down and watching the 3 hour version any time soon after watching the 4 hour one anyway.
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Seriously, no theatrical cut? That would really suck

The main reason that I didn't buy the Last of the Mohicans was because it didn't have the theatrical cut. (The dark video do bother me, but wouldn't have effected my decision)

Lot of movies had both or more versions on the same disc, why can't the "Best Picture" movie??

Alien Anthology, Beauty and the Beast, Leon, Gladiator, King Kong, Close Encounter of the Third Kind, T2, Terminator Salvation, Stargate, and others had it.

I would rather pay little more and wait longer for this blu-ray to be done right than to have this released on January.
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I'd much rather have Costner's Open Range on blu than DwW.
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Your opinion won't change, it drags like hell at 236 minutes. The Theatrical cut is long at 181 minutes, but very well-paced.
Yikes. A 4 hour movie????

I really like the movie but can't say I've ever seen the extended cut and can't imagine myself ever wanting to sit through a 4 hour movie.
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I'd much rather have Costner's Open Range on blu than DwW.
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I loved this movie when it was called Little Big Man. (When is that coming out on Blu?)

DWW is a good enough movie so I'll probably pick it up. Nice cinematography at any rate.
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