Corey31

The Beauty and the Beast sequels/spin-offs weren't released at the same time as the Diamond release of that film.

I think Disney wants to forget they ever made direct-to-DVD sequels of their classic films in the late 90s/early 2000s.

Solid Snake

Fuck the sequels. Those don't count. Thankfully...they're sooooo overwhelmed by how awesome and great the originals are that they're rarely mentioned.

Giles

Amazon has a 10$ off link now - preordered mine today at $17.99

Gizmo

I got this today...and no, the artwork remains the same

whotony

someone on HTF is saying the audio is dts-hR HR not dts-hd MA.

Gizmo since you have it can you verify?

CombatCraig

Can you provide the link - I'm not seeing it

obidawsn

Notice that that post was made back in November. That offer has long expired.

Gizmo

Twice on the slip cover it says:
English 7.1 DTS-HD High Resolution Audio

I'll pop it in tonight and verify what it says on screen.

Gizmo

English 7.1 DTS-HD HR



Sorry guys.

Giles

someone remind what's the difference between HR and MA?

Gizmo

One is lossless (MA) one is not (HR). HR is rarely used on the format. I can't think of another title.

Kory

WTF, Disney?

The Valeyard

I believe Doctor Who: The Complete Specials and Doctor Who Series 5 both have HR audio.

Is there a proper list anywhere online that keeps track of this?

Matthew Chmiel

It's nice to see Disney got lazy on one of their more popular catalog titles.

Superdaddy

Not cool with the lack of lossless audio on this one. I wonder why this didn't get it whereas seemingly every other Disney BD has it.

Even Warner, who once put lossy tracks on a lot of titles, now have lossless on just about all new releases--even if it's just lossless mono for older movies.

TerryW

This doesn't bother me in the least. With early films from this era ('30's-'40's), I almost never choose the 7.1 option but go for the original track (if provided). I'm happy to see a Restored Original Soundtrack option on this release. The original audio is as important to me as the OAR.

Superdaddy

I wonder if the original audio is lossy on this disc as well. (I'd say it's a certainty since the surround remix is not lossless).

I am likewise glad that the original track is included. But since this is Blu-ray Disc, not DVD, and has a much greater data capacity than DVD, some consumers would like to see that capacity put to full use, which includes lossless audio tracks. IMO, there should be at least one on every BD.

Bambi is a great film, and Disney's decision to go with lossy audio will not dissuade me from buying it. But I do believe those who have expressed disappointment with the lack of a lossless track are making a legitimate complaint about what is supposed to be a premium format.

Josh Z

Die Hard 2, though that's an authoring error, not a deliberate decision by the studio.

A handful of foreign releases use DTS HR rather than MA. You're right that it's very rare, though.

Gizmo

Wow, forgot about that (error) title. I figured probably some Music/budget releases used it, but no major title by a studio.

Tangeled is also showing a HR track. Guess we'll know in a few weeks.

Giles

you're shitting me... boo Disney, the 7.1 soundmix deserves MA not HR...

Arthur Dent

Saw the back cover for Tangled. The English track was listed as DTS-HD MA. French track was DTS-HD HR.

Giles

oh thank god! the bluray should have two english DTS soundtracks like the Toy Story 3 bluray that has discrete 7.1 (DTS-HD MA) and 5.1 (DTS-HD MA)

Matthew Chmiel

Every film released on Blu-ray should have lossless audio. Let it be mono, stereo, surround, whatever. It's 2011 and lossless audio should be a requirement regardless of the title.

Both the 7.1 remix and the original stereo soundtrack should be lossless on Bambi. The film is 70 minutes long and a majority of the bonus material is in standard definition. You could have both audio tracks in lossless at a bit rate of 10mbps and there would still be plenty of space available.

WMAangel

THIS x100000000000000

It is sad to see studios regressing at this point, as other than Warner's TV & Kids divisions (and some C or D level studios/distributors), I thought this issue had already been put to bed long ago....
Now we have Universal, who had been completely lossless up until this point, releasing Uncle Buck with a lossy track a couple weeks ago...and while that was a "budget title" (still no excuse), worse yet we now have Disney going lossy on one of their crown jewel Diamond titles? Seriously?? If you have to pick a title to skimp on, can't they just save it for one of their DTV cheap-quels???

WMAangel

A lot of the early Lionsgate titles used DTS-HD HR:
American Psycho
Basic Instinct
The Devil's Rejects
Employee Of The Month
First Blood
House Of 1000 Corpses
King Of New York
Reservoir Dogs
Saw II
Saw III
Stargate (first release)
Stir Of Echoes
Total Recall
Young Guns

I haven't seen any other titles released with HR in a few years though....