Well, look at it from a cost/benefit ratio. The cost of letting technical bugs through is enormous: Everyone will know there's a fault in the disc when they encounter it. The cost of content bugs is much smaller: Only those intimately familiar with the film will pick up on it.

I'm not defending it, but you know that's how the studios look at it.

^ Sad, but true. Your average consumer will still say, "Wow, it looked sooooo awesome!", regardless of what might actually be on the disc.

Let us remember Predator...*sigh*

how can someone remove a filter effect from a 'print' transfer? sounds intentional to me. like the controversial 'green filter' scene that Criterion did to 'Pierrot le Fou'

I do have to ask, what are the other audio options? Is there a way to hear this in stereo or mono with the correct take from Janet?

^ Original Mono track is included.

Well, there is that at least. Not that it excuses the screw up, but at least you can hear the original audio without problems.

Yep, I mentioned that the original mono track was fine on the previous page. So if you're a purist, the audio goof won't be a problem.

Doesn't that stop people from buying them? You'd think they'd get the message if these sat on the shelves (and didn't get stolen either due to said spider-alarm-thingies.) I don't think I've ever bought a box set or anything else that used those there, but I do often go to Target to get releases that are in those stupid slipcovers with no shrinkwrap over them, which will be ruined by price tags at other stores. (And Best Buy wonders why its media sales are slipping when they do that...)

I was thinking more of the team that was doing the actual conversion of the source material to the new format. You'd think they WOULD be comparing it to what they just converted it from to make sure it looks/sounds the same. But I'm not that familiar with the conversion/restoration process to know what goes on. Just disappointed when things like this happen.

And the filters won't bother me that much, I was more worried about the sound goof. Glad to hear that at least the mono track isn't affected. Still didn't get a chance to listen yet, but I'm going to try again tonight.

I was watching this last night. Very interesting audio mix with the instruments and sound effects separated in the front and rears. The issue with the wrong Janet track isn't as bad as someone made it out to be. There's one note that's different and the sync issue is also on the DVD. I think it's was more jarring because of the new mix: some vocals are more prominent so it stands out more. As was noted, there's always the original mono track.

While the loss of the audience participation audio track sucks (gonna keep my DVD), there is the addition of the Shadowcast in a window at the bottom right of the screen. For those that have not seen it in the theater with a Shadowcast present, this is a real treat. The audtions "doc" was interesting but tended to focus on the better tryouts. I would've liked to have seen some of the worst

Yeah but do you guys remember the participation track that was on the DVD, it was awful. I wish they would bring the one that was realized on CD back in the day and sync that one up.

You mean replace the audio? I don't think so. Aside from Cabin Fever, I don't think a studio has ever 'fixed' a disc like with the problem Rocky Horror has. Plus, BD-Live has become pretty much a joke. Does any studio actually use it for anything besides Trailers? Even Disney has dropped all their Online 'features' and just moved them to the disc (or just not present at all).

Yea, it was not a very high-quality track. IIRC, it was sourced from the 1983 LP, and was muddled, and had a lot of folks adding in their own stuff that wasn't part of the "official" callback cannon.

How much is actually in the "official" callback canon anyway?

It always seemed to me the best stuff was of course going to be strictly local in jokes with only a handful of material being nation wide (barring the props).

I wish more we could get an audience track specifically close captioned so you can actually hear/read all the stuff people are yelling. I've never been able to understand everything that's said in that track.

Then again, most of the time I could never understand what they were yelling when I actually went to one of the shows either. :-)

This is the specific reason why I like this one the best:


It is mostly clear, everyone is in-sync with one another and all canon.

My bad:

It's "canon", not "cannon".

Survival of the Dead used BD-Live to download a new commentary track. After downloading, the track is present in the audio menu as if it had always been there.

Yeah, but that's not a fix, it's a Special Feature. I don't see Fox fixing this issue

And it would have to be a 7.1 Lossless track...so were talking a good 1-2GB File (vs a much smaller Commentary track).

Not if it was just replacing a portion of the audio. It's wishful thinking, but would be nice if it could happen, since a new disc is probably out of the question.

I've got that on CD. I always thought it was just an incoherent for the audience as well. Probably should try to listen to it again.

I tried listening to this (on DVD) again a couple of nights ago and turned it off almost immediately. I couldn't make out anything that was being said/yelled.

Yeah, the audio mix-up isn't horrible, but it definitely sounds like they used an entirely different take for the first 3rd of the song for everyone. Ah well. Rest of the movie looked and sounded great.

Didn't realize they dropped the audience participation track. Wish I had read this before opening the BD. That was the best part for me. Now I'll have to get the DVD again.

So, what do the Brad and Janet bedroom scenes look like without the filter? Are they just silhouettes in white light?