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Copper Blue 10-06-10 08:06 AM

David Lynch Foreign Releases
 
Thought I'd start a thread to track the slew of upcoming foreign David Lynch releases that aren't available in the USA. As far as I can tell we have:

Mulholland Drive: UK is out but is Region B LOCKED. French version just came out but I can't find any reviews to check Reigon coding. Can anyone confirm?

Lost Highway: Release in France on 11/11/10. No reviews or Region coding info yet.

Wild at Heart: Already out in France (as Sailor and Lula) but has forced french subs. Being re-released in France on 10/19 and in the UK on 10/25. No reviews or Region coding info yet.

islandclaws 10-06-10 10:52 AM

Re: David Lynch Foreign Releases
 
I need to get a multi-region player just for Mulholland Dr.

biglou114 10-06-10 11:16 AM

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There's also the Studio Canal release of The Elephant Man.

Josh Z 10-06-10 02:11 PM

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Dune is already available here in the US, but there are different editions in France and Germany. The US release has the superior transfer.

applesandrice 10-06-10 02:12 PM

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There's a UK or France Blu-ray release of "Fire Walk With Me" coming up, too, if it's not out already.

The rotten part about these is the potential audio pitch issues. I seem to remember that was a problem on the HD DVD releases of "Mulholland Dr." and "The Elephant Man" . . .

Oliver Clothesoff 10-06-10 02:38 PM

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INLAND EMPIRE - UK release is Region B locked

I've got the French MK2 versions of Lost Highway and Fire Walk with Me on preorder, but I'm hoping there are reviews to confirm things such as forced-subtitles and PAL audio issues. If I recall the MK2 DVD of Lost Highway did not have forced French subtitles on English audio, but did suffer from a pitched audio.

nitin77 10-06-10 08:42 PM

Re: David Lynch Foreign Releases
 
no pitch issues with Mulholland Drive blu ray

Josh Z 10-07-10 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver Clothesoff (Post 10414906)
If I recall the MK2 DVD of Lost Highway did not have forced French subtitles on English audio, but did suffer from a pitched audio.

All European DVDs have a pitch increase due to the nature of PAL video. That shouldn't affect a high-def release, ideally. However, Studio Canal has a history of screwing up the audio quality of its HD discs. So long as MK2 avoids making the same mistakes that Studio Canal has, pitch shouldn't be a concern. That seems to be specifically a Studio Canal quality control problem.

Josh Z 10-07-10 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nitin77 (Post 10415694)
no pitch issues with Mulholland Drive blu ray

I will have to reserve judgment on that until I hear it myself. Many people have said that the Mulholland Drive HD DVD didn't have pitch problems, but it so glaringly does.

Dan 10-07-10 10:04 AM

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Please report back after you've had a chance to hear it, Josh. :) That'll be an instant purchase for me.

hbilly 10-07-10 10:13 AM

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The German release of Wild at Heart has no forced subs and looks marvelous. Region B locked though.

rabidgoatboy 10-07-10 10:31 AM

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Does anyone know if Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me has any deleted scenes on the blu-ray?

nitin77 10-08-10 03:49 AM

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I have the Aus release of Wild at Heart which has the german classification logo on the disc so I am guessing it is the same disc.

But there is a screwup with the sound on the Aus disc at least, even though it is listed as 5.1 DTS HD-MA and the player/receiver identifies it as the same, it is definitely 2 channel with dialogue coming from all front speakers.

hbilly, how is your german copy in this regard?

Josh, never got the HD-DVD but the blu ray sounds fine to me.

Josh Z 10-08-10 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nitin77 (Post 10418405)
But there is a screwup with the sound on the Aus disc at least, even though it is listed as 5.1 DTS HD-MA and the player/receiver identifies it as the same, it is definitely 2 channel with dialogue coming from all front speakers.

At some point over the last decade, Lynch decided that he hates surround sound. When he supervised the video and audio transfers for MGM's last DVD, the soundtrack was encoded as 5.1, but only the front three channels had activity (meaning, it was really 3.0). Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire were mixed similarly, as were the "5.1" remasters for The Elephant Man and Blue Velvet. So a lack of surround activity may not necessarily mean there's a technical fault with any of these discs. That's just Lynch's current preference.

However, dialogue shouldn't be coming from all three front speakers, just from the center. If that's happening, something is probably wrong.


Josh, never got the HD-DVD but the blu ray sounds fine to me.
Some people are more sensitive to pitch increase than others. Unfortunately, I am very sensitive to it. Have you watched many PAL DVDs and noticed the pitch there?

nitin77 10-08-10 10:23 PM

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josh,

I've just got a hold of the r1 dvd of Wild at Heart and am going to do a comparison. But dialogue coming from all three front speakers is a bit of a giveaway I think that something is not right.

As for PAL speedup, I am in Australia so have about 50% of my collection in PAL. I'm not that sensitive to PAL speedup pitch issues, I do notice it but its not something that bothers me that much. But the pitch issue for SC BD's is different, its a further speedup of a 25fps source and I cant notice this on the MD BD. That said, I supposed you wont have confirmation until you hear it yourself :) Getting it soon?

asianxcore 10-11-10 12:09 AM

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For anyone interested Blu-Ray.com posted their review of the UK Mullholland Drive disc.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Mulhol.../11187/#Review

nitin77 10-11-10 03:19 AM

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Did the Wild at Heart comparison, the 5.1 track on the r1 dvd doesnt exhibit the problem mentioned with the Universal blu ray (at least the Australia version but probably others if its the same disc in all european countries).

Have sent an email to universal australia, doubt I'd get a response though.

K.O.P. 10-11-10 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nitin77 (Post 10418405)
I have the Aus release of Wild at Heart which has the german classification logo on the disc so I am guessing it is the same disc.

But there is a screwup with the sound on the Aus disc at least, even though it is listed as 5.1 DTS HD-MA and the player/receiver identifies it as the same, it is definitely 2 channel with dialogue coming from all front speakers.

I bought the Nordic release of Wild at heart, the disc bears British, Irish, German, Dutch and Australian classification logos, and the DTS-HD MA 5.1 mix definitely has surround activity.

nitin77 10-11-10 08:24 PM

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K.O.P.,

sorry my mistake, I should have been clearer. The error is not that there is no surround activity, as you say there is.

But the dialogue comes from all three front speakers and is not confined to the centre speaker like a proper 5.1 mix, it is more akin to the way 2 channel sound would be output.

Josh Z 10-12-10 12:34 PM

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Can either of you confirm whether Wild at Heart is the American or international cut of the film? The difference is only one shot:

Spoiler:
When Willem Dafoe's head is blown off by the shotgun, the gore effect is obscured by smoke in the American cut. It's unobscured (and looks quite fakey) in the international cut.

doctorthodt 10-12-10 01:59 PM

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It's the American cut.

nitin77 10-12-10 06:26 PM

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yes, not uncut.

Josh Z 10-18-10 02:53 PM

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Thanks. That's actually good news, as far as I'm concerned. I prefer the smoke effect. The gore looks really fake and cheesy without it.

Copper Blue 10-18-10 05:52 PM

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Blu-ray.com forums say both the UK and French Mulholland Dr are region locked. We're never gonna see that damn movie on Blu.

BUZZKILL.

Ralph Jenkins 10-18-10 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Copper Blue (Post 10438173)
Blu-ray.com forums say both the UK and French Mulholland Dr are region locked. We're never gonna see that damn movie on Blu.

BUZZKILL.

I can confirm that the UK Mulholland Drive BD doesn't have the audio pitch issue. I bought the HD DVD and I noticed it right away with that. The BD also has some solid extras.

Dan 10-19-10 01:16 PM

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I really want Mulholland Drive, but who owns the rights in North America? I don't want to import from the UK if there's a NA release in the works.

HumanMedia 10-19-10 06:03 PM

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Has anyone got the new French reissue of Wild at Heart?
Is it the uncut version?
Does it have forced French subs (like the first release)?
Are the extras English friendly?

Josh Z 10-21-10 11:05 AM

Re: David Lynch Foreign Releases
 

Originally Posted by Ralph Jenkins (Post 10438512)
I can confirm that the UK Mulholland Drive BD doesn't have the audio pitch issue. I bought the HD DVD and I noticed it right away with that. The BD also has some solid extras.

Excellent news! Thanks!

Josh Z 10-21-10 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SomethingMore (Post 10439540)
I really want Mulholland Drive, but who owns the rights in North America? I don't want to import from the UK if there's a NA release in the works.

Universal has the American rights.

Josh Z 10-21-10 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HumanMedia (Post 10440102)
Has anyone got the new French reissue of Wild at Heart?
Is it the uncut version?
Does it have forced French subs (like the first release)?
Are the extras English friendly?

I don't have the disc, but someone on the HDD forum reported that it's the American theatrical cut (with smoke over the shotgun gore). The same disc is being released in England next week, so I'd have to assume that it's English friendly and no forced subs.

However, this person claims that there's something wrong with the audio mix, because he's hearing dialogue come from all three front channels simultaneously. But this is only one report so far, and I haven't heard anyone corroborate it yet.

big e 10-21-10 04:00 PM

Re: David Lynch Foreign Releases
 
This isn't foreign release related, but I don't where else to put it. Did Lynch's The Elephant Man ever get released in the U.S.? I recall seeing it pop up on releaselists.com and a few people talked about it on here, but I can't find it online anyplace. I thought it was mentioned that it would be an Amazon exclusive, but the only Elephant Man BDs that show up are imports. Again, I apologize for going (kinda) off topic.

HumanMedia 10-21-10 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by big e (Post 10444267)
This isn't foreign release related, but I don't where else to put it. Did Lynch's The Elephant Man ever get released in the U.S.? I recall seeing it pop up on releaselists.com and a few people talked about it on here, but I can't find it online anyplace. I thought it was mentioned that it would be an Amazon exclusive, but the only Elephant Man BDs that show up are imports. Again, I apologize for going (kinda) off topic.

Not officially. Some resellers like Amazon had vendors who did import it for awhile (probably until they were told not too).

Dan 10-22-10 10:22 AM

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Is there a Blu-ray release of Lost Highway anywhere in the world at this point?

edit: just saw the OP :lol: Nov 11th in France. Looks like I'll have to get my hands on it somehow.

riotinmyskull 11-03-10 02:36 PM

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dvdbeaver on UK WILD AT HEART release (region free!): http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCom...ildatheart.htm

islandclaws 11-03-10 03:05 PM

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Gee, I just love it when DVD Beaver uses tons of NSFW caps in their reviews.

PopcornTreeCt 11-03-10 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 10470933)
Gee, I just love it when DVD Beaver uses tons of NSFW caps in their reviews.

God Bless 'em!

caligulathegod 11-04-10 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rabidgoatboy (Post 10416576)
Does anyone know if Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me has any deleted scenes on the blu-ray?

According to the comments on the Amazon.FR site, the deleted scenes are still not included.

riotinmyskull 12-06-10 05:36 PM

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french region B locked review: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDRev...thighwayr4.htm

Gizmo 12-06-10 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by caligulathegod (Post 10471957)
According to the comments on the Amazon.FR site, the deleted scenes are still not included.

Thats out? Time to import!

islandclaws 12-13-10 02:23 PM

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DVD Beaver on Twin Peaks: FWWM

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCom...walkwithme.htm

(Region B)


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