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milo bloom 08-08-11 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkees (Post 10882102)
Incorrect. I thought the same thing but if you buy it at DMC you have your choice and you should also have a choice when you get it in a retail store of a DVD case or a BD case.

What are you saying is incorrect? I have it, it's in my house and it's in a DVD sized case. If it's not from DMC, then whatever. I bought it used. I just thought it weird that I found it two weeks before it's retail release date.

Travis McClain 08-08-11 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 10882795)
What are you saying is incorrect? I have it, it's in my house and it's in a DVD sized case. If it's not from DMC, then whatever. I bought it used. I just thought it weird that I found it two weeks before it's retail release date.

I believe he was pointing out that you can also get it in a Blu-ray case...which I had already pointed out in the post before his.

Disc-Flipper 08-08-11 09:06 PM

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I imagine both the classic and the new Winnie the Pooh movies will make their way onto Blu in the fall?

TheBang 08-08-11 09:48 PM

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The new one is up for pre-order already (no date yet): http://www.amazon.com/Winnie-the-Poo.../dp/B005ELMC1U

I would hope "Many Adventures" would be coming too, but no word yet.

Going back to 3D for a second, with this batch of upcoming 3D releases, what Disney movies are we missing in Blu-ray 3D? Up, Toy Story 1/2/3. Any others?

AmityBoatTours 08-10-11 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Todd B. (Post 10883157)
The new one is up for pre-order already (no date yet): http://www.amazon.com/Winnie-the-Poo.../dp/B005ELMC1U

I would hope "Many Adventures" would be coming too, but no word yet.

Going back to 3D for a second, with this batch of upcoming 3D releases, what Disney movies are we missing in Blu-ray 3D? Up, Toy Story 1/2/3. Any others?

I think just the disney/pixar ones you metnitoned as well as UP 3D
And now that disney is pretty much Day and date with their 3D titles, they have done a kick a$$ job of catching up on their catalog 3D releases this year. now if they could pick up the steam on their non Diamond edition Animated classics we would be all set, I have a feeling 2012 will be disneys big year in that aspect

Mabuse 08-19-11 01:45 PM

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Did everyone see DVD Savants info about the restoration of 20,000 Leagues? He saw a screening in Hollywood. Sounds like too much restoration (crossing the line into revisionism) to me, but I'll reserve judgment.


A quick report on the opening night of this year's technical symposium The Reel Thing here in Hollywood, mounted by the Association of Moving Image Archivists (AMIA):

The first night's opening screening, provided by Disney, was the 'world premiere' of a 4k digital restoration of their CinemaScope blockbuster 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Disney executives gave a brief explanation of what was done to maximize the film's colors; they also said that no "grain management" or "sharpness enhancement" was applied to the picture. They even presented the film exactly as it had been premiered for Christmas of 1854, with a Donald Duck cartoon.

The execs explained very clearly the improvements made to the picture. 20,000 has numerous shots plagued by the "CinemaScope Mumps" -- any actor in a close-up (or a tight two-shot) looks horizontally squashed, and always has. It was an early flaw of the anamorphic process. By scanning the original negatives, Disney reclaimed more "real estate" on the horizontal axis. Bits of image area to the extreme left and right had always been unused because it was covered by magnetic soundtracks. For the shots with "Mumps", the extra width allowed the digital compositors to squeeze the image slightly -- without blowing it up -- putting Captain Nemo's face back into proper proportions. It really helps.

I'm not sure, but I think that something similar was done to Warners remasterings of A Star Is Born and Love Me Or Leave Me, both of which no longer seem to have squashed-head close-ups in new DVD and Blu-ray versions.

Two other notes. We were told that the density (and slight softness) of original Technicolor prints effectively hid the many wires used to manipulate the giant squid's arms in the stormy battle scene. When scanned at 4k, the sharpness and less-dark blacks revealed more wires. So Disney painted them out, as they weren't originally visible. I also heard noted editor & film expert Rick Mitchell say something after the show that immediately got my attention. When the bomb goes off, one view of the exploding island with the sub in the foreground was filmed flat, and allowed to stretch out horizontally. That's apparently been fixed as well. I was looking for it and thought I missed it; Mitchell pointed it out.

I'm off to the first full day of presentations and screenings and will report in the evening .... Thanks for reading, Glenn Erickson
Regarding the shot of the explosion filmed flat and then stretched to anamophic, I believe that was done deliberately in order to make the explosion look like a mushroom cloud. "Fixing" it would be a big mistake.

jjcool 08-19-11 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 10894755)
Did everyone see DVD Savants info about the restoration of 20,000 Leagues? He saw a screening in Hollywood. Sounds like too much restoration (crossing the line into revisionism) to me, but I'll reserve judgment.

They even presented the film exactly as it had been premiered for Christmas of 1854
Regarding the shot of the explosion filmed flat and then stretched to anamophic, I believe that was done deliberately in order to make the explosion look like a mushroom cloud. "Fixing" it would be a big mistake.

Didn't realize this movie was that old.
Seriously though, this was and is one of my favorite live action Disney movies. Most of the changes sound like cleanup work to me. Fixing limitations in the technology from back then. I dont see any guns turning into walkie talkies, or Greedo shooting first here. Unless there was more to the article than was quoted?

TomOpus 08-19-11 06:02 PM

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Can't wait to see it with the restoration done. Can't imagine how great it will look.

Superdaddy 08-19-11 06:55 PM

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20,000 Leagues on BD here we come (hopefully sooner rather than later)!

Breakfast with Girls 08-20-11 01:07 AM

Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
 

Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 10894755)
Did everyone see DVD Savants info about the restoration of 20,000 Leagues? He saw a screening in Hollywood. Sounds like too much restoration (crossing the line into revisionism) to me, but I'll reserve judgment.

Regarding the shot of the explosion filmed flat and then stretched to anamophic, I believe that was done deliberately in order to make the explosion look like a mushroom cloud. "Fixing" it would be a big mistake.

Those changes all seem reasonable to me. Like jjcool said, they're all technical in nature.

AmityBoatTours 08-21-11 03:37 AM

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bringing the thread back to the subject of the ANIMATED CLASSICS line.
Amazon now has pre orders up for Meet the Robinsons 3D,Chicken Little 3D and Bolt 3D

Trevor 08-21-11 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AmityBoatTours (Post 10896166)
bringing the thread back to the subject of the ANIMATED CLASSICS line.
Amazon now has pre orders up for Meet the Robinsons 3D,Chicken Little 3D and Bolt 3D

Does not compute.

Joe Schmoe 08-21-11 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AmityBoatTours (Post 10896166)
bringing the thread back to the subject of the ANIMATED CLASSICS line.
Amazon now has pre orders up for Meet the Robinsons 3D,Chicken Little 3D and Bolt 3D

I'm always looking for more 3D content, but I just can't get excited about these 3 titles. In fact, I tried watching Meet the Robinsons last night and quit after 30 minutes. That one's strictly for kids IMHO. Haven't seen Chicken Little, but it sure looks like another one that only kids would enjoy. Saw Bolt 3D in the theater back in the day, but I didn't care for it (especially the cat). Now that Disney is releasing Lion King and Beauty & the Beast in 3D, I hope they continue the trend and release more of their classic 2D animated titles in 3D.

Travis McClain 08-21-11 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Schmoe (Post 10896264)
I'm always looking for more 3D content, but I just can't get excited about these 3 titles. In fact, I tried watching Meet the Robinsons last night and quit after 30 minutes. That one's strictly for kids IMHO. Haven't seen Chicken Little, but it sure looks like another one that only kids would enjoy. Saw Bolt 3D in the theater back in the day, but I didn't care for it (especially the cat). Now that Disney is releasing Lion King and Beauty & the Beast in 3D, I hope they continue the trend and release more of their classic 2D animated titles in 3D.

I kinda like Meet the Robinsons and Chicken Little, actually. I got both on Blu-ray as anniversary selections with Disney Movie Rewards (one in each of the last two years), having not seen either before that. I readily concede they're not in the same league as The Lion King or The Princess and the Frog, but I found I liked more than I disliked about each of them.

Gizmo 08-21-11 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AmityBoatTours (Post 10896166)
bringing the thread back to the subject of the ANIMATED CLASSICS line.
Amazon now has pre orders up for Meet the Robinsons 3D,Chicken Little 3D and Bolt 3D

None of those are classics... Just crappy Disney movies that came out that happen to be getting 3D Releases.

The Monkees 08-21-11 12:47 PM

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Bolt was a good movie, I didn't see the other 2 movies though.

Adam Tyner 08-21-11 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 10896273)
I kinda like Meet the Robinsons and Chicken Little, actually. I got both on Blu-ray as anniversary selections with Disney Movie Rewards (one in each of the last two years), having not seen either before that.

For what it's worth, I'm right there with you. Well, mostly, I guess. I really, really like Bolt and Meet the Robinsons. Chicken Little was better than I thought it'd be -- my expectations were really low since seemingly everyone, everywhere can't stand it -- but I don't know if I'd say I thought it was good, exactly.

Michael Corvin 08-21-11 01:12 PM

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Yeah, Bolt is solid, MtR is pretty good and Chicken Little is not good.

AmityBoatTours 08-22-11 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10896306)
None of those are classics... Just crappy Disney movies that came out that happen to be getting 3D Releases.

Gizmo they are and always have been considered by disney studios to be officially part of the walt disney animated classics line.
Bolt was number 48, meet the robinsons was 47 and Chicken Little was 46

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AmityBoatTours 08-22-11 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 10896188)
Does not compute.

they have always been apart of walt disney pictures animated classics line, just as Dinosaur is part of it as well.

Gizmo 08-23-11 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AmityBoatTours (Post 10898001)
Gizmo they are and always have been considered by disney studios to be officially part of the walt disney animated classics line.
Bolt was number 48, meet the robinsons was 47 and Chicken Little was 46

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How can a 5 year old flick be a "classic" Or a 3...or a 2? They may be part of the ANIMATED line, but certainly not "classic". I apparently have a container of salsa that can be called "classic" if I go by Disney's standard. ;)

Travis McClain 08-23-11 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10898211)
How can a 5 year old flick be a "classic" Or a 3...or a 2? They may be part of the ANIMATED line, but certainly not "classic". I apparently have a container of salsa that can be called "classic" if I go by Disney's standard. ;)

They're Classics with a capital "C," and anyone who's going to keep up with Disney just has to accept this. But first, you really ought to keep up with your kitchen.

Gizmo 08-23-11 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MinLShaw (Post 10898216)
They're Classics with a capital "C," and anyone who's going to keep up with Disney just has to accept this. But first, you really ought to keep up with your kitchen.

No capital "C" in the Title of this thread ;)

But thankfully I don't like many of their animated titles so I'll gladly be skipping on these "classics".

The Monkees 08-23-11 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10898211)
How can a 5 year old flick be a "classic" Or a 3...or a 2? They may be part of the ANIMATED line, but certainly not "classic". I apparently have a container of salsa that can be called "classic" if I go by Disney's standard. ;)

When Lion King came out on VHS a year after it was in theaters it was a "Masterpiece" same with all the other Disney animated titles from around that time. (Classics or Masterpieces) it's just the name of the line of films.

AmityBoatTours 08-23-11 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 10898245)
No capital "C" in the Title of this thread ;)

But thankfully I don't like many of their animated titles so I'll gladly be skipping on these "classics".

They instituted it as the official name for their theatrical animated releases that were created by walt disney feature animation back when they started releasing animated titles that were not produced in house.
Back around the time Walt Disney Television animation began being used on features (under the name Disney Toon Studios), like Duck Tales The movie, and A Goofy movie, and of course with the Cheapquels which were being released theatrically (only over seas at first), as well as other releases not produced WDFA such as the countless pooh movies from the 90s and 00's (although the latest pooh movie is the 51st animated classic, as that was produced by WDFA)

the monkees is also correct about the Lion King being promoted as a masterpiece for its home video release along with a few other titles.


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