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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 10833569)
Dude, I've got Crohn's disease. I can't even go to the bathroom without the immediate fear that I'll discover I need medical attention. The most promising class of medications are being discovered as carcinogens and God-fearing Republicans want to halt the stem cell research that has the potential to make a difference in my quality of life. Whether Disney erases sex in the sky of The Lion King doesn't even exist on my continuum of concerns.
Other than "Morning Report," the tweaks cited are really things that probably should have been done originally and were overlooked. They don't affect the artistic merits of the film any more than digitally removing visible wires or reflections of off-set personnel and equipment. Speaking of money grabs, I look forward to you making good on your $20 bet. ;) |
Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by AmityBoatTours
(Post 10834505)
do you really want to go here buddy boy! i mean really?
Not only have i seen the movie in theatres durring its original theatrical run, I saw it at the El cap at the world premiere. The changes in animation that were done for dvd special edition have been undone for the 3D bluray release, it is the true theatrical cut. I like how YOU who havent seen the 3D version of the movie yet have the gull to tell me that ive never seen the original theatrical cut in theatres. Not only have i seen it but i owned the vhs, the laser disc, the dvd as well. and and i stand by what i said the movie looked great last monday night in 3D. I trust my own eyes more than i trust you or josh. And dont tell me i dont care about presentation, I was a union projectionist at the most famous theatre in the world for over a decade. Presentation is very important to me. I hope you're right about the IMAX changes being reversed. So just to clarify, I'm not talking about Morning Report. I'm talking about the Mufasa clouds and the aligators during I Just Can't Wait... Those have all been switched back to how they looked in 1994? That would be great. |
Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by AmityBoatTours
(Post 10834505)
Presentation is very important to me.
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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by Mabuse
(Post 10834570)
If the touch-ups, re-animation, and re-drawing have been reversed in the 3D version then that is great news and a step in the right direction...but it's still in 3D which is a massive alteration to a film that was never intended to be seen that way.
I hope you're right about the IMAX changes being reversed. So just to clarify, I'm not talking about Morning Report. I'm talking about the Mufasa clouds and the aligators during I Just Can't Wait... Those have all been switched back to how they looked in 1994? That would be great. anyways getting back to what i said no one is forecing you to watch it in 3D, you can watch it in 2D, you get both options so to me complaining about it in 3D is unnecessary, you have the choice not to watch it that way. |
Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by NoirFan
(Post 10834601)
Except when it comes to your posts.
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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by Mabuse
(Post 10834344)
I fail to see how anything you've said here is helpful to the discourse of this thread about Disney Animated Bluray plans. Take your concerns to the politics forum or better yet a different web site. This is the HD forum and we're talking about Disney BluRay. The discussion is going to go into the minutia of Disney to ensure we get the best quality presentation. That's just the nature of this place and you know it.
Frankly, people like you, the "I don't care" people, need to pipe down. If you don't care then say nothing. Those of us who DO CARE don't want our pleas to Disney to be shouted down by folks who, by their own admission, don't give a fuck. Who decides? One more thing: Don't accuse me of standing in the way of you getting what you want from a company that owes you nothing. I haven't directed any statement toward Disney calling for them to withhold from you the original composition. I have, however, failed in my feeble attempt to contextualize how important this issue really is. I do not speak for all fans, and neither do you. This kind of debate serves the purpose of helping to define the seriousness of the issue to fans of the film at large. What if someone decides that Bambi should have originally had more CGI missle launching fighter jets? |
Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by AmityBoatTours
(Post 10834621)
anyways getting back to what i said no one is forecing you to watch it in 3D, you can watch it in 2D, you get both options so to me complaining about it in 3D is unnecessary, you have the choice not to watch it that way. It's funny. You can tell 3D isn't the "be all end all". When Disney "spruced up" Lion King for IMAX they made all these "ideal changes". Ten years latter they remove all those changes and make new 3D changes. I'm sure in 10 more years when 3D is done they'll undo those changes. As long as we get the original film when the dust settles then I can't complain. |
Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by John Galt
(Post 10829475)
I just watched a Lion King preview on The Fox and the Hound Blu Ray....it looks incredible. I can't wait till the Fall.
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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
They have both available. Just make sure you order the right one.
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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by Disc-Flipper
(Post 10813751)
Maybe the classic "Winnie the Pooh" will come to Blu when its July 2011 sequel hits Blu sometime in the Fall?
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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by John Galt
(Post 10835447)
They have both available. Just make sure you order the right one.
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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 10833569)
Other than "Morning Report," the tweaks cited are really things that probably should have been done originally and were overlooked. They don't affect the artistic merits of the film any more than digitally removing visible wires or reflections of off-set personnel and equipment.
Who appointed you the arbiter who gets to decide that substantial changes to the artwork and animation of the movie "don't affect the artistic merits of the film," pray tell? |
Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by Josh Z
(Post 10838611)
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Mr. George Lucas to the DVDTalk forum. :rolleyes:
Who appointed you the arbiter who gets to decide that substantial changes to the artwork and animation of the movie "don't affect the artistic merits of the film," pray tell? Also, I was appointed by the bastion of film merits, Armond White. I cannot explain how this happened, any more than I can explain why I'm right and you're wrong. You're just going to have to defer to me and accept it. More seriously, though, I believe it's pretty solid and reasonable position to put forward that technical clean-ups are a different class of tweaks from story changes. "Morning Report" is the only story change cited thus far in this thread. Everything else amounts to a technical clean-up. If we were discussing a live action movie, most of these things wouldn't merit much more than, "Oh, they fixed that" reaction. It's a mistake to view animation as so different that its technical components are story components. |
Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by MinLShaw
(Post 10838727)
More seriously, though, I believe it's pretty solid and reasonable position to put forward that technical clean-ups are a different class of tweaks from story changes. "Morning Report" is the only story change cited thus far in this thread. Everything else amounts to a technical clean-up. If we were discussing a live action movie, most of these things wouldn't merit much more than, "Oh, they fixed that" reaction. It's a mistake to view animation as so different that its technical components are story components.
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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by Josh Z
(Post 10840488)
Re-drawing the characters and re-animating entire sequences from the movie are not "technical clean-ups." They're revisionism, just like replacing the original models and miniatures in Star Wars with CGI is revisionism.
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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by Josh Z
(Post 10840488)
Re-drawing the characters and re-animating entire sequences from the movie are not "technical clean-ups." They're revisionism, just like replacing the original models and miniatures in Star Wars with CGI is revisionism.
the only difference is that its been converted to 3D, and they did an excellent job at that. can we get back to what i intended this thread to be, and not bicker about this anymore, its obvious neither of you are going to change the other ones opinon, if i had known that posting my thoughts of the 3D screening of Lion King I went to was going to cause this back and fourth i would have just kept what i saw to myself, and to my friends. geesh you would think this was highdefdigest or something. |
Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
AmityBoatTours, I, for one, am glad you posted about the 3D screening and am looking forward to it myself.
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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Yeah, Amity. I'm glad you posted. It's great to hear that the changes made for IMAX have been undone. I just hope you're right. Thank you for posting.
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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
according to Dolby's website The Lion King has not only undergone the 3D process but the soundmix is now discrete 7.1 (as well as the bluray edition)
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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 10845273)
according to Dolby's website The Lion King has not only undergone the 3D process but the soundmix is now discrete 7.1 (as well as the bluray edition)
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Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
From Laughingplace.com. Not exactly "animated classics" but I'll probably upgrade my current versions.
Bolt, Meet the Robinsons, Chicken Little, G-Force Coming to 3D Blu-Ray Nov 8 (August 5, 2011) Leading the way in the advancement of 3D entertainment and continuing its commitment to the growing Blu-ray 3D™ market, The Walt Disney Studios today announced release plans to add four new titles to its growing in-home Blu-ray 3D line-up. Among the popular films making their Blu-ray 3D debuts are Bolt, Chicken Little,G-Force and Meet The Robinsons, all releasing on November 8th. The four new Disney Blu-ray 3D releases have been packaged as Disney Blu-ray Combo Packs, satisfying the multitude of viewing habits across the household whether it’s 3D, 2D, Blu-ray, DVD and/or mobile devices. “In early January, Disney announced an aggressive plan to bring a wide variety of 3D content to consumers’ in-home experiences,” commented Lori MacPherson, Executive Vice President, Global Product Management, The Walt Disney Studios. “These latest Disney Blu-ray 3D releases all deliver the most superior in-home 3D viewing capabilities, and by offering the films in Combo Packs, we are continuing to provide families with exceptional value, quality, and versatility in a single purchase.” Bolt, Chicken Little, G-Force and Meet The Robinsons, will all join the studios unparalleled catalog of 3D in-home movies which include Tim Burton’s The Nightmare Before Christmas (releasing August 30, 2011), The Lion King: Diamond Edition (releasing October 4, 2011), Beauty and the Beast (releasing October 4, 2011), Pirates Of The Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (releasing October 18, 2011), Gnomeo & Juliet (released May 24, 2011), TRON: Legacy(released April 5, 2011), Tangled (released March 29, 2011), Tim Burton’s Alice In Wonderland (released December 7, 2010), Step Up 3D (released December 21, 1010), and Disney’s A Christmas Carol (released November 16, 2010). |
Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by NiCK Crush
(Post 10830340)
how did you get The Fox and The Hound?
Originally Posted by John Galt
(Post 10830584)
Disney Movie Club. They're selling it 2 months ahead of the street date.
FYI, it's in a DVD sized case with a two disc swing arm for the extra discs. |
Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by Roybq
(Post 10880528)
From Laughingplace.com. Not exactly "animated classics" but I'll probably upgrade my current versions.
Bolt, Meet the Robinsons, Chicken Little, G-Force Coming to 3D Blu-Ray Nov 8 (August 5, 2011) Leading the way in the advancement of 3D entertainment and continuing its commitment to the growing Blu-ray 3D™ market, The Walt Disney Studios today announced release plans to add four new titles to its growing in-home Blu-ray 3D line-up. Among the popular films making their Blu-ray 3D debuts are Bolt, Chicken Little,G-Force and Meet The Robinsons, all releasing on November 8th. The four new Disney Blu-ray 3D releases have been packaged as Disney Blu-ray Combo Packs, satisfying the multitude of viewing habits across the household whether it’s 3D, 2D, Blu-ray, DVD and/or mobile devices. “In early January, Disney announced an aggressive plan to bring a wide variety of 3D content to consumers’ in-home experiences,” commented Lori MacPherson, Executive Vice President, Global Product Management, The Walt Disney Studios. “These latest Disney Blu-ray 3D releases all deliver the most superior in-home 3D viewing capabilities, and by offering the films in Combo Packs, we are continuing to provide families with exceptional value, quality, and versatility in a single purchase.” Bolt, Chicken Little, G-Force and Meet The Robinsons, will all join the studios unparalleled catalog of 3D in-home movies which include Tim Burton’s The Nightmare Before Christmas (releasing August 30, 2011), The Lion King: Diamond Edition (releasing October 4, 2011), Beauty and the Beast (releasing October 4, 2011), Pirates Of The Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (releasing October 18, 2011), Gnomeo & Juliet (released May 24, 2011), TRON: Legacy(released April 5, 2011), Tangled (released March 29, 2011), Tim Burton’s Alice In Wonderland (released December 7, 2010), Step Up 3D (released December 21, 1010), and Disney’s A Christmas Carol (released November 16, 2010). Actually Bolt, Meet the Robinsons, and Chicken Little are apart of the animated classics line. thanks for posting this on the animated classics thread. i was wondering when we would finally see 3D blu releases of Meet the Robinsons and Chicken Little. I allready have the sony 3D blu exclusive of Bolt. |
Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by milo bloom
(Post 10881098)
I thought I was going nuts. I found a used copy of this a week or so ago at Half Price Books, and then I start seeing it in the ads for release next Tuesday so I was thinking it was just a re-release. Weird that someone would get it as an exclusive and then sell it off so quickly.
FYI, it's in a DVD sized case with a two disc swing arm for the extra discs. |
Re: Walt Disney Animated classics 2011 Bluray plans
Originally Posted by milo bloom
(Post 10881098)
FYI, it's in a DVD sized case with a two disc swing arm for the extra discs.
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