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Mike86 05-18-17 12:56 PM

Re: Star Wars
 
I'll be honest I don't like the Greedo shooting first scene but it's never been one of my most hated changes. The main reason I don't like it is because it looks bad like others have mentioned. It feels like a change that doesn't work because of how it was shot but Lucas keeps on trying to make it work by constantly changing it.

Honestly a lot of the changes I dislike most are from Return of the Jedi. The dumbass Jedi rocks song at Jabba's palace, the Vader "noooooo", Hayden Force ghost. Also from the first film I think I dislike the Jabba and Han scene most. It looks shitty and is also pretty pointless and ruins Jabba's introduction in my opinion. A lot of the other changes are things I don't hate but they just don't add anything like all the extra stuff during the Mos Eisley scenes. There's so many little things that aren't the most annoying but just make me wonder why Lucas thinks they're necessary or improve the film.

DVD Josh 05-18-17 03:58 PM

Re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 13076047)
Two things, first I get what Lucas was trying to do with the character which I'm not opposed to it's just the fact that...



Second, it's been 20 years already(holy shitballs!) and I've been beaten into submission. I just don't care about this change anymore. There are far worse things that need to be rectified like Jabba, Anakin, ROTJ's ending, etc.

I never felt all that strong about changes to ROTJ because I never really thought the movie was all that strong to begin with outside of a few key scenes. Pretty much once they leave Jabba's palace and the ensuing Sarlaac pit scene, I tune out until the famous last battle scene with Vader, Luke and EP. The shit on Endor is terrible. By the time they change the force ghosts the movie lost me so much that I don't really care.

Ranger 05-25-17 08:42 AM

Re: Star Wars
 
If the OT SE was remastered in 4K, you holdouts still wouldn't buy it?

Josh Z 05-25-17 09:08 AM

Re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Ranger (Post 13081108)
If the OT SE was remastered in 4K, you holdouts still wouldn't buy it?

Speaking only for myself, no, I wouldn't buy that.

E Unit 05-25-17 09:19 AM

Re: Star Wars
 
I may if the price is right.

jjcool 05-25-17 11:43 AM

Re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Ranger (Post 13081108)
If the OT SE was remastered in 4K, you holdouts still wouldn't buy it?

So, not the Original Trilogy? No. I wouldn't buy it. I still don't have the blue ray releases of any of the Star Wars films.

Mike86 05-25-17 12:04 PM

Re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Ranger (Post 13081108)
If the OT SE was remastered in 4K, you holdouts still wouldn't buy it?

Even if I had a 4K TV and player I wouldn't. I'd like something better quality than my 2004 DVD set but it's not happening unless the option to have the original Original Trilogy is there. I've held out almost six years since the Blu-ray release as is.

hanshotfirst1138 05-25-17 12:30 PM

Re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Ranger (Post 13081108)
If the OT SE was remastered in 4K, you holdouts still wouldn't buy it?

Certainly not. I'm only interested in the original cuts. That's it. Full stop. I have no interest on paying for any other Star Wars stuff until they come out, which as we've seen, will be right around the time Richard Dawkins starts preaching Christianity.

Trevor 05-25-17 12:50 PM

Re: Star Wars
 
I have the original cuts (or close enough I guess, can't keep track) on VHS and those non-anamorphic DVDs. I bought the big BD set (used and pretty cheap) for the extras.

GuessWho 05-26-17 04:23 PM

Re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Timber (Post 13075897)
Yes but with the changes to the end of Jedi it screws up the viewing of the entire saga as a whole. Why would old Obi wan be there with you Anakin? Don't give me that crap about Jedi Anakin dying when he was young cause "Anakin" came back when he killed Palpatine. So either both are young or both appear as they do when they died.

Technically, Anakin shouldn't be a Force ghost at all--young or old.

It was fine when the OT was all that existed. It was assumed this is simply what happened to all Jedi when they died.
BUT, the PT said this is not what automatically happens--this is a learned skill.

Qui-Gon partially (voice only) discovered the trick and taught it to Yoda, who we have to assume perfected it (visible blue ghost).
Obi-Wan learned it from Yoda during his Tatooine exile.

When did Vader learn it?


(Or hell, maybe Luke makes Jedi ghosts. All three blue ghosts are people that died while in the same room as Luke. Whiny jinx.) ;)

stvn1974 05-26-17 04:39 PM

Re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Ranger (Post 13081108)
If the OT SE was remastered in 4K, you holdouts still wouldn't buy it?

I will take VHS dub quality of Han only shooting and no "No, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" over a shiny 4K mastering of the special editions.

rocket1312 05-26-17 07:25 PM

Re: Star Wars
 
I don't own the dvds and I don't own the blu-rays, so I can't imagine I'd buy 4k releases either.

mrhan 05-26-17 07:56 PM

Re: Star Wars
 
I own the DVDs and Despecialized Editions. I'm done unless they release "Star Wars" and I'm not talking about "A New Hope". I want the one I saw in 1977.

The Valeyard 05-27-17 12:22 PM

Re: Star Wars
 
Original Cuts or nothing.

E Unit 05-27-17 01:56 PM

Re: Star Wars
 
Yep, that's worked so far.

mewmartigan 05-27-17 05:59 PM

Re: Star Wars
 
I only own the non-anamorphic dvds. I really hate a lot of the changes and they pull me right out of the movie when they come.....or worse, I mentally note "oh, in about a minute here comes something stupid".

davidh777 07-21-17 11:24 AM

Re: Star Wars
 
I got the original six films using Xbox credits, and now they're appearing in my VUDU library so they must've been added to Disney Movies Anywhere. However, they don't include the Fox film, A New Hope, which is annoying. :lol:

Ranger 12-26-17 12:05 PM

Re: Star Wars
 
Project 4K 77 says they are almost done. Maybe around the end of Jan. That will be exciting to check out.

Any updates from Harmy?

rjh_54 12-26-17 02:04 PM

Re: Star Wars
 
So from what I'm gathering here many of the home video releases for these films have their shortcomings.

I'm finally getting around to purchasing the series on disc. I ordered a used copy of the 2008 trilogy for Episodes IV - VI. I don't know much about the home video releases for these films but the price was dirt cheap (at least for that set) and I wanted the theatrical cuts.

What is the recommended / go-to Blu-Ray set for these films? I saw the Trilogy Blu sets in the store the other day (the 6 disc combo packs) but looking at the package it seemed pretty barebones in terms of bonuses, save for some commentaries. I know there were also two Trilogy sets released in 2011 but I don't know much about those. Reading Amazon reviews doesn't seem to help since they (stupidly) combine reviews for the DVD set(s) and multiple different Blu-Ray sets.

I've also seen The Complete Saga set (with Darth Vader on the front) so I was considering that. Am I correct in assuming the only difference between that one and the 2011 release is the packaging?

Jay G. 12-26-17 02:20 PM

Re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by rjh_54 (Post 13233322)
What is the recommended / go-to Blu-Ray set for these films?

The "Complete Saga" sets are the ones to go with if you want extras. Either the Young Anakin or the Vader cover; they're exactly the same discs.

The individual movie discs or trilogy sets are just the respective movie discs from the "Complete Saga", minus the bonus discs.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_(Blu-ray)
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_...aga_in_Blu-ray

milo bloom 12-26-17 02:21 PM

Re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by rjh_54 (Post 13233322)
So from what I'm gathering here many of the home video releases for these films have their shortcomings.

I'm finally getting around to purchasing the series on disc. I ordered a used copy of the 2008 trilogy for Episodes IV - VI. I don't know much about the home video releases for these films but the price was dirt cheap (at least for that set) and I wanted the theatrical cuts.

What is the recommended / go-to Blu-Ray set for these films? I saw the Trilogy Blu sets in the store the other day (the 6 disc combo packs) but looking at the package it seemed pretty barebones in terms of bonuses, save for some commentaries. I know there were also two Trilogy sets released in 2011 but I don't know much about those. Reading Amazon reviews doesn't seem to help since they (stupidly) combine reviews for the DVD set(s) and multiple different Blu-Ray sets.

I've also seen The Complete Saga set (with Darth Vader on the front) so I was considering that. Am I correct in assuming the only difference between that one and the 2011 release is the packaging?

The 9 disc set has been released as a digibook and in a plastic case. I'm 99% sure the extras are the same. It's 3 discs worth, and they're only in the 9 disc set. The trilogy sets only have the movie discs (which should have commentaries). The single disc Steelbook releases should be the same as all the other discs.

I've got the 9 disc digipack and it's got some decent extras, but it's missing the Empire of Dreams docu from the 4 disc DVD set.

Rypro 525 12-26-17 02:35 PM

Re: Star Wars
 
they're expensive as shit, but if your a purist, and don't mind non anamorphic versions of the unaltered trilogy. Look for the "limited edition" dvds. get em used too
A New Hope https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Epi...imited+edition
Empire Strikes Back https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Emp...imited+edition
Return of the Jedi https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Epi...4320250&sr=8-6

Nick Danger 12-26-17 02:52 PM

Re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by The Valeyard (Post 13082833)
Original Cuts or nothing.

I've waited so long that I don't care anymore. I won't be buying Star Wars on home video.

fumanstan 12-26-17 03:11 PM

Re: Star Wars
 
I bought The Complete Saga when it came out, I'd probably buy it again in UHD when it comes out in that format, although I guess it depends if I cave in and buy UHD versions of any of the newer movies when they're released.

GoldenJCJ 12-26-17 03:43 PM

Re: Star Wars
 

Originally Posted by Nick Danger (Post 13233343)
I've waited so long that I don't care anymore. I won't be buying Star Wars on home video.

Same here. Until it’s released on blu-ray or 4K, I just don’t care enough. Fuck that nonanamorphic dvd shit. We’re almost in 2018. That crap may have flown 10+ years ago but I wouldn’t spend a dime on that bullshit today.


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