Pinocchio blu-ray has black bars on side whether the DVD version doesn't. Why?
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Pinocchio blu-ray has black bars on side whether the DVD version doesn't. Why?
The new Pinocchio blu-ray has black bars on the side and the DVD version which is included with the blu-ray set, fells up the entire screen. Why is this?
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Re: Pinocchio blu-ray has black bars on side whether the DVD version doesn't. Why?
....Pinocchio is a 4:3 film. It should be that way. It wasn't a widescreen film. that's the only way it should be viewed.
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I think he has a point. He isn't arguing that the Blu-ray has the wrong aspect ratio, he is actually wondering why would Disney include a DVD in the package that doesn't have the correct aspect ratio that even the BD that was packed together has. I haven't seen the DVD, so I don't know if the OP's claim is true.
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Re: Pinocchio blu-ray has black bars on side whether the DVD version doesn't. Why?
Unless your settings are futzed, I'm unaware on the DVD being in anything other than 1.33:1
Maybe the DVD it also as a option for the "Disney View" -- which was on the BD. It's a selectable option where art and background cards fill the negative space outside the 1.33:1 image.
Maybe the DVD it also as a option for the "Disney View" -- which was on the BD. It's a selectable option where art and background cards fill the negative space outside the 1.33:1 image.
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The Blu-ray is pillarboxed with black bars hard-coded on the sides of the 16:9 frame. The DVD is 4:3 inherently. The o/p undoubtedly has his DVD player and/or TV set to stretch the 4:3 picture sideways.
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Re: Pinocchio blu-ray has black bars on side whether the DVD version doesn't. Why?
I have that same "problem" and it's because I have my HDTV set to fill the entire screen on my DirecTV because my wife gets bothered by bars on all 4 sides and it does that on 1.33:1 DVDs but Blu-Ray shows up in the correct OAR. I just haven't upgraded to HD programming yet. I guess I need to call and do that today
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I have mine HDTV set to just scan so if will use the aspect ratio set on the DVD. I too get annoyed when the image is streched, I'm amazed at people who can't tell the difference.
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Either that, or maybe he's using the "Disney view" on the BD that fills in the blank space with artwork. Obviously the DVD doesn't have that as it is native 4:3.
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How someone could look at these two images and not notice that there's something wrong with the bottom one is astounding to many of us, but it does happen.
I once had to sit through a whole screening of Pirates of the Caribbean like the following when some friends bought a new plasma and didn't bother to set their DVD player for a 16:9 TV.
They didn't notice that anything was wrong. When I fixed it for them afterwards and restored the proper picture geometry, they told me that they couldn't tell the difference.
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Some of the responses here are why casual folks never end up learning. Explanations like Josh Z is far better then the eyerolling. Sheesh.
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I often wonder about the average intelligence of people who can't see the difference, in all honestly. It's like there is something wrong with their capacity to process what they are seeing so I wonder if there are other things wrong with the functionality of their brain.
I think the worst example of this is the Comcast tech who hooked up my TV service. He had to come back because my DVR wasn't working right. They gave me the RGB cables for the high def channels, but on standard def channels the picture quality was just horrid. When he came back out I asked him why the standard def channels looked so horrid (color bars would roll across the screen and a changing hue of colors was constant on the very bottom of the screen, not to mention all the colors were washed out and it sucked) and he claimed that's just the way they are broadcast and that's how it looks on his TV, too.
After he left I looked at the back of the DVR and noted the HDMI output, got an HDMI cable and it was night and day difference on the standard def channels. It cleared up the image considerably and made all the colors much more vibrant.
I couldn't help to wonder about the tech who sits at home and convinces himself this is just the way it's broadcast and is too stupid to answer a customer's question about the picture quality. And it wasn't like I was paying them for the RGB cables they provided me. If a tech can't see the difference when he's installing this stuff or accepts the crappy image quality for what it is then that's pretty pathetic. It's one thing for some family somewhere to accept their crap as it is, but for a tech to say stuff like that just floored me.
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Re: Pinocchio blu-ray has black bars on side whether the DVD version doesn't. Why?
I don't see why so many of you are surprised. I venture a guess that at least 90% of the population who buys/sells/reads about/looks at any kind of HDTV, BD, or any high-tech A/V hardware or software have absolutely no clue at all. Be it buying, setting up, or selling, most people are just ignorant.
If you don't believe me, go to a Best Buy. Listen to their 'Home Theater Specialists' and their customers have a conversation. Its some of the stupidest stuff you will ever hear come out of anyone's mouth(on either side).
The problem lies in the fact that the overwhelming majority of people who take on the responsibility about educating the public about High Definition TV and all its parts are just plain stupid. Therefore, the stupid-i-city trickles down to everyone they come into contact with.
Its sad, really.
If you don't believe me, go to a Best Buy. Listen to their 'Home Theater Specialists' and their customers have a conversation. Its some of the stupidest stuff you will ever hear come out of anyone's mouth(on either side).
The problem lies in the fact that the overwhelming majority of people who take on the responsibility about educating the public about High Definition TV and all its parts are just plain stupid. Therefore, the stupid-i-city trickles down to everyone they come into contact with.
Its sad, really.
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I also love it when somebody is convinced...absolutely convinced...that DVD upconverted is the same quality as a Blu-Ray. I just wonder if they think everybody who buys Blu-Ray are the morons of the world and they are special because they figured out a little secret or something.
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Re: Pinocchio blu-ray has black bars on side whether the DVD version doesn't. Why?
I also love it when somebody is convinced...absolutely convinced...that DVD upconverted is the same quality as a Blu-Ray. I just wonder if they think everybody who buys Blu-Ray are the morons of the world and they are special because they figured out a little secret or something.
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I also love it when somebody is convinced...absolutely convinced...that DVD upconverted is the same quality as a Blu-Ray. I just wonder if they think everybody who buys Blu-Ray are the morons of the world and they are special because they figured out a little secret or something.
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I often wonder about the average intelligence of people who can't see the difference, in all honestly. It's like there is something wrong with their capacity to process what they are seeing so I wonder if there are other things wrong with the functionality of their brain.
Albert Einstein supposedly had pretty bad taste in movies. He liked them the dumber the better. He had enough to think about in every other part of his life, and didn't want to think when he watched a movie.
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