Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
05-13-11 | 09:44 PM
#26
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
Of course, there's always going to be progressively better transfering/mastering technology, so there's the question of how long an HD transfer is good for. Studios are doing 4K transfers now for downconverting to HD, but in 10 years will we be complaining on how some new releases are using a 4K transfer "from a decade ago"?
05-14-11 | 03:23 PM
#27
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
Well, there's always the other markets for HD video, such as broadcast and online streaming. These markets are going to grow.
Of course, there's always going to be progressively better transfering/mastering technology, so there's the question of how long an HD transfer is good for. Studios are doing 4K transfers now for downconverting to HD, but in 10 years will we be complaining on how some new releases are using a 4K transfer "from a decade ago"?
Of course, there's always going to be progressively better transfering/mastering technology, so there's the question of how long an HD transfer is good for. Studios are doing 4K transfers now for downconverting to HD, but in 10 years will we be complaining on how some new releases are using a 4K transfer "from a decade ago"?
Few people are willing to get their feet wet and spend a lot of money on a technology that will be obsolete overnight and yet if no one buys it, it won't succeed in the marketplace.
Movie collections are carefully assembled over several years so people have much more of an emotional investment over their disc collection than a one-time purchase like the latest upgrade of their iPad, laptop or cellphone.
05-14-11 | 08:22 PM
#28
Banned
Re: Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
The worst blu-ray that I've ever seen is Secret Of Nimh. The colours are fine. The grain is fine. The brightness is fine. But there seems to be a "grid" over the entire picture. Sort of like watching the movie through a fine screen. I don't remember the VHS looking like this. Or when I've ever seen it on tv. I think it all depends on how successful the movie was when it was released.
05-15-11 | 09:55 AM
#29
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
I was very disappointed when I upgraded Total Recall and found the quality no better than the SD. Overall the BR offers an upgrade just some are less than others
05-15-11 | 09:59 AM
#30
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
Dreamscape is definitely the worst Blu-ray I've watched, transfer-wise. Most of the time, I couldn't even tell I wasn't watched my old DVD.
05-15-11 | 10:04 AM
#31
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
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Shittiest sound: Birdemic
Shittiest video: Birdemic
Triple Whammy!
05-15-11 | 02:36 PM
#32
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
T2 looked much better with a nice crisp picture but Total Recall basically looked the same as the DVD and came with less extras.
Not really worth the upgrade especially when you can't get rid of the DVD because of the extras and the extended version of T2 which aren't on Blu.
05-15-11 | 02:47 PM
#33
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
99% of the HD transfers created before 2006/2007 are obsolete and should not be released on Blu-ray, but studios are being tighter than ever and using any HD master possible in some instances. We are now seeing the budget distributors like Mill Creek and Echo Bridge using very poor masters intended for cable broadcast on their Blu-rays.
05-15-11 | 04:07 PM
#34
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
Someone more knowledgeable than me should start a thread listing BDs that are significantly worse in PQ than their DVD counterparts. Hoosiers is another title, for instance, that looks way worse in Blu than in DVD.
05-15-11 | 04:28 PM
#35
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
Although in some cases the benefit is more subtle, the only one that comes to mind which is actually worse is The French Connection, due to the color process Friedkin used on it.
DVD Beaver has a Hoosiers review, and I don't see how the BD isn't an improvement, although it does look washed out. I think if you adjusted your black level for this title it would be better than the DVD.
DVD Beaver has a Hoosiers review, and I don't see how the BD isn't an improvement, although it does look washed out. I think if you adjusted your black level for this title it would be better than the DVD.
05-15-11 | 06:21 PM
#36
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
The 1.85:1 transfer (encoded with MPEG 2 at 21 Mbps on a single layer disc) is a disappointment. A heavy layer of grain mars many scenes, depth and detail are lacking, and colors can be rather muted at times (only the gold uniforms of the Huskers have any real snap). You'd expect a next-gen transfer to, for lack of a better phrase, enhance the good and reduce the bad, but this particular transfer appears to simply exacerbate the flaws in the source elements. The video improves in the latter half of the film, especially during the game sequences (watch closely and you can actually see a spider crawling on the woodwork behind Hopper right before Hackman receives his first ejection), but by that point it's too little, too late.
05-17-11 | 03:35 PM
#37
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Blu-ray video quality lacking quality?
Although in some cases the benefit is more subtle, the only one that comes to mind which is actually worse is The French Connection, due to the color process Friedkin used on it.
DVD Beaver has a Hoosiers review, and I don't see how the BD isn't an improvement, although it does look washed out. I think if you adjusted your black level for this title it would be better than the DVD.
DVD Beaver has a Hoosiers review, and I don't see how the BD isn't an improvement, although it does look washed out. I think if you adjusted your black level for this title it would be better than the DVD.
The price was only $7.99, so I picked it up.
I can tell an improvement in color and clarity, so I am happy with the purchase.
The film was shot with lots of grain, to give it an old feel to it - which I like.
Most BRs I will hold off buying until I read a great review on it, Hoosiers is never going to look any better than it does on BR and that's OK with me.
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Most studios are not going to invest a ton of money in a movie that is old and not going to sell on boat of disks.
But, I do love Disney for taking the time and dollars to fix up their movies before they release them on BR. Beauty and the Beast is my DEMO disk for BR, the quality is WAY better than the original DVD. I will double dip for those titles that I love and that the movie studios put some real effort into them.
