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Rypro 525 03-09-10 02:14 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10039933)
Yeah, why did they do that?



I read that the shortened cut reduces Part One to 60 minutes and Part Two to 80 minutes.

christ. It would seem like half/most of the movie is all battle scenes, and everything else gets cut out. I mean the battle scene at the end of pt 2 is 40 minutes long. I'd be interested to see a detailed comparison as to what got cut. I also heard that the US version littereally starts with the first battle, cutting out the opening 10 minutes

bunkaroo 03-09-10 04:04 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 
I have both the HK and UK versions but haven't even watched them yet LOL. I know I won't be giving those assholes at Magnolia any more of my $ after the LTROI debacle.

I'm just waiting to find some time to watch them. Upon a cursory comparison the PQ seemed like a wash. Audio seemed the same but maybe a tad better on the HK. I'm just trying to find if my part 1 HK has the watermark - I'd tried forwarding in to see if it was there but never saw it. Probably have to watch in real-time to see it I guess.

PhantomStranger 03-09-10 06:26 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 

Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 10039364)
However, isn't there a fair chance it will more or less match it? I would imagine they'll be encoding from the same source DI.

If the US version uses the same source and features no cuts or watermarking, a reasonable compression and removable subtitles, it'll be the one for me.

Possibly, but Magnolia has become a sub-par Blu-ray distributor. Their typical standard level of quality, if applied to Red Cliff, is unlikely to match the U.K. edition.

Rypro 525 03-09-10 07:52 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 
didn't magnolia also fuck up Ong Bak 1?

RocShemp 03-09-10 09:23 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 
Hmm. I'm anticipating a cancelation in the near future...

doctorthodt 03-09-10 10:17 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 

Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 10041249)
didn't magnolia also fuck up Ong Bak 1?

Ong Bak was Fox. Magnolia did Ong Bak 2.

Magnolia's pretty decent on the whole, and they have an awesome library of films that I'm very thankful have gotten Blu-Ray releases at all. I'm sure their Red Cliff release will be perfectly serviceable.

Giles 03-09-10 11:42 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 

Originally Posted by trespoochies (Post 10040493)
I spent $30 for the HK release of Ip Man - and it's been worth every penny. Great picture and 7.1 audio to boot.

I still have to watch thsi since it's in my 'to watch' stack

I hope the audio downmixes to 6.1 since 'The Warlords' bluray does.

I'm still on the fence on whether or not to purchase the Magnolia BR edition, since I have Part II on blu but not Part 1 (only on DVD)

RocShemp 03-10-10 12:38 AM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 

Originally Posted by doctorthodt (Post 10041511)
Ong Bak was Fox. Magnolia did Ong Bak 2.

Magnolia's pretty decent on the whole, and they have an awesome library of films that I'm very thankful have gotten Blu-Ray releases at all. I'm sure their Red Cliff release will be perfectly serviceable.

"Serviceable" does not fill me with much hope. I hope they simply port over the HK release (A/V, subs, and whatever extras), slap a Magnolia logo on the disc startup, and call it a night.

jjcool 03-10-10 04:12 PM

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I am really looking forward to this movie. I had preordered the US international release, but ordered the UK one anyway, since it was less than the US price. I will probably end up cancelling my preorder, unless some new report comes inthat the US disc is going to be better than the UK one.

whotony 03-20-10 12:27 AM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 
I have a copy of parts 1 and 2 ur version to watch this weekend, BBV will have the blu-rays for rent next week.

truelies 03-20-10 02:41 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 

Originally Posted by jjcool (Post 10042944)
I am really looking forward to this movie. I had preordered the US international release, but ordered the UK one anyway, since it was less than the US price. I will probably end up cancelling my preorder, unless some new report comes inthat the US disc is going to be better than the UK one.

I UK one is out of order for international. The "in stock" means only for UK. I am wondering if the US one is same as UK, since the publisher of the US has a bad reputation.

RocShemp 03-20-10 09:12 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 
Other than effing up the subtitles of Let The Right One In (a mistake they'd be crazy to repeat) what else did they do wrong?

I don't get why they don't simply port over the HK release and slap a Magnolia logo on it.

truelies 03-20-10 09:16 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10060750)
Other than effing up the subtitles of Let The Right One In (a mistake they'd be crazy to repeat) what else did they do wrong?

I don't get why they don't simply port over the HK release and slap a Magnolia logo on it.

I agree, they should just port HK release for all the HK blu ray. It's no reason to make a new one and delete something.

RocShemp 03-21-10 02:11 AM

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Anyone able to find any reviews for the Magnolia release? The date is fast approaching and I want to know if I should keep or cancel my order.

Doctorossi 03-21-10 12:28 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 
DVDBeaver has a comparison up (US release vs. Mei Ah).

Solid Snake 03-21-10 12:37 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 
Yeah, just saw that. Seems like Magnet did a good job? Anyone disagree on that? Also...does the international cut Blu have all the features that the Theatrical has. For some reason I've been unable to find details on that up on heres on the internet.

truelies 03-21-10 12:44 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 

Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 10061532)
DVDBeaver has a comparison up (US release vs. Mei Ah).

Looks like this time the US edition did good.

truelies 03-21-10 12:45 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 10061546)
Yeah, just saw that. Seems like Magnet did a good job? Anyone disagree on that? Also...does the international cut Blu have all the features that the Theatrical has. For some reason I've been unable to find details on that up on heres on the internet.

Just buy the international edition, theatrical one cut a 288 mins. movie to 148. I don't think it's reasonable.

Solid Snake 03-21-10 12:50 PM

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I know the Theatrical was cut down but...does the international cut have all the features? That's the game changer for me. Regardless I'm getting the International...but I'll get the Theatrical cut too if I need to have my features due to the International NOT having them.

truelies 03-21-10 01:50 PM

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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Red+Clif...st=red%20cliff

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Red+Clif...st=red%20cliff

Very confused about how many international editions released this time? BTW, I got the $25.49 one from Amazon.

doctorthodt 03-21-10 02:08 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 

Originally Posted by truelies (Post 10061657)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Red+Clif...st=red%20cliff

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Red+Clif...st=red%20cliff

Very confused about how many international editions released this time? BTW, I got the $25.49 one from Amazon.

It's simple. There are three: Part I, Part II, and a bundle that includes both. The one you ordered on Amazon includes both. The ones you linked from Best Buy are the individual ones.

RocShemp 03-21-10 05:23 PM

Re: Red Cliff Blu ray which edition?
 
A member over at Blu-ray.com was kind enough to provide me with the following:


Originally Posted by AnimeOnBlu (Post 3055354)
DVDBeaver has shots of the Magnolia version of the International cut on their site. I assume the longer cut by Magnolia looks about the same.

If the International Cut looks just as good, it's a keeper.

doctorthodt 03-21-10 08:39 PM

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The longer cut IS the international cut. What Beaver posted was caps from the theatrical cut.

RocShemp 03-21-10 10:04 PM

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I know that. That's why I said "if the International Cut looks just as good, it's a keeper." In other words, if the US release of the longer international cut looks as good as the BD release of the US shortened theatrical cut, it's a keeper.

Giles 03-21-10 11:01 PM

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Extras:

• The Making of Red Cliff: The Long Road – in SD (145:45)

"whoah"!


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