I have two judder related questions, hopefully it will help me decide if I should keep my samsung lcd (b550) or exchange for it for a plasma (panasonic 42u1):

At the 6:40 mark in The Descent, the camera is filming across the treetops in the mountains following the car.

On my lcd the trees look awful, the worst example of this judder effect I've seen.

So:

1. Is this noticeable on a plasma display, maybe confirming the judder is inherent in the film?
2. Or is this simply a consequence of my 60hz tv?

Thanks!

I'm not even sure what jutting is exactly, but I just checked and I don't notice anything out of the ordinary on my plasma. The trees look fine to me. I'm no videophile though.
The shot I believe you are talking about is at 8:05 and lasts for about 5 seconds.

FYI, there is two versions of this film. One if MPEG2 and the other VC1. Do you happen to know what version you have?

The part I'm talking about starts at 6:40, fast across the trees for about 10 seconds. The car is in focus, but the trees look terrible.

The part at 8:05 looks fine.

Not sure, anyway to tell? Mine is a rental, upc#0031398205937.

Ok, yeah I see what you are talking about. They do look bad on plasma too.

Thank you for your reply.

There's this huge thread over at AVS about the different versions.



http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hlight=descent

so if i were to purchase this from amazon which version would i get? has the bad version been phased out?

Probably not, it's the other way around. The first pressings were the better encode (AVC) then at some point Lionsgate switched to a different encode (MPEG) that wasn't as sharp as the original.

wait..I've never heard of this. Now i'm scared as to which encode I have. It looks damn good as far as I can tell. How do I tell?

Your player or a blu-ray drive can tell you what encode you have.

ah shit...I forgot it does this. *checking*

Only a few BD players tell you what encode it is.

ah shit..I have the MPEG-2. Titty fucking Christ! Fucking shit bastards!

VC1 is impossible to find.

Of course, I have mine I bought in 2006

Yikes. That's the same UPC as my copy. Oh well, guess I'm stuck with the MPEG2.

It looked fine the last time I watched it, then again my LCD is only a 32".