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Old 11-15-09, 03:27 PM
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My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

So I spent alot of money and bought my parents a BR player for Chrismas. She loves the oldeies, GWTW, Ben Hur, etc. My mom saw Snow White on my BR and hated the 4:3 aspect and asked why does it not cover the whole screen.

Is there anyway around this? I just know she will not be happy watching all here old movies in Hi Def if it is going to have the black bars at the side.
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re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

Her TV almost certainly has some sort of 'Zoom' or 'Stretch' feature. She can either take that 1.37:1 frame and crop it to 1.78:1 or just squash it to fill the screen. (Of course, watching the movie instead of the black bars would be the best solution. )
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

Just tell her to get used to it. Sounds harsh, but I promise, once you've seen four or five movies with the bars, you just reflexively start to tune them out.
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

My mom hates black bars
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

Originally Posted by droidguy1119
Just tell her to get used to it. Sounds harsh, but I promise, once you've seen four or five movies with the bars, you just reflexively start to tune them out.
There are some people who just never get it, for whatever reason. His mom may be that way. I've tried to show my wife's mom for years what she's missing to no avail. Hard to fathom for those of us at this site.
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

I have no problem with them, In fact I love a movie with a crisp 2:35:1 or 2:40:1 aspect ratio. Looks more "filmic". Plus you can't really get rid of them with out making the image look funky.
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

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damnit, u beat me to it! haha
Old 11-15-09, 04:21 PM
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

Actually there is something you can do. Sell your Blu-ray player, and discs on ebay...then buy this:



and one of these:

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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

Just......educate her.
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

have you told that that's the way they made them back in the day and in the case of widescreen now today too?
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

At least on Snow White you could enable the artwork on the sides.
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

Tell her..that porn is better in widescreen
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

Wow, I didn't realize that this was still a problem.
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

A little old school, but have you showed her comparisons that show why there are black bars? Show her how much gets chopped off when it's "fills up the TV screen"?
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

Yeah I'm pretty sure the Disney Blu-rays that are 4:3 have a feature that fills in the black bars with artwork of some sort. With the other films, tell her she's SOL.
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

Tell your mom they are not 'black bars', they are unused portions of the screen. If she wants an HDTV, she better get used to it for a lot of the television programming she watches. Also tell her 'widescreen' does also not equal 'full screen', because a majority of Hollywood films are not the perfect 16x9 that would fill up a screen.

Then try basic logic. Give her something that's the shape of a square, perhaps a potholder or anything laying around the house, then tell her to make it into a rectangle. Make her think about how that would distort that square, and tell her that's what she'll be doing to the image.

If she still just wants a full screen regardless, then I would give up.
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

Get her a projector.

Or put curtains on the TV and only open them to the aspect ratio and tell her that's what it's like in the theater.
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

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Make her think about how that would distort that square, and tell her that's what she'll be doing to the image.
I think you'd be surprised how many people don't notice when an image is stretched/distorted or really just don't care. Not everyone looks at film as art.
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

You guys seem to keep missing the fact that leachim's talking about old 4x3 movies, not widescreen.
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

Originally Posted by collven
You guys seem to keep missing the fact that leachim's talking about old 4x3 movies, not widescreen.
Only a couple posts. Most are spot on.
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

It truly fascinates me how so many people spend so much time focusing on the dreaded “black bars.” (regardless of letterboxing or pillar-boxing) Why isn’t their attention focused on the actual movie?

Seriously, when I watch films on Blu-ray like The Dark Knight or Transformers 2 (the Wal-mart Exclusive “Big Screen” Edition) I rarely even notice the varying aspect ratio because I’m actually WATCHING THE MOVIE!
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

Originally Posted by collven
You guys seem to keep missing the fact that leachim's talking about old 4x3 movies, not widescreen.
Well, he mentioned Ben-Hur. Although, he didn't say what her reaction to 2.40:1 would be (actually she'll probably hate BH as it's like 2.76:1).

There seems to be more resistance to side bars. I guess it's because people have become so accustomed to letterboxing over the last decade, and they aren't used to pillarboxing. But, I imagine there are some who just like widescreen for its, well, wide-ness. Disney felt compelled to have the art panel feature to deal with this, but they don't offer such a feature for the 2.40:1 titles.

I'm still concerned about the comment that he spent a lot of money and bought them a BD player. Didn't he check here for deals?
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Re: My mom hates black bars; anything I can do?

It helps to watch in a darker room, they become less of a distration. Turn off the lights


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