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You guys keep harping on the magnum to the face thing. I guess my original post wasn't clear enough, but I used that point to illustrate his general attitude about not seeming to care about making a good film. There were a lot of points where he didn't seem to care to explain what was going on and would just same something to the effect of "whatever". But then he came off as upset when people didn't understand the dream sequence and the ending.

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But that's really the biggest one for me Eric. I mean, you can't assume she only grazed Myers face. Didn't blood splatter on her when it happened? Or was she just covered in blood so much it seemed that way? Can't remember right now. But as I said before... yes, this is being held to a more realistic standard because that's what Rob was trying to achieve with this film. The older movies were blatant cash grabs and typical horror fodder, I LOVE those kinds of films because they're fun as all hell, but that's not what Zombie was setting out to do here. Anyways, I do recommend this film, and if you want my full opinion on the film in general, read the Blu-ray review that's now posted. I think it's more than fair. Lot's of other plotholes exist, yes, but it's kind of hard to ignore being shot in the dome... and then living without even a scratch, ya know?

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Believe me man, I'm right there with you. I just wanted the guys who keep discounting the magnum shot to understand that I used it as an example to show Zombie's attitude while making the film. It wasn't the only thing that Zombie slacked off on.

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there is some precident in earlier films of michael being shot in the face and surving, Laurie shoots him twice in the eyes at the end of halloween II before loomis sets him on fire. but by that point its allready established by loomis that myers is not merely human. where as zombie in his commentary goes out of his way to say that his michael is not the shape or some evil entity, that his michael is a human being. so its kind of contradictary that he says michael is merely a human but yet he is able to survive bulletts to the face and what not.

on a side note anyone else find it funny that Dana Carvey who latter on would be playing opposite Mike Myers for many years (on SNL and in the two waynes world movies), first credited movie role was as a hospital worker who is a victim of Michael Myers in Halloween 2.

watching zombies H2 has made me want the real Halloween II on bluray that much more, would be nice to see universal release it this year and perhaps even include a nice little feature such as the alternate ending.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C9_HrNtWqU

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I thought Carvey played the assistant to the reporter outside Lynda and Annie's houses?

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lol your right i dont know why i was thinking it was a hospital worker.
still pretty kind of funny that his first movie role was in a michael myers movie, years before he worked with mike myers,

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Fine, but he also comes off on the commentary as very rushed. It sounds like the studio also didn't care what happened with the movie. It sounds like they just wanted the movie done and released on a certain date. So at the same time he may not have cared because he didn't have the time to care, he was just trying to meet a deadline. I don't know, that's kind of what I got.

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I've read quite a few accounts -- people who were on the set, even -- saying that very thing. Zombie had something like 3-6 weeks to write the script (varies depending on which account you read) and a month to shoot, and he just did whatever he could to get something in the can.

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You mean the Weinsteins cared more about money over quality? No! ;)

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Right. I think if he had had more time the movie would have been much better. When you're rushed like that you don't get the best quality. And unfortunately that is what happened here.

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I am just happy we dont have sit through a Rob Zombie Halloween III.
the next movie is one of those rare times i am hopeing they either reboot the franchise or pick back up after timeline of the original series of films.

I shudder to think what he is going to do now to The Blob though.

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I'm sure it involves rednecks lobbing out F-bombs.

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The Blob will end up being some 500 pound trailer park trash redneck.

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I just realized that both of Zombie's Halloween films are in different aspect ratios. Very interesting. The 1.85:1 frame actually works quite well for the second movie, while the 2.35:1 works quite well for the first movie.

I've re-watched Halloween II a few times, and even though it's not terrific, it does contain some interesting material, and it does get better after repeat viewings. I still enjoyed the first film more, but the second one has meat on it's bones as well.

Haven't seen it on Blu-ray yet, but the PQ on the DVD is surprisingly crisp.

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I don't know exactly why, but he may have shot the first one in 2.35:1 to pay homage to the original, since that was also presented in 2.35:1. I don't know though.

I completely agree. It is really beginning to grow on me. And I really hated it the first time.

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This to me is why I despise Resurrection more than anything, and why I will never hate any sequels as much resurrection. They had a perfect ending for both Michael (At least as far as the original mythology) and The Laurie finally getting her revenge. If they could have ended the original franchise like that, they can come out with as many remakes and sequels to those remakes as they'd like.

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I am currently watching Resurrection and I just saw that part. It makes somewhat sense in the movie because Michael is right behind him so he throws the spices in his eyes to blind him so he has a chance to grab the knives. Still stupid, I know, but it makes sense. :)