I think you got what I meant, but durr, typing mistake on my part, I meant when all televisions were easily connected to the internet, not computers. Most computers are already connected to the internet.

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/strong-b...-watchmen/6875

Watchmen had about 35% of the total from the DVD/BR sales. This goes to show that BR is taking over at a steady pace. Star Trek may be able to hit the 50/50 percent market, if not, some title next year (after the XMas BR sales) will hit the mark.

After that, it is only a matter of time until BR is truely the King of the Video Market.

A film like The Watchmen selling 35% Blu-ray in its first week shouldn't come as too much of a surprise.

Sci-fi/comic hero films fit the perfect demographic for Playstation/Blu-ray owners.

How did "He's Just Not That Into You" sell on Blu-ray?

Sorry, simply not true. at least not for me. There are only a handful of analog audio BR players out there. Quite a few of them ONLY have HMDI and maybe digital. My receiver, which is a 600 watts 5.1 fantastic unit, has neither. Unless I spend the xtra $ for an analog audio output, I CANNOT use BR. I believe the PS3 doesn't have this, which is why I did not buy it.

my receiver works fine and normally I would keep it for many more years.

So for me to 'get a piece here and there' I need to spend the higher cost of BR players to get that analog functionality.

If i wanted to get a new receiver, I would get one of the better ones which is not cheap.

Ironically, it is the complexity of the audio side that is preventing me from benefiting from the video.

There are a ton of analog BD players out there. A few 2.0 (BD390, S550). All under $300 Keep your old receiver and let the player internally decode DTS MA/TrueHD

All BD players have digital audio out, as well as 2.0 stereo audio out, in addition to HDMI.

You CAN use any Blu-ray player, you just won't get the full audio experience with some.

True, but getting a BD (not "BR") player with 5.1 analog out is still one piece of your overall system, and will cost a lot less than $1000. It's not like the ones with analog surround outputs are crazy expensive. Here's one for $250:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-BD-P25...dp/B001HBHLEY/

So you can still get one piece at a time if you want.

Jay, fair enough. My point was only that you have to be careful which model you buy.. not all BD players will work with my system. As I said, I don't have digital in, and I am certainly not going back to stereo inputs for Blu-Ray movies! So, yes, i would have to get a player like the one you mentioned for this to work for me.

But that's true of DVD players as well; many of them only have stereo analog out and digital out for audio, so you had to have been careful to buy a DVD player with 5.1 analog out.

I cannot fathom that there's a receiver out there that has only 5.1 analog inputs without either a Coaxial or Toslink optical S/PDIF digital input as well. S/PDIF was introduced to home audio long before the advent of discrete multi-channel audio.

The first 5.1 soundtracks on home video debuted on laserdisc in 1995. Clear & Present Danger was one of the earliest titles. For multi-channel music, SACD and DVD-Audio came later than that, in 1999 and 2000 respectively.

S/PDIF was standard on A/V receivers long before that.

VOD will replace BD.

You lie! It will never!

I'd have to look up the model number, but a HTIB I got as a graduation present a million years ago (closer to closer to ten than a million, but still...) had only stereo and 6-channel analog inputs -- no Toslink or coax. This is obviously not a recent piece of hardware, and I don't know how representative it is of anything still on the market, though.

I regularly see 3-4 year old receivers with coax and toslink on Craiglist for $50-75. Pick one up perhaps?

This may well be true, but if something like that can hardly be considered any part of a modern home theater where someone would be worried about audio quality.

As pointed out, a low-end reciever with toslink or coax can be had for less than $100. While this unit would not give the user the benefits of the new audio codecs, it would still be better than any unit that does NOT have "modern" digital connections like toslink/coax.

I think it is safe to say that any reciever purchased in the 5 years or so has some type of digital port. This is hardly a stumbling block to adopting BD.

Especially when just about every player in the market now internally decodes both HD formats. If you need analog pick up one of the many players that do that. Sure, it may run you an extra $50-$100 (depending on the model, like the S550/BD390) but the option is available.

If that's directed at me, I'm on my third receiver since that HTiB.

(That old one is a Panasonic SA-AK57, by the way.)

Oh, I'm definitely not arguing otherwise. Just sayin' that hardware like that does exist, improbably as it may seem.

Gotcha. I doubt that anyone that would pay extra care to audio quality would have one though. I get what you are saying though.

Yup, I'm one of these! I was a very early adopter. How early- does the phrase "dolby digital ready" ring a bell?

But my receiver has been great and has served me well for - has it really been 12 years??? Egads!!

I think I got my 1st DVD player in '97.

The point remains that there ARE models of BD players that have 5.1 analogs. While they may be a bit more expensive, they do exist.

This is no more an issue than it was/is for DVD.