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milkdog 06-16-09 04:12 PM

re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 
Hell yes about Pierrot le fou!

PopcornTreeCt 06-16-09 04:24 PM

re: The Criterion Collection 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread
 

Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 9507470)
I imagine Royal and Life Aquatic were decent sellers because of how they were advertised and sold in stores yet no BD? Not even a hint of them coming in the future?

There's not even a hint of hundreds of Criterions on Blu-ray. I'm sure it will get a release, eventually.

Drexl 06-16-09 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by theWitcher (Post 9508095)
While I'm sure that Blu-ray can provide somewhat better resolution and improved color reproduction of its 16mm origins than the pretty good SD DVD, I'm wondering if the audio specs are going to be updated for 'Monterey Pop.' I guess they can up the bitrates...

Of course. They'll use lossless audio instead of the lossy audio on DVD.

bluetoast 06-23-09 12:10 PM

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Last Year at Marienbad arrived today. First of all, it comes in the same awful packaging that plagued the first few Criterion BDs. What's going on, I though this was a universal switch to the clear cases?

Second....I can't even get it out of the damn slipcover. I've had some tight slipcovers before, but this takes the cake. I'm looking in over the top, and I can see the case is stuffed, with a thick booklet. This is bullshit.

Doctorossi 06-23-09 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 9520126)
What's going on, I though this was a universal switch to the clear cases?

It was. Marienbad was just a victim of production-queue bounce.


Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 9520126)
This is bullshit.

Hey, at least you've got a beautiful copy of a great movie. :shrug:

bluetoast 06-23-09 12:38 PM

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I'd love to watch it, but...I cant..even access it! :brickwl:

Where are my pliers?

theWitcher 06-23-09 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 9508341)
Of course. They'll use lossless audio instead of the lossy audio on DVD.

I wonder if and when they'll update the specs on their website. It seems like lossless sound would be the main selling point for this particular release (and a lossless stereo track would be preferable to including both TrueHD and DTS-MA tracks. Are there any set-ups that can play DTS-MA and cannot play TrueHD?)

Another selling point would be HD (or at least decent SD quality) versions of the Outtake Performances, but I know that won't happen.

ThriceDamned 06-24-09 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by theWitcher (Post 9508095)
While I'm sure that Blu-ray can provide somewhat better resolution and improved color reproduction of its 16mm origins than the pretty good SD DVD...

Owning "Pride & Prejudice" (1995) on BD, I can tell you that 16mm can look absolutely spectacular in HD if done right.

cartman 06-24-09 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 9520126)
Last Year at Marienbad arrived today. First of all, it comes in the same awful packaging that plagued the first few Criterion BDs. What's going on, I though this was a universal switch to the clear cases?

Second....I can't even get it out of the damn slipcover. I've had some tight slipcovers before, but this takes the cake. I'm looking in over the top, and I can see the case is stuffed, with a thick booklet. This is bullshit.

I have the same problem. I cannot get the damn slipcase off. I've already crumpled it a bit trying and I think I'm going to have to just tear it off, ruining the case, to get it out.

bluetoast 06-25-09 01:54 AM

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I ended up reaching in and taking the booklet out first, then the slipcover. Pretty ridiculous.

Doctorossi 06-26-09 12:46 AM

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Man, you guys ain't kiddin'! Thanks for the tip on the booklet- that (finally) did the trick. May this be the last of these cardboard-sleeve victims.

kefrank 06-26-09 04:24 PM

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YMMV, but...

My buddy e-mailed his complaint about the tight packaging to Criterion. The response he got back was that they're aware that the packaging was too tight on the first run due to an error at the packaging facility that has since been corrected. They offered to send him one of the extra slipcases they had at the production offices that would fit better.

Drexl 06-26-09 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theWitcher (Post 9520240)
I wonder if and when they'll update the specs on their website. It seems like lossless sound would be the main selling point for this particular release (and a lossless stereo track would be preferable to including both TrueHD and DTS-MA tracks. Are there any set-ups that can play DTS-MA and cannot play TrueHD?)

Hmmm, they have Dolby Digital and DTS listed, but I can't imagine it won't be lossless on the BD, probably with just DTS-HD MA. Some other titles like Chungking Express don't have lossless listed on their site, so I think sometimes they just have the DVD's info. They used 2.0 DTS-HD MA for The Last Emperor, so it's certainly possible they could include a stereo track in that format.

bluetoast 06-26-09 06:01 PM

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Thanks kefrank, I emailed Jon Mulvaney about it.

NoirFan 06-29-09 06:24 PM

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DVD Beaver comparison of For All Mankind

PopcornTreeCt 06-29-09 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 9533881)
DVD Beaver comparison of For All Mankind

I'm probably the only one, but the original transfer looks better to me.

Richard Malloy 06-30-09 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 9528856)
YMMV, but...

My buddy e-mailed his complaint about the tight packaging to Criterion. The response he got back was that they're aware that the packaging was too tight on the first run due to an error at the packaging facility that has since been corrected. They offered to send him one of the extra slipcases they had at the production offices that would fit better.

There was a similar sizing issue with the first run of the (amazing) Rohmer boxset, and so I sent the email.

Received four resized boxes over the course of the next several weeks!

And then I decided I preferred the tighter packaging...

Dan 06-30-09 09:12 PM

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Just wanted to chime in and say that I love the packaging for The Seventh Seal. All standard Blu-ray releases should be in these cases.

bluetoast 07-01-09 01:44 PM

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Just got the new slipcover in the mail. Fits like a glove now.

HistoryProf 07-01-09 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 9534378)
I'm probably the only one, but the original transfer looks better to me.

No you're not. frankly, i don't understand at all why they chose FAM for blu-ray given the hundreds of choices that would benefit more from the upgrade. the very nature of the film using all the old footage makes any possible improvement minimal. It's a wonderful film, but it's at the bottom of Criterion's that should get the blu treatment imo.

pro-bassoonist 07-01-09 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brizz (Post 9539303)
No you're not. frankly, i don't understand at all why they chose FAM for blu-ray given the hundreds of choices that would benefit more from the upgrade. the very nature of the film using all the old footage makes any possible improvement minimal.

Because this year marks the 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 mission, perhaps the greatest event from America's recent history!

This being said, looking at screencaptures only would not reveal to you the type of improvement(s) the Blu-ray release offers. The new transfer is notably stronger, more stable and with a dramatically improved grain-scheme. Even on mid-size screens - 50' to 55' inch - the upgrades are very easy to detect. On larger screens - 102' and up - the upgrades are impressive.

Pro-B

NoirFan 07-04-09 12:11 PM

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Pro-B's review of For All Mankind from Blu-ray.com

HistoryProf 07-04-09 12:29 PM

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50-55 inches is a "mid-size" screen now?!??!! rotfl

NoirFan 07-04-09 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brizz (Post 9544387)
50-55 inches is a "mid-size" screen now?!??!! rotfl

I know. I remember when one of my friends purchased a "massive" 32-inch screen, and we were all in awe.

DthRdrX 07-04-09 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by brizz (Post 9544387)
50-55 inches is a "mid-size" screen now?!??!! rotfl

Honestly, it is!

Can't beat a 100+ inch screen. :)


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