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obidawsn 06-10-09 06:36 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz
 

Originally Posted by dx23 (Post 9496663)

I was thinking the same thing, but I think it would be nice for each film to get their own separate thread. Now that there's an official announcement, I think it's a good of time as any for that to happen.

slimdude 06-10-09 07:05 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz
 

Originally Posted by Joe Molotov (Post 9496600)
Great news, but ugh, I hate WB's "Ultimate Collector's Editions". It's not like Blu-Ray owners don't get gouged enough on prices, but they have to drive the knife in a little deeper by forcing super-duper collectible boxes on us. Just give me a regular edition.

Consumers who'll purchase Collectible Editions Blu-rays is only by personal preference. Manufacturers are not coercing the consumers to buy them, which is the reason why the regular edition will also be released.

dx23 06-10-09 07:36 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz
 

Originally Posted by obidawsn (Post 9496674)
I was thinking the same thing, but I think it would be nice for each film to get their own separate thread. Now that there's an official announcement, I think it's a good of time as any for that to happen.

They were separate at first but the mods here decided to merge them together.

kevin75 06-10-09 09:38 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz
 

Originally Posted by slimdude (Post 9496694)
Consumers who'll purchase Collectible Editions Blu-rays is only by personal preference. Manufacturers are not coercing the consumers to buy them, which is the reason why the regular edition will also be released.

While yes, techinically manufacturers aren't forcing people to but the fancy collectible editions, in reality when it comes to movies like Casablanca that's been out for 7 months with no stand alone version in sight, if you want it on BR, then yes, they are forcing you to buy all of the other crap as well. While I love all three of these movies, Warners can go screw themselves, I'm not paying that much money for all of that other junk that I don't care about. I'll either wait for the standalone versions or until a REALLY good price hits.

Giles 06-10-09 09:58 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
even though "theatrical rereleasing" is a thing of the past, I wish Warner's would release these on the big screen (prior to the bluray releases) in actual 4K resolution and projected as such at theatre's with Sony 4K Digital Projectors.

obidawsn 06-10-09 11:27 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 

Originally Posted by slimdude (Post 9496694)
Consumers who'll purchase Collectible Editions Blu-rays is only by personal preference. Manufacturers are not coercing the consumers to buy them, which is the reason why the regular edition will also be released.

I agree Joe and kevin. If we want the movie on Blu-ray, then we are being forced to buy the collector's set. Granted, we can decide to wait and hope that they will come out with a regular edition, but who knows how long that will be...if ever? They're putting these out there without a regular edition to get a little extra money from us knowing people will buy it because they want the movie when it comes out. My wife had to watch Casablanca for a project in one of her classes, and even though we have the DVD, I really wanted to see it on blu-ray, so we came close to spending the $41 that Amazon wanted because you can't get a regular version of it. We eventually kept putting it off until it was too late to get it in time, so we watched the DVD instead (luckily we did, as I then bought the HD DVD cheap and got in on the Red2Blu program, if it ever comes in).


Originally Posted by dx23 (Post 9496720)
They were separate at first but the mods here decided to merge them together.

But why merge them? Just because they are from the same studio? I only kind of understand it since they were both general rumors about WB releases that came out about the same time. But this is an official announcement, thus not making it a rumor, anymore. There should be separate threads for each title as the official announcements come in. Because even though I may be interested in both movies, someone else may not be, so why should they have to read through a bunch of posts about Gone with the Wind when they want to read about Wizard of Oz? I'm not trying to argue, just bringing up a valid point.


Originally Posted by Giles (Post 9496961)
even though "theatrical rereleasing" is a thing of the past, I wish Warner's would release these on the big screen (prior to the bluray releases) in actual 4K resolution and projected as such at theatre's with Sony 4K Digital Projectors.

I remember seeing Gone with the Wind when it was re-released in 1998. It was nice to see it on the big screen. I missed out on the re-release of The Wizard of Oz, though :(. A girl I worked with wanted to go, so we were making plans to go and they never worked out. I would have loved to see that on the big screen. As for a digital projection of it, I doubt that will ever happen (at least for a long time), since digital theaters are very limited and can barely schedule all the 3D releases. I was pretty upset when I wanted to see Star Trek on a digital screen and they didn't have any matinees of it because they had Monsters vs. Aliens in 3D during the matinee times. I hate paying full price for a movie, so I gave in to the non-digital version. (Though before I walked into the theater my mom called me because a tornado had just went by where they live. So I got rainchecks so I could get home where they were babysitting our son and they could go check on their house. Luckily everything was OK with their house and I got to use the rainchecks for an evening showing of the digital screening.)

WMAangel 06-10-09 11:29 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz
 

Originally Posted by slimdude (Post 9496694)
Consumers who'll purchase Collectible Editions Blu-rays is only by personal preference. Manufacturers are not coercing the consumers to buy them, which is the reason why the regular edition will also be released.

There IS NO "regular edition" being released....Warner has you by the short hairs: either buy the overpriced & oversized super deluxe box with extra junk a lot of people don't want or no high def Oz for you....

Look, I'd be willing to pay $30 for a nice 2-disc Blu-ray of Oz (in a regular size double disc Blu case) to make the wife happy....but there is no way I am paying double that for some giant packaging and extraneous useless bullshit! Warner is basically just walking away from what I am sure would be PILES of cash by only offering one overpriced option that I am willing to bet a lot of people will not purchase for the same reasons I have stated....

What's even crazier is that they are giving an option for standard DVD purchasers....way to try and push the new format there! :down:

Jaymole 06-10-09 11:52 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
Another poor marketing decision by Warner, which is starting to become the norm rather than the exception lately....very sad.

Giles 06-10-09 12:31 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 

Originally Posted by obidawsn (Post 9497178)
I agree Joe and kevin. If we want the movie on Blu-ray, then we are being forced to buy the collector's set. Granted, we can decide to wait and hope that they will come out with a regular edition, but who knows how long that will be...if ever? They're putting these out there without a regular edition to get a little extra money from us knowing people will buy it because they want the movie when it comes out. My wife had to watch Casablanca for a project in one of her classes, and even though we have the DVD, I really wanted to see it on blu-ray, so we came close to spending the $41 that Amazon wanted because you can't get a regular version of it. We eventually kept putting it off until it was too late to get it in time, so we watched the DVD instead (luckily we did, as I then bought the HD DVD cheap and got in on the Red2Blu program, if it ever comes in).


But why merge them? Just because they are from the same studio? I only kind of understand it since they were both general rumors about WB releases that came out about the same time. But this is an official announcement, thus not making it a rumor, anymore. There should be separate threads for each title as the official announcements come in. Because even though I may be interested in both movies, someone else may not be, so why should they have to read through a bunch of posts about Gone with the Wind when they want to read about Wizard of Oz? I'm not trying to argue, just bringing up a valid point.



I remember seeing Gone with the Wind when it was re-released in 1998. It was nice to see it on the big screen. I missed out on the re-release of The Wizard of Oz, though :(. A girl I worked with wanted to go, so we were making plans to go and they never worked out. I would have loved to see that on the big screen. As for a digital projection of it, I doubt that will ever happen (at least for a long time), since digital theaters are very limited and can barely schedule all the 3D releases. I was pretty upset when I wanted to see Star Trek on a digital screen and they didn't have any matinees of it because they had Monsters vs. Aliens in 3D during the matinee times. I hate paying full price for a movie, so I gave in to the non-digital version. (Though before I walked into the theater my mom called me because a tornado had just went by where they live. So I got rainchecks so I could get home where they were babysitting our son and they could go check on their house. Luckily everything was OK with their house and I got to use the rainchecks for an evening showing of the digital screening.)

phew! that'd rattle me, glad they were okay.

As for the planned digital conversion, both AMC and Regal have just announced and committed to the implementation of Sony 4K digital projectors throughout their entire chains and theatres nationally - alternate programming is key [i.e, Fathom events, Sony's Big Ticket] releasing all these 4K video transfers to a one-night event would be a more than ideal way for moviegoers to experience these films on the big screen. Warner's showed 'Blade Runner' in 4K at the Landmark (LA), Sony's presented the 4K restoration of 'Dr. Strangelove' also at the Landmark, why can't Warner's make such presentations more readily to theatres like the Landmark that have 4K DP systems. [would I want to buy the film on bluray?, yeah. Would I want to see the 4K restoration on a huge 50 foot screen? - hell, yeah]

GenPion 06-10-09 12:40 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
Let's face it. Warner Bros. just doesn't want to make any money on this Blu-ray release. That's clearly the case, as most of us won't buy it at such a ridiculous price.

Mr. Cinema 06-10-09 12:42 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
I think if catalog titles were selling really well, we'd have a standalone movie-only option. But since they're not, they're going to try and get as much as they can from those who will buy this regardless of price.

dx23 06-10-09 12:54 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 

Originally Posted by obidawsn (Post 9497178)



But why merge them? Just because they are from the same studio? I only kind of understand it since they were both general rumors about WB releases that came out about the same time. But this is an official announcement, thus not making it a rumor, anymore. There should be separate threads for each title as the official announcements come in. Because even though I may be interested in both movies, someone else may not be, so why should they have to read through a bunch of posts about Gone with the Wind when they want to read about Wizard of Oz? I'm not trying to argue, just bringing up a valid point.

I agree, but this was a mod decision.

GenPion 06-10-09 01:18 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 

Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 9497391)
I think if catalog titles were selling really well, we'd have a standalone movie-only option. But since they're not, they're going to try and get as much as they can from those who will buy this regardless of price.

No doubt. Unfortunately, they don't seem to realize that this is exactly the kind of title that needs a semi-affordable release for people to see this in stores and decide "I guess it's time I buy a Blu-ray player!". This is the kind of movie that will help sell the format to a wider variety of consumers.

Joe Molotov 06-10-09 03:47 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 

Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 9497391)
I think if catalog titles were selling really well, we'd have a standalone movie-only option. But since they're not, they're going to try and get as much as they can from those who will buy this regardless of price.

If catalog titles were priced better, wouldn't they also sell better? I mean, I went into Best Buy yesterday and you've got Gran Torino and The International selling for $25.99, then you've got a minor catalog title with no promotion or fanfare like Predator 2 marked at $29.99, and then you've got a major catalog release like Woodstock marked at $49.99. Forget "Joe 6-Pack", even HD enthusiasts have a hard time plonking down that much money.

WMAangel 06-10-09 11:48 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 

Originally Posted by Joe Molotov (Post 9497866)
If catalog titles were priced better, wouldn't they also sell better?

BINGO! We have a winner folks.....

Look at recent catalog reissues for Terminator 2 (which is actually a Blu double dip!) and Ghostbusters....these are available for $14.99 and have been in the top sellers at Amazon, not to mention reports of empty store shelves at BB for T2 on release day, even when that one was at $19.99....
What about A Bug's Life? Many people passed on it at $27.99, but then went racing to their local Toys R Us when they quietly put it on sale for only $19.99....
Catalog prices should be $20 maximum to entice consumers to upgrade if it is a straight port/carry over from the previous SE DVD....they could maybe justify a little more like $25 if they made an all new SE with a bunch of new features....I'm sorry, even though the new Oz Blu probably will look better than the previous DVD I have, it doesn't look $60 better!

NoirFan 06-11-09 12:15 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
Bah, first Casablanca, then Woodstock, and now these. WB are really starting to irk me by forcing us to shell out cash in a recession for these overpriced, trinket-laden sets. It's a really tacky way to operate, from a studio who had been among the classiest in the business.

TheJoker 06-11-09 12:15 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
I would love to just get an edition with all bonus features but without the book and the watch and those so called "collectibles".

Seeing as I have a $20 rewardzone card and a $20 giftcard though, I think I will justify my purchase from Bestbuy on this release.

JackBurton 06-11-09 06:55 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
As much as it pains me, I won't be picking up either of these (nor Casablanca) on Blu until they are released in regular editions - or if the price comes down drastically (even then, I'm not crazy about getting a big box of crap)

atlantamoi 06-12-09 02:40 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 

Originally Posted by JackBurton (Post 9498770)
As much as it pains me, I won't be picking up either of these (nor Casablanca) on Blu until they are released in regular editions - or if the price comes down drastically (even then, I'm not crazy about getting a big box of crap)

Ditto. What a disappointment. I'm not the kind of person who cares about steelbook or figurines. I want a good looking movie in a regular box at a $15 or lower price. I realize Oz could command a little more, but I'm just not going to be a consumer of $50+ no matter how much I like it.

truelies 06-12-09 09:04 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz 70th Anniversary Edition coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 200
 
Ditto


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 9240395)
No - I don't care about postcards, keychains, mini Ruby slippers etc. Just give me the movie in a BD case or DigiBook and I'll be happy.


jiggyblau 06-12-09 12:14 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
I had placed an order for these two and just canceled it. In the comments box, I told Amazon to tell Warner that these releases are ridiculous.

RobLutter 06-12-09 01:05 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
Hopefully they'll also get a disc-only release in the UK so I can import them over without all the junk. I think this has happened with everything minus Casablanca thus far.

critterdvd 06-14-09 11:11 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
These prices are insanity. I would happily spend $30 on "Wizard of Oz," "Gone with the Wind," or "Casablanca" but I don't really need to spend $60 to get the movie in a huge ass box with a bunch of trinkets I'll never touch...

Overpar 06-18-09 08:42 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
Okay, usually not a big fan of these deluxe releases with all the crap, but I'm kinda diggin this. (except for the watch) Still too expensive, though.

http://www.dvdactive.com/images/news...0thartpic5.jpg

InstantKarma 06-18-09 05:26 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
To anybody who doesn't even want the gift set can still get the 2 disc edition regular disc but yeah, it really sucks to get the gift set if you want the Blu-Ray but I am a big fan of the Wizard of Oz so I will get the Blu-Ray version anyway

Drexl 06-18-09 05:30 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 

Originally Posted by InstantKarma (Post 9512158)
To anybody who doesn't even want the gift set can still get the 2 disc edition regular disc but yeah, it really sucks to get the gift set if you want the Blu-Ray but I am a big fan of the Wizard of Oz so I will get the Blu-Ray version anyway

Well, I don't think the new DVD would be that much improved over the 2005 version I already have.

Besides, Blu-ray is "regular" now. :)

TheJoker 06-18-09 07:06 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 

Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 9512167)
Well, I don't think the new DVD would be that much improved over the 2005 version I already have.

Besides, Blu-ray is "regular" now. :)

If they are using the new print transfer that is being placed on the blu-ray, then there may be some improvement.

NoirFan 06-19-09 10:04 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 

Originally Posted by Overpar (Post 9510792)
Okay, usually not a big fan of these deluxe releases with all the crap, but I'm kinda diggin this. (except for the watch) Still too expensive, though.

Your posted photo is just the DVD Active banner. Here's the link to the actual cover art.

NoirFan 07-21-09 11:16 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
Wizard of Oz has been moved forward to 9/29.

TheJoker 07-21-09 11:25 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
So blu-ray people are getting the full 6 hour MGM Documentary! Im glad I preordered this set. The extras are well worth it (at least to me)

pinata242 08-12-09 12:16 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
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JimRochester 08-12-09 05:21 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
These are both movies I'd love to have in my collection but I have no interest in these monstrosities. Just give me the movie with a couple interesting extras for $29.99 and I'd be happy.

No widescreen = no sale

J/K ;)

BuckNaked2k 08-12-09 06:42 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 

Originally Posted by JimRochester (Post 9639821)
These are both movies I'd love to have in my collection but I have no interest in these monstrosities. Just give me the movie with a couple interesting extras for $29.99 and I'd be happy.

+1

I don't want/need all that extra junk. Space is limited and a standard 2-discer would have sufficed.

The Monkees 08-12-09 07:01 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
I can see why people are upset over the gift set being the only way to get them, but I am looking forward to getting these sets. Both films are some of my favorite movies.

Inhumans99 08-13-09 08:56 AM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
I never did receive an order confirmation from Warner's for the LOTR trilogy, Gone With The Wind, and The Wizard Of Oz blu rays purchased during that great sale they had a few months back (buy two get one free, and stacked with a 25% off coupon, I believe). Should give them a call and find out what's up.

The Monkees 08-13-09 03:03 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
I'm still a bit confused, GWTW is going to be identical to the 4 disc?

Is this also the case with Wizard of Oz? Is it identical to the 3 disc?

Steve Phillips 08-13-09 03:29 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
You can get the UK version for $25.00 on Amazon UK in regular packaging. Not sure if the extras will be PAL though.

Giles 08-13-09 09:14 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
and Fathom will be projecting this in HiDef as a One-Night event on September 23rd to 440 theatres nationwide:

The Wizard of Oz 70th Anniversary

TheJoker 08-28-09 06:10 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
Looks like Bestbuy has their own exclusives.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....p=1&id=2015558

Looks to be just extra postcards as well, like Amazons

doctorthodt 08-28-09 06:23 PM

Re: Wizard of Oz / Gone with the Wind coming to Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of 2009
 
WB will inevitably release these in a regular keepcase like they're doing with Casablanca. I'll wait til then to give them my money.


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